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#3100885 - 12/29/12 11:20 PM .17 HMR or .22 Mag
Crow Terminator
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I've been looking at these for a while now. Can't seem to make my mind up. Looking for a small game/small varmint gun in rimfire....but hotter than a 22 LR. A .17 seems like it would be fun...close in ballistic numbers to the old 5 mm Rem Mag...and from what I'm seeing in stores, comes in a few more stock and barrel configurations than the 22 Mag. But...heaviest bullets I've seen are just 20 grains and seems like if the wind was anything above dead calm, that it would be a hard round to stay on course. Per 50 rnd box they are about the same as a 22 Mag...only for now, you can find them in stores fairly easy.

Then there's the 22 Mag. Been around a while...comes in about 30-50 grain bullets...heavier but slower than the 17...BUT if the 17 were offered in heavier bullets, velocity would be about the same. Heavier bullet = steadier in wind and longer ranges. Which is a big plus for what I want to do. Problem seems to be...seems to be very limited in what new firearms are out there, and all I've found are in standard barrels and have cheap stocks. 22 Mag ammo seems to be getting scarce too.

Any suggestions? Looking to spend between $220-280. Not over $300. I found some nice Savage 17s but they were varmint barrels with thumbhole laminated stocks...price was $319. Also looked at a CZ 455 in 17 that was $395...way out of my price range. The Savage wasn't bad heavy with target barrel but I didn't like the thumbhole stock....or $319 lol

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#3100891 - 12/29/12 11:37 PM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: Crow Terminator]
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No experience with the 22 mag but I have a savage 17hmr with the bull barrel and its a tack driver and lethal on squirrels that try to take up residence in my roof. The 17-grain v-max puts a hole the size of a quarter so if you want to eat them that's the wrong bullet unless you shoot them in the head. Never shot it at long ranges though but would assume it could tend to float in windy conditions.
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#3100944 - 12/30/12 04:06 AM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: Gravey]
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Its not to bad in the wind,I have both ,the 22mag gets the nod most of the time , it is a marlin 882ssv ,my 17 is a nef single shot that is just plain accurate to 150 at least.Faster followup shots is my only reason for toting the mag
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#3100960 - 12/30/12 05:23 AM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: mike243]
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Bouth of them will be head shots only. I had a 17 got ride of it now I have a mag and like it better. I realy can't say why. I have no trouble finding ammo for it.
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#3100985 - 12/30/12 06:11 AM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: KPH]
stik
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i wanted one of those 17hmr's until i shot one. already had a 22mag and it's twice the gun. my 22wmr is the best shooting rifle i own.
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#3101071 - 12/30/12 07:45 AM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: stik]
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Of the two i would definitely go with the 22mag. The 17hmr is a fast fun round but doesn't have the punch to consistently anchor coyotes imo. And a centerfire is better than a 22 mag for coyotes as well. I recently bought a Marlin XT22M which is a basic clip fed bolt action repeater that comes with 4 round and 7 round magazines. It is a nice little rifle for $238 out the door from Sportsman Whse. I bought it to use for coyotes during the times/seasons that a center fire is not legal. Several models of this rifle are offered with mine being the most basic. CAUTION-make sure you check for front sight cant as mine had this and it took two trips back to Remington-Ilion before they finally replaced the whole rifle. The new one has square mounted sights thankfully. I will be scoping it anyway but I wanted it to have functional iron sights too. Fit and finish are good, functioning is good, and it has an adult size wood stock. The comb is too high for irons but is usable. Nice rifle but be sure the front sight is not mounted off center-and a little bit off is very bad.
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#3101079 - 12/30/12 07:54 AM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: Plateau Hunter]
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I have no experience with a 22mag,but have the marlin 17hmr,and I can knock empty 12ga hulls down at 150yds all day long,just about every shot with it.Very accurate.I only shoot the 20gr XTP bullet out of it,it designed for controlled expansion.My uncle shot a coyote with it on his farm at 75 yds,shoulder shot it.It ran probably 50 to 75yds and died.But I wouldn't expect the 17hmr to bang flop a coyote outside of a head shot.
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#3101414 - 12/30/12 12:51 PM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: cecil30-30]
Crow Terminator
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I don't have any plans for letting fly at Yotes with it. I've got other calibers for that sort of thing. I was thinking more like crows on the ground and the biggest animal being a skunk or groundhog for the .17 or .22 Mag.

So far you guys are in the vast majority for the .22 Mag. I will have one of the two by the end of this week.

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#3101446 - 12/30/12 01:10 PM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: Crow Terminator]
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If your wanting something for Groundhogs and smaller it would be hard to beat the .17hmr. Plus its just plain fun to head shoot squirrels at 100+ yards!
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#3101558 - 12/30/12 03:17 PM Re: .17 HMR or .22 Mag [Re: Hardwoodmaterials]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: Hardwoodmaterials
If your wanting something for Groundhogs and smaller it would be hard to beat the .17hmr. Plus its just plain fun to head shoot squirrels at 100+ yards!


22 mag will do that. one other thing, 17hmr ammo is plentiful right now. it's the only thing left on the rimfire shelf.
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