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#3098879 - 12/28/12 10:59 AM Parker bullets?
scn
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Due to a very tight barrel issue with a Savage MLII, I'm looking for an easier to load alternative than the Barnes Originals/orange MMP sabot that I have been using. I love the way that combo shoots in the rifle, and love the terminal performance. But, I don't like wondering every time I try to start it whether or not it is going down the barrel.

I have received a suggestion of the .451 Parker bullets in either 275 or 300 gr. as a place to start for an easier to load alternative.

Has anybody on here shot the Parker bullets and do you have any experience on how they work on deer?
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#3099404 - 12/28/12 06:49 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: scn]
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Have you tried the BCR with the BOs? They load easier for sure in my .50s. You may also want to run JB bore paste for 50 strokes to clean things up. This always decreases loading resistance.Now if you are still set on trying Parkers realize that they are a thin skinned bullet and will not even come close to holding up like the BOs will. What powder and quantity are using to launch the Bos? This can make a big difference especially if its 5744 as it is a real dirty powder and a real #$%^&* to load on a cold winter day on a fouled bore.There are several threads on Parker bullets over at Dougs for you to read.
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#3099581 - 12/28/12 08:42 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: Tar12]
scn
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Thank you.

I am using 44gr of 5744 with the BO. They group well out of that rifle, but are terrible to load.

Where is a good source for the JB Bore paste? I will certainly try that out.

Does BCR=Harvester Black Crushed Rib?

Thanks for the heads up on the Parkers. Since most of my ML hunting the past few years has been for midwestern deer, I'm not really interested in a bullet that won't hold up on a 250# deer. I'll head over to Doug's and check out some of that info.

Thanks!
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#3099764 - 12/28/12 11:38 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: scn]
ratsnakeboogy
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BCR is the harvester black crush rib.

The JBs I ordered from midway last time I got some.

I had to use 100 strokes on one rifle, but it smoothed everything out and reduced loading pressure.

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#3099789 - 12/29/12 02:26 AM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: ratsnakeboogy]
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I am running the BO with BCR combo. It loads snug but not hard. Way back when I was shooting the same as you, 43gr 5744 but to me it just seemed dirty. No where near as bad as BP or BP subs but still dirty. Switched to SR4759 and R7 and much cleaner and picked up some speed to boot.

You may want to look hard at the Master Hunter in 325gr. They are Parkers and from what I've heard they are devastating and great long range bullet.

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#3100055 - 12/29/12 11:30 AM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: tasaman]
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Thanks!
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#3108535 - 01/03/13 10:38 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: scn]
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 Originally Posted By: scn
Due to a very tight barrel issue with a Savage MLII, I'm looking for an easier to load alternative than the Barnes Originals/orange MMP sabot that I have been using. . . . . . .

Steve,

I haven't tried those Parkers, but have found these Scorpion PT Gold to be an easy loading bullet in my Savage, and using the black crushed rib sabot. These bullets are made by the same company (Harvester) that makes the crushed rib sabots. They recommend the .300 gr version with the black crushed rib for the Savage.

Considering how many swear by the Harvester crushed rib sabots, I'm really surprised more hunters haven't tried these bullets made by the same company. This was my first hunting season with them, and I've only fired one at a deer, which was neck shot at 35 yards. Of course, complete pass-thru, and deer dropped dead in tracks. I plan to do more extensive range testing with them (possibly doing like you in changing powders) before next deer season.

http://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/in...cchk=1&Itemid=3

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#3109983 - 01/04/13 11:13 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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The BCR's are tougher to load than the orange mmp's and a cleaner powder would help to. Any of the .452 or .451's will be easier to load than the .458's you just have to buy new sabots to go with them
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#3111173 - 01/05/13 11:05 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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IIRC those Scorpions are a plated bullet. I may be wrong. Also, they are .451 so they do load easier. Some get them to shoot really well especially those with super tight barrels. I just wouldn't push these very fast is all I can recommend. I would keep them around 2000 fps.
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#3136185 - 01/23/13 03:07 PM Re: Parker bullets? [Re: tasaman]
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62 grains v120, BCRS, 300 Grain Barnes Orifginal = Dead right there
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