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#3096199 - 12/26/12 01:45 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: Dale3]
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On a side note, if federal funding for armed security at schools were the only obstacle, it could be resolved by diverting federal funds from the 3000 daily abortions that the federal government says is OK. School kids would be safer and 3000 murders a day would be stopped.
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#3096203 - 12/26/12 01:47 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: W C]
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so true
 Originally Posted By: W C
On a side note, if federal funding for armed security at schools were the only obstacle, it could be resolved by diverting federal funds from the 3000 daily abortions that the federal government says is OK. School kids would be safer and 3000 murders a day would be stopped.

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#3096204 - 12/26/12 01:48 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: W C]
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but wait ,they can;t do this it makes to much sense
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#3096206 - 12/26/12 01:50 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: TX300mag]
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 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
"I call on Congress today to act immediately, to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school — and to do it now, to make sure that blanket of safety is in place when our children return to school in January.

Before Congress reconvenes, before we engage in any lengthy debate over legislation, regulation or anything else, as soon as our kids return to school after the holiday break, we need to have every single school in America immediately deploy a protection program proven to work —and by that I mean armed securi
ty."

Dale3, are we talking about the same NRA? This is from Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association. Is it possible you were reading from someone else?


If you would bother to read the WHOLE thing, he introduces Asa Hutchinson, who heading up the plan and explains THE PLAN.
Go to the link above, thanks to Tow i beleave who posted it on here as a thread.
Here it is AGAIN, make it easy for you....
http://home.nra.org/pdf/Transcript_PDF.pdf

ALSO what your quoating from Wayne LaPierre and YOU ARE misinterpreting,misunderstanding, whatever.. is he called on Congress to do that right now as a safety blanket, to be in place when the kids returned to school after the holidays, UNTIL this NRA plan could be put in place.It was TEMPORARY immediate action what he was asking Congress to do!
IF that makes me and the NRA a sell out, compromiser, then so be it!



Edited by Dale3 (12/26/12 02:31 PM)

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#3096249 - 12/26/12 02:28 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: Wildcat]
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#3096270 - 12/26/12 02:43 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: TX300mag]
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 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
As Wildcat clearly pointed out, this is TSA all over again. And the Republicans are following in line all over again. I'm surprised anybody's surprised!

This would be a MASSIVE expanse of federal government and another HUGE sign of how we aren't free. At first one might suppose the GOP (and party sheep) are cheering this because the NRA proposed it, but in all actuality it's what the GOP wants: massive government expansion.

Dale3, a bad idea is a bad idea, even if it's proposed by the NRA and supported by the GOP.

Except Wildcat's comment appears to endorse a TSA-type approach to the problem: "How many airplanes have been flow into buildings since TSA was put in in airports?" The same number that were flown into buildings before TSA - zero.

TSA is nothing more than window dressing and airport security is no better than it was before the attacks. For someone to use TSA as a measure of success defies belief.

The solution is to put guns into the schools, but in the hands of the people who work there or volunteers who can become a de facto security force. Little or no money involved, and the benefits are instant and effective.

As has been pointed out by many others before, teachers in Israeli schools are armed - in a country where the enemy is taught to hate Jews from birth and brainwashed into believing martyrdom is to be desired. Yet, school attacks in Israel are virtually if not totally nonexistent.


Edited by BMan (12/26/12 03:00 PM)
Edit Reason: Changed endorses to "appears to endorse"
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#3096278 - 12/26/12 02:47 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: BMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BMan
 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
As Wildcat clearly pointed out, this is TSA all over again. And the Republicans are following in line all over again. I'm surprised anybody's surprised!

This would be a MASSIVE expanse of federal government and another HUGE sign of how we aren't free. At first one might suppose the GOP (and party sheep) are cheering this because the NRA proposed it, but in all actuality it's what the GOP wants: massive government expansion.

Dale3, a bad idea is a bad idea, even if it's proposed by the NRA and supported by the GOP.

Except Wildcat's comment endorses a TSA-type approach to the problem: "How many airplanes have been flow into buildings since TSA was put in in airports?" The same number that were flown into buildings before TSA - zero.

TSA is nothing more than window dressing and airport security is no better than it was before the attacks. For someone to use TSA as a measure of success defies belief.

The solution is to put guns into the schools, but in the hands of the people who work there or volunteers who can become a de facto security force. Little or no money involved, and the benefits are instant and effective.

As has been pointed out by many others before, teachers in Israeli schools are armed - in a country where the enemy is taught to hate Jews from birth and brainwashed into believing martyrdom is to be desired. Yet, school attacks in Israel are virtually if not totally nonexistent.


Bman your part on the schools is EXACTLY what the NRA plan describes
Israel i beleave i read,has not had an attack on a school in about 40yrs now

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#3096286 - 12/26/12 02:57 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: youngandfree
So we allow GOVT PAID TEACHERS to teach our children, but we OPPOSE GOVT PAID SECURITY to keep them secure??

I personally support allowing any teacher with a CCP to carry their handgun on them at all times.

ALL israeli teachers carry Military grade rifles at all times. Why cant we do the same?


Cause it would traumatize the kids who are misinformed and misraised by thier liberal parents, who only teach them guns are evil. Thats fine cause we can do it without them little wussy(not thier fault) ever knowing Miss Johnson packing!
I bet they dont even say the word "gun" in thier house, they refur to it as the "G WORD"! \:o \:o \:o \:o

We had armed officers in my school back in the freaking 70's, everyday, all day, walking the halls, plain dress suits, sometimes uniforms. Here it is 2012 and we still dont have them in every school and with all thats happened!
we knew who they were and why they were there, didnt bother no one, they cut up with you and were just one of the staff.


Edited by Dale3 (12/26/12 03:21 PM)

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#3096355 - 12/26/12 04:08 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: BMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BMan
 Originally Posted By: TX300mag
As Wildcat clearly pointed out, this is TSA all over again. And the Republicans are following in line all over again. I'm surprised anybody's surprised!

This would be a MASSIVE expanse of federal government and another HUGE sign of how we aren't free. At first one might suppose the GOP (and party sheep) are cheering this because the NRA proposed it, but in all actuality it's what the GOP wants: massive government expansion.

Dale3, a bad idea is a bad idea, even if it's proposed by the NRA and supported by the GOP.

Except Wildcat's comment appears to endorse a TSA-type approach to the problem: "How many airplanes have been flow into buildings since TSA was put in in airports?" The same number that were flown into buildings before TSA - zero.

TSA is nothing more than window dressing and airport security is no better than it was before the attacks. For someone to use TSA as a measure of success defies belief.

The solution is to put guns into the schools, but in the hands of the people who work there or volunteers who can become a de facto security force. Little or no money involved, and the benefits are instant and effective.

As has been pointed out by many others before, teachers in Israeli schools are armed - in a country where the enemy is taught to hate Jews from birth and brainwashed into believing martyrdom is to be desired. Yet, school attacks in Israel are virtually if not totally nonexistent.


Looks like Bman is still trying to say anybody can get a Ar and several handguns into a school with armed guards, locked doors and going though a screening to get inside the building.

Yep they can get though all that easy so the obnly thing left is a all out ban on guns like Obama is pushing.

Guys like it or not but something better be done this time. The next time none of will stand a chance to stop it.

It's funny as hell that all the gun owners talk about the anti-gun groups and how OTHERS like the NRA fight them but they never join in. They would rather give up their guns first.
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#3096360 - 12/26/12 04:15 PM Re: Ron Paul RIPS NRA for plain of officers in school [Re: Wildcat]
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Dale, you have to understand something, they are members of the "only true conservatives" clut and if it comes from Ron Paul it's the gospel. It's also the reason Paul never got any real support nation wide.
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