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#3095179 - 12/25/12 05:55 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Diehard Hunter]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
Do a little research on the results of Mississippi's antler restrictions and you will find exactly what you have "theorized". There are more mature bucks with their antler restrictions, but they are smaller than the mature bucks they were killing before the antler restrictions.
Have read.

Unfortunately, we're seeing these results all across Tennessee in places that don't have any antler restrictions. My "theory" is that this antler high grading is happening in most places, just worse where there is antler restrictions.

So how old does that buck in the above pic look to you?

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#3095194 - 12/25/12 06:07 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Diehard Hunter]
catman529
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he looks 2.5 to my inexperienced eyes. If he were mature I'd have shot him with one antler.... did that this year, don't regret it.
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#3095306 - 12/25/12 07:35 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: catman529]
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I'm dying to know how old this deer is.. everything about it says 2.5 but I feel like Wes is tricking us somehow!
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#3095317 - 12/25/12 07:39 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Master Chief]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
. . . . . but I feel like Wes is tricking us somehow!

Not at all.
Just sharing some of my experiences (and frustrations!) with a few bucks.

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#3095379 - 12/25/12 08:11 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Wes Parrish]
156p&y
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Wes I would think high grading would happen anywhere regardless, but some areas the effects would be more intense simply based upon hunters lack of knowledge in aging an animal or even caring to age an animal. The rack is usually the first thing a hunter looks at before he decides to harvest an animal if they are hunting a buck. Most hunters unless trained from the beginning of their hunting career would have to reverse the process their mind goes through at decision time to eliminate high grading all together.
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#3095404 - 12/25/12 08:24 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: 156p&y]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: 156p&y
The rack is usually the first thing a hunter looks at before he decides to harvest an animal if they are hunting a buck.

I agree, and many hunters, just as they wouldn't kill a spike buck or a small antlered one, will also quickly rule out killing a buck with only one antler.

Actually meant for the antler high grading to be more a side issue on this thread, just noting that this buck survived a barrage of hunters because he only had one antler. Very unlikely he would have survived November 2010 had he not broken off his antler in October.

So how old does he look to you? Do you think there's any possibility he was a very top-end yearling in 2010?
What is it BSK says, "A yearling buck looks like a doe with antlers."?

And as another sidebar . . . . . . \:\)
Back in the day when I was more focused on antlers than age,
I killed a "nice" 8-pointer with a 16-inch spread. Turned out to be only a yearling buck. Have often wondered what that one would have looked like had he lived to 4 1/2 or older.

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#3095438 - 12/25/12 08:42 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
What is it BSK says, "A yearling buck looks like a doe with antlers."?
I agree with this, however, I cannot remember a doe that I've seen or killed that had a neck the size of the buck above. Not that it is big by any means, just bigger than the skinny necks that I'm used to seeing on does.
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#3095449 - 12/25/12 08:48 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Andy S.]
Wes Parrish
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Andy, again, just sharing some of my experiences (and frustrations!) with a few bucks! \:\)
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#3095461 - 12/25/12 08:58 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Wes Parrish]
Andy S.
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I totally understand and agree with you, like I always have. Just as 156 pointed out above, most deer hunters would have to retrain their brains to focus on other external characteristics of the buck in the heat of the moment. This is something I do not think will ever happen with the majority of every day deer hunters, which is ok, and something I've came to accept.
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#3095513 - 12/25/12 09:39 PM Re: An Exercise in Aging a Particular Buck [Re: Andy S.]
A.Hall
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I believe it's a 2-1/2, front end is too big for a yearling
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