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#3095246 - 12/25/12 06:49 PM Best way to age a deer????
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Thickness of skull plate or teeth? Heard it both ways and was just wondering what you thought.
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#3095255 - 12/25/12 06:53 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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Teeth.
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#3095270 - 12/25/12 07:06 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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never heard of skull plate.

just been learning how to age the teeth myself this year. Getting the hang of it
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#3095350 - 12/25/12 07:57 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: catman529]
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Teeth. Here's some links that will help.

http://www.qdma.com/uploads/pdf/Jawbone-Aging.pdf

http://www.qdma.com/articles/estimating-deer-age-with-cementum-annuli
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#3095413 - 12/25/12 08:27 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: Andy S.]
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Let me throw this out there just for debate reasons..... Don't make a differents to me because I hunt racks and meat... \:\)

Is there a difference in the wear of teeth of a deer that eats acorns vs corn. Deer that live only in rough conditions vs deer that live on farms. I know hard candy will mess up my teeth vs jelly beans.....

Something to chew on.... \:\)

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#3095416 - 12/25/12 08:29 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: Andy S.]
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Comparing the two...teeth. However the best way is to send the a tooth off to a lab. The teeth wear method is only good for a minimum age guess.

I'd like to see some known ages from trail cams in comparison to what the teeth show. Especially on deer 4.5+
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#3095480 - 12/25/12 09:14 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
Let me throw this out there just for debate reasons..... Don't make a differents to me because I hunt racks and meat... \:\)

Is there a difference in the wear of teeth of a deer that eats acorns vs corn. Deer that live only in rough conditions vs deer that live on farms. I know hard candy will mess up my teeth vs jelly beans.....

Something to chew on.... \:\)
yeah I have heard the diet will influence the teeth wear.
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#3095495 - 12/25/12 09:22 PM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: catman529]
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Best way to age a deer? I reckon the best way to do that is ask BSK \:\)
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#3095692 - 12/26/12 06:31 AM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: Master Chief]
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teeth,far as I know
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#3095775 - 12/26/12 08:10 AM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Teeth, but not by looking, cementum anuli (SP?). This is a process where a cross section of the tooth is used to determine age.

Aging by looking can be subjective after a deer reaches a certain age. I have seen three different age guesses on the same deer from three different "experts".
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#3095863 - 12/26/12 09:31 AM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: 102]
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I've never heard of measuring the thickness of the skull-plate as an aging technique.

The Severinghaus tooth wear and replacement aging method is the standard aging technique. However, it does only give you a good minimum ages, especially for the oldest deer (Hellickson's study on known-age deer versus the tooth-wear aging process found that most deer aged by toothwear to be 4 1/2+ are actually a year or two older).

I suspect diet probably does affect tooth-wear.

Cemmentum annuli works extremely well outside of the Southeast for aging deer. However, I question it in the Southeast, where severe summer droughts are common (which can produce two growth/dormancy rings per year).

Personally, I stick to toothwear most of the time. It may under-age the oldest deer, but it does so consistantly, hence produces accurate trend data.
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#3095978 - 12/26/12 10:25 AM Re: Best way to age a deer???? [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
Teeth, but not by looking, cementum anuli (SP?). This is a process where a cross section of the tooth is used to determine age.

Aging by looking can be subjective after a deer reaches a certain age. I have seen three different age guesses on the same deer from three different "experts".


On the money, closest way to get an accurate age.

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