#3088314 - 12/20/12 09:48 AM
Re: Question about not hitting a foodplot; long read
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woodsman87
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My neighbors plot that the love so much is probably 300 yards away on the same ridge top with nothing but hickory/oak hardwoods inbetween. I have made a mini plot before, on probably like a 100 square foot area in the woods that is kinda open for I dont know what reason, but I do not think it did anything.
The cows cannot get into any woods that we have, their shade just comes from a few isolated trees and fence lines.
Could Alfalfa work if I were to plant it, and rotate on and off grazing on it with cows during the summer?
And If I were rich enough and have enough land I would be same as you. all pasture would be food plots or grown up into thickets, undiserable woods will be logged and planted with pines or beneficial trees. I cannot see anything benificial with all my hackberry trees other than knocking down my fences and blowing over my four-wheeler trails!
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#3088426 - 12/20/12 10:48 AM
Re: Question about not hitting a foodplot; long read
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Hunter 257W
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Loc: Franklin County
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I talked to Whitetail Institute a couple years back about using their Alfa Rack for hay. They said it would make great hay but not to let horses ever graze it. I don't recall exactly why - I'm not a horse person.  I see no reason why the cows couldn't be let in there to eat it down though. Might be a problem keeping them out once they find out what you have there. One thing I do recall about cutting it for hay was that it shouldn't be cut shorter than 6 inches. That's not practical because if it's laying down when you cut it, the entire plant may not be more than 6 inches tall. Mine gets cut about 2 or 3 inches tall and that's probably why it seems to thin out if not re-seeded lighty every February/March. If you are grazing it, you can just check it every other day and run the cows out when they it down to about 6 inches.
Hackberry's are also good for hanging a disk harrow on and breaking a disc off. And bending the entire frame so that you have to spend a day with a welder and torch to fix it..... 
Wouldn't it be great to be excessively rich so we could make out own little high fence deer paradise?
Edited by Hunter 257W (12/20/12 10:51 AM)
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#3088442 - 12/20/12 10:58 AM
Re: Question about not hitting a foodplot; long read
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woodsman87
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I may try some alfalfa, I just scared it want do anything around here. It seems like you have had good sucess but Im still scared to try. I will still atleast have my clover it it doesn't work though.
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#3088465 - 12/20/12 11:22 AM
Re: Question about not hitting a foodplot; long read
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Hunter 257W
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The Whitetail Institute Alfa Rack that I am talking about is 60% alfalfa, 30% clover and 10% chicory to give you some variety already.
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#3099142 - 12/28/12 02:48 PM
Re: Question about not hitting a foodplot; long read
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BigAl
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My dad had cows on his place for years and we rarely saw deer. He got rid of them and all of a sudden the deer appeared out of the woodwork. He got cows again and once again the deer disappeared.
As a suggestion, and I don't know how expensive it would be, but has anyone every bought topsoil and/or humus and tilled it into the soil to try and improve it?
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