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#3082006 - 12/16/12 02:32 PM Call to Ban Certain Guns
Wes Parrish
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As this Connecticut kindergarten tragedy unfolded, there have been conflicting and erroneous news reports. The latest I've heard is that the shooter's mother actually was NOT affiliated with school where the shooting occurred, nor had she ever taught there.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/at-least-26-dead-in-shooting-at-connecticut-school/

Earlier reports stated that although the shooter came to the school with 3 guns, he had left the "assault" rife in the trunk of his car, and that everyone had been killed with the two handguns. Most reports are now stating that EVERYONE was killed with the "assault" rifle, and the handguns hadn't been fired. No idea how the reporting could have gotten so conflicted, as either the "assault" rifle was found in the trunk of the car, or it was found with the shooter where he killed himself inside the school.

But here's something else that's being missed by not just those calling for a ban on "assault" rifles, but those who think such a ban wouldn't lead to a ban on virtually all firearms:
It's the first blow (or first fired shot) that begins an "assault" on anything or anybody, and it has nothing to do with from what type label we attach to the weapon.

Not only can a knife or a hammer be used as a deadly "assault" weapon, but so can a shotgun that is normally used for hunting birds. Ironically, the best defense against any "assault" is typically going to be a firearm, hence the real solution to making society safer SHOULD include more firearms rather than less.

Most of us recognize that the real problem is the person rather than his chosen weapon of assault. But what happens when this fact is mostly ignored as too much of the blame is placed on a particular "label" of weapon? First, those particular labeled weapons are getting "banned", which in this case is probably going to include those labeled "assault" and/or "automatic" and/or "semi-automatic".

Then what happens when the deranged people continue to perpetuate mass killings by simply using some other weapon, device, or tool capable of even worse carnage?

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#3082008 - 12/16/12 02:32 PM Re: Call to Ban Certain Guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
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You see, many of these deranged people, like the kindergarten shooter, would still perpetrate these crimes, they'd just chose a different method to do so. They might use a kitchen knife as the deranged man just did in an elementary school in China. Some will point out that no one died in that China incident. On the other hand, anyone with the I.Q. of Adam Lanza could have created even worse carnage had he used something other than a gun.

Remember what happened at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City? That blast claimed 168 lives, including 19 children under the age of 6. And what was the "assault" weapon? Fertilizer? More ironically, Timothy McVeigh had fully automatic "assault" rifles at his disposal, and was an expert in using them. Yet he chose common fertilizer as a more deadly weapon.

Or how about what happened on September 11, 2001? What were the assault weapons? Box-cutters. Because without those box-cutters, those terrorists couldn't have commandeered the planes. If but one guy on each of those planes had had a gun, he could easily have defended the plane against some terrorists with box-cutters, and saved the lives of thousands of people.

Hitler's most deadly weapon was poison gas. But he couldn't have perpetrated the death of millions using it had that populace been armed and able to resist. That's why the citizens were first disarmed with an outright government confiscation of guns.

How about when we took the world's most technologically advanced army into Iraq and Afghanistan, then found ourselves facing "improvised" road-side bombs that have killed more of our soldiers than the "assault" rifles carried by our enemies in war?

But to bring what I'm trying to say closer to home, would the outcome of have been any different had Adam Lanza entered that kindergarten with a common shotgun used for rabbit or dove hunting, and a couple boxes of "birdshot" in his pockets?

If we continue down this road of focusing on a particular label of weapon as the problem, next banned will probably just be all guns. This has pretty much already happened under European Socialism across Europe. But a few countries like Israel understand the value of having armed school teachers to defend their children against those who would come to harm them. The Israelis have recognized that guns are more the solution than the problem.

My point is we will ban almost every useful tool we have for everything we do if we continue to blame a particular label of weapon or tool, rather than focus on the root cause of the crime. And worse, these heinous crimes will still be happening.

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#3082317 - 12/16/12 06:09 PM Re: Call to Ban Certain Guns [Re: Wes Parrish]
fishboy1
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Dont tell us.

Start telling everyone you know. Social Media etc....
Get the word out that we would be SAFER with more honest, NOT CRAZY, people carrying guns.

You cant massacre unarmed helpless people if they are armed and shooting back at you.
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#3082568 - 12/16/12 07:56 PM Re: Call to Ban Certain Guns [Re: fishboy1]
BDL
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Wes your second post is one of the best pro gun arguments ive seen. Great job!!!
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#3082636 - 12/16/12 08:33 PM Re: Call to Ban Certain Guns [Re: BDL]
huntinkev
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 Originally Posted By: BDL
Wes your second post is one of the best pro gun arguments ive seen. Great job!!!


I second that, great argument.
We may need you prepping our lawyers for the supreme court battle that is bound to happen

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#3083411 - 12/17/12 12:15 PM Re: Call to Ban Certain Guns [Re: huntinkev]
tn droptine
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Agree 100% Wes!
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