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#3082161 - 12/16/12 04:36 PM 3 inch turkey loads.
chrmayo
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How many of you just stick with 3 in loads instead of the 3.5. Also has it limited you any?
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#3082185 - 12/16/12 04:53 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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The 3.5 shells are more than I want to shoot. They may shoot farther than the 3 inch but I shoot a better more consistent pattern with the 3 inch shells. I tend to shoot low with the 3.5 I think because Im expecting the recoil and lean into the gun shooting low.
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#3082722 - 12/16/12 09:37 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: jar]
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My gun has a 3 inch chamber so I shoot 3 inch win supreme high velocity #5 or 6 shot. Normally keep to 25 yards or less but I killed a couple at 35 and one on the move at 45 this fall so they do a great job killing birds.
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#3082737 - 12/16/12 09:49 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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I know several guys that shoot 3 inch in a super mag. I don't. If they come out with a 4 inch I want one of them!
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#3082750 - 12/16/12 09:56 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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A coworker was just telling me tonight about when he shot a 4 inch shell, said it knocked him on the ground lol.
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#3082814 - 12/16/12 10:58 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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Dadgummit! They started making 4 inch and nobody told me about it! \:D
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#3082821 - 12/16/12 11:05 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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Not sure if they were turkey loads he just said they were 4 inch loads.... dont know where you find those or a gun that will take them but I'm ok with the 3's for now! lol
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#3082872 - 12/17/12 12:59 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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I know for sure, 3.5s kick hard enough.
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#3083122 - 12/17/12 08:47 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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#3083150 - 12/17/12 08:58 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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Yeah my superman with 3.5 nitros will tear your arm off
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#3083441 - 12/17/12 12:30 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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Supermag that is. I hate auto correect
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#3083686 - 12/17/12 03:34 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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Often 3" shells will pattern better than a 3.5".
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#3083703 - 12/17/12 03:44 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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Often 3" shells will pattern better than a 3.5".
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#3084191 - 12/17/12 07:38 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: wkyhunter]
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I know guys that have Mossberg 835 guns and say they have killed birds at 55-60 yards. I shoot a Mossberg 500 with 3" and have killed at 45 yards. I like to get'em a lot closer than that.
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#3084208 - 12/17/12 07:48 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: ROVERBOY]
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I've seen my dads old 500 kill em at 55+ that was with the old remington hevishot
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#3085617 - 12/18/12 05:10 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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3" here. They don't limit me (though I do limit myself).
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#3086773 - 12/19/12 11:32 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Boll Weevil]
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I now hunt with a Mossberg 500 so the 3.5" isn't an issue for me. However, I've got the 3.5" chambered turkey barrel for my New England break action. Let me tell you what. I know how the gun kicks with just 3" shells, and there's no way on God's green Earth I'd think of hunting with the tall 3.5" shells. No sir! They were CRAZY to even suggest someone shoot those shells out of a light single shot shotgun!

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#3086858 - 12/19/12 12:38 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chiggerbit]
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3.5 inch 1 and 9/16 shot BB steal shot just wrecks em..... lol..3inch 2 ounce 5 shot,the winchester shells you get at walmart for 9 dollars a box.. 55-60 yards their died.
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#3086903 - 12/19/12 01:08 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Waterfowler22]
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Here we go. As always, this is going to turn into who can take the longest most unethical shot with the cheapest ammo. Keep in mind there are young inexperienced hunters here trying to learn the right way to do things. I wish this forum had a rule like old gobbler where you cant even mention shots over 50 yards.
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#3086944 - 12/19/12 01:31 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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Their rule is 40 SH..... ;\)
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#3087040 - 12/19/12 02:23 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
Here we go. As always, this is going to turn into who can take the longest most unethical shot with the cheapest ammo. Keep in mind there are young inexperienced hunters here trying to learn the right way to do things. I wish this forum had a rule like old gobbler where you cant even mention shots over 50 yards.
I bet that's a good rule, keeps people from bashing others for "unethical" shots. I know a gun or two that can kill a bird over 50 yards. A guy on here (killminister) killed at least two over 50 yards with his new setup (more expensive ammo though). If your gun can do 50+ yards then why should someone bash it? I know mine wont do 50 very well so i will not take that shot but did kill one at 45 this fall and it flopped on the ground and never took off again.

I know I am one of the young ones here that is learning but don't think someone taking a 60 yard shot with their gun will make me take a 60 yard shot with mine. I know my limits. I've killed a few birds and the only one I knew I hit that got away was shot with a bow at 20 yards. I am a bit shy of bow hunting turkeys now.
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#3087055 - 12/19/12 02:27 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
Their rule is 40 SH..... ;\)


Thanks Griz. I couldn't remember if it was 40 or 50.

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#3087059 - 12/19/12 02:30 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
Their rule is 40 SH..... ;\)


Thanks Griz. I couldn't remember if it was 40 or 50.
why is it 40? A lot of people kill consistently over 40. What's the reasoning behind the rule? I don't think I'd fit in very well at OG which is one of the reasons I have not registered there.
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#3087064 - 12/19/12 02:35 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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Catman, I shoot 3.5 inch hevishots. I've tested numerous chokes. I have had custom work done to my barrel. I have a leupold scope. I don't shoot past 50 yards. Ask REN. We watched a nice Longbeard walk all the way around us at 55 yards and I wouldn't shoot. It only takes one lucky pellet to kill a turkey but you can't bank on that one lucky pellet. When I pull the trigger, I am going to know without a shadow of a doubt that bird is going to die. I don't bank on lucky pellets. But I have ethics.
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#3087070 - 12/19/12 02:37 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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So between 50 and 55 yards, your pattern goes from guaranteed kill to 1 lucky pellet? Weird pattern
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#3087077 - 12/19/12 02:45 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
So between 50 and 55 yards, your pattern goes from guaranteed kill to 1 lucky pellet? Weird pattern


No smartasss, but ethical hunters set limits for themselves. If I can't get him inside 50 he won that day. I'll try him again tomorrow. But I'm not so bloodthirsty that I am going to risk feeding a bird to the coyotes.

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#3087085 - 12/19/12 02:48 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
Their rule is 40 SH..... ;\)


Thanks Griz. I couldn't remember if it was 40 or 50.
why is it 40? A lot of people kill consistently over 40. What's the reasoning behind the rule? I don't think I'd fit in very well at OG which is one of the reasons I have not registered there.


They set a limit so the discussion can remain intelligent instead of a bunch of clowns bragging about how far they can shoot.

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#3087107 - 12/19/12 02:58 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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I understand setting the personal limit, makes sense. But can you say anything without talking down on people who don't fit your personal standards? I still don't get why some people think there is only one right way to hunt and preach it on people. I love killing a few hens in the fall but name one time I have told you that you should kill hens too. I may be a smart arse but I am usually open to learning and I think I'm a lot more open minded than people like you. I'm glad you have a strong sense of ethics but please stop pushing your ways on other people and tearing them down if they do something that doesn't follow your doctrine.
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#3087110 - 12/19/12 03:00 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I bet that's a good rule, keeps people from bashing others for "unethical" shots.


That's not the reason at all. It's to try to keep the chest beaters from leading inexperienced hunters from taking stupid shots. Plus, 40 yards was always the golden rule of turkey hunters until modern ammo and chokes, and most old turkey hunters still see it as the standard.

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#3087189 - 12/19/12 03:53 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
 Originally Posted By: catman529
I bet that's a good rule, keeps people from bashing others for "unethical" shots.


That's not the reason at all. It's to try to keep the chest beaters from leading inexperienced hunters from taking stupid shots. Plus, 40 yards was always the golden rule of turkey hunters until modern ammo and chokes, and most old turkey hunters still see it as the standard.
makes sense to me
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#3087236 - 12/19/12 04:32 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: ROVERBOY]
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 Originally Posted By: ROVERBOY
I know guys that have Mossberg 835 guns and say they have killed birds at 55-60 yards. I shoot a Mossberg 500 with 3" and have killed at 45 yards. I like to get'em a lot closer than that.

I fall into this category. Started out with a 500 and about 45 was the longest I'd shoot. With the 835 and magblends I can kill them at 60. Killed one at 58 that I ranged after killing him but thought he was around 50. That said IMO one of the best parts of turkey hunting is getting them in close. Whether I kill them then is a moot point as I figure I won regardless. I prefer they be 30 yards and in but like knowing I can kill him out at 60 if he won't come any closer. I've patterned my gun to know exactly what it will do though but again my preference is 30ish and in.
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#3087370 - 12/19/12 06:07 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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#3087422 - 12/19/12 06:31 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I'm glad you have a strong sense of ethics but please stop pushing your ways on other people and tearing them down if they do something that doesn't follow your doctrine.


Somebody NEEDS to start preaching ethics to hunters. Have you seen how many threads there have been about lost deer? Do you see all the bragging about how far this one and that one can kill a turkey? I saw one guy on another turkey forum bragging about killing a turkey at 86 yards! What fool would attempt such a shot? I believe the hunting community is becoming more and more a bunch of idiots shooting up the woods hoping for a miracle so they can run home and post it on the net. It can't even be blamed on young hunters. They have few ethical role models to follow.

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#3087545 - 12/19/12 07:44 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Swamphunter]
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Sorry I did not start this thread to get arguments started about the farthest shots. I was just curious as to who stuck with the 3 inch shells instead of 3.5. Have heard about the 80 yard shots to and think its ridiculous.
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#3087562 - 12/19/12 07:52 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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I have been told/read about people getting better patterns with a 3" shell in a 3.5" chamber than using a 3.5" shell.... Try and see what happens....
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#3087574 - 12/19/12 08:04 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Waterfowler22]
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 Originally Posted By: Waterfowler22
3.5 inch 1 and 9/16 shot BB steal shot just wrecks em..... lol..3inch 2 ounce 5 shot,the winchester shells you get at walmart for 9 dollars a box.. 55-60 yards their died.


And, the BB steel would be illegal for TN.
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#3087601 - 12/19/12 08:15 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: scn]
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 Originally Posted By: Waterfowler22
3.5 inch 1 and 9/16 shot BB steal shot just wrecks em..... lol..3inch 2 ounce 5 shot,the winchester shells you get at walmart for 9 dollars a box.. 55-60 yards their died.


And, the BB steel would be illegal for TN.


Not sure why anyone would shoot steel at a turkey when there are so many better things available. Steel is absolutely pitiful on ducks and I can't imagine it's much better on turkeys.

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#3088248 - 12/20/12 09:20 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: chrmayo]
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To me 3" patterns better. Ive got no problem pulling the trigger on one out at 45 yards. The best things to do is try different loads and chokes.
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#3088386 - 12/20/12 10:27 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: skillet]
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My favorite load ever and ever has been and probably the best that ever will be was the old Remington Hevi-shot. I had an 11-87 with an extra full remington choke and I shot them high-quality green, remington hevi-shots. These were 3'' loads 50-55 yards was not problem and don't care what anyone says about taking long shots.
But anyways, I wish they still made them like that. The new regular Hevi-shot brand Hevi-shot patterns real well, but unless you kill every other time you go the shells become a pain. after so much loading and un-loading, the brass rim gets bummed easy and gets to where they cant eject and even hard to reload. The ends come apart too after a while, allowing that white stuff to get all into the guns action and bbs start coming out.
they shoot great but I hate them and will never use them again because they fall apart.
remington 4x6s patterned really well. Federal Mag-shok lead patterns well. Winchester extended range patterns well. The only load I never have liked are the winchester supremes that cost like 5 dollars a box. They pattern terrible and looked only to be good up to about 25 yards.

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#3088397 - 12/20/12 10:32 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: woodsman87]
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And steel shot is illegal, but I do not know why anyone would want to use it. It just passes through the animals while lead goes in and expands and makes shapes and tears way more tissue.
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#3088440 - 12/20/12 10:57 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: woodsman87]
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I have not read anything that said steel shot was illegal to use.... but the shot does have to be #4 or smaller.
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#3088501 - 12/20/12 12:06 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: woodsman87]
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 Originally Posted By: woodsman87
And steel shot is illegal, but I do not know why anyone would want to use it. It just passes through the animals while lead goes in and expands and makes shapes and tears way more tissue.


No, steel shot is not illegal.

Shot size larger than size 4 is illegal no matter what it is made of.
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#3089102 - 12/20/12 06:35 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: scn]
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I don't know about yalls turkey loads but mine do not expand, I've only pulled intact bbs out of my turkeys before. I shoot win supreme turkey loads, I think they are copper coated.
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#3094462 - 12/24/12 10:18 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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3" Winchester #6's here out of a Win 1300. Have killed a couple at near 70 steps. If you don't think it can be done, don't pull the trigger. If you do let her eat. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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#3094839 - 12/25/12 10:50 AM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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The 3's shoot more accurately for some people as well. When they shoot 3.5's they tend to shut their eyes and grit their teeth. Just can't hit what you can't see.
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#3094917 - 12/25/12 12:05 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Bigg'un4214]
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 Originally Posted By: Bigg'un4214
The 3's shoot more accurately for some people as well. When they shoot 3.5's they tend to shut their eyes and grit their teeth. Just can't hit what you can't see.
sounds about right lol. I don't care to shoot a 3.5 unless I want a tattoo of a gun stock on my shoulder ;\)
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#3095026 - 12/25/12 02:00 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: catman529]
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Get a Browning pump 10 ga. And you dont have any choice ;\)
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#3095204 - 12/25/12 06:17 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
Get a Browning pump 10 ga. And you dont have any choice ;\)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uJouw9uh84
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#3095354 - 12/25/12 07:59 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
Get a Browning pump 10 ga. And you dont have any choice ;\)



If you want to take that kind of punishment, more power to ya.\:D
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#3101593 - 12/30/12 03:41 PM Re: 3 inch turkey loads. [Re: TeamMainStreet]
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I shoot both 3 and 3.5 in my guns but usually shoot 3".

There is a ton of FAIL in this thread though hahah.
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