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#3074706 - 12/11/12 05:01 PM HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION
DaveB
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Why is this in the Political Forum? Because HSBC bank intentionally allowed hundreds of Billions of dollars to be routed to Iran. Billions more from Mexican Drug Cartels got washed courtesy of this bank. There is more, much more, enough to get you truly angry.

If you or I did this, or any small part of it, we'd be in super max.

Here is the link. Open it, click on the word "report" in first paragraphs. Save it to your hrad drive and read it.

http://www.fiercehomelandsecurity.com/st...cial/2012-07-18

And just guess where I work. Yep.

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#3074799 - 12/11/12 06:06 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: DaveB]
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FoxNews and Fox Business news are blasting the DOJ for not putting HSBC people in jail. If you read the report, HSBC fired one person who actually stood and said this was illegal. As the media gets hold of the document, which has been available since late July, more will hit the airwaves. Reuters has a nice overview but the horrific details are in the report.

Edited by DaveB (12/11/12 06:07 PM)

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#3074806 - 12/11/12 06:09 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: DaveB]
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Another Obama scandal.

Which means no scandal at all
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#3074949 - 12/11/12 07:18 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Another Obama scandal.

Which means no scandal at all


Yep.

Funny thing is GE has been allowed to DO BUSSINESS with Iran for the last 4 years while all US companies are banned from doing the same.
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#3074986 - 12/11/12 07:36 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Wildcat]
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Get a rope.
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#3075003 - 12/11/12 07:42 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Another Obama scandal.

Which means no scandal at all


Yep.

Funny thing is GE has been allowed to DO BUSSINESS with Iran for the last 4 years while all US companies are banned from doing the same.


Interesting you mention GE:

12/10/2012
The chairman of President Barack Obama’s job council (GE's Jeff Immelt) has endorsed China’s style of crony capitalism, saying “state-run communism may not be your cup of tea, but their government works.”

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#3075027 - 12/11/12 07:58 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: preds1]
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I'm pissed. I pay HSBC monthly for this computer I got from Best Buy. 18 months same as cash but still, had I known this..
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#3075174 - 12/11/12 09:42 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: 94user]
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Let me explain why I am so very angry.

American's have died in Irag and Afghanistan because of this bank. Civilians in London and Madrid and India. You and me, we'd be gone, our name and family ruined if we were guilty of this kind of illegal activity. They have a 5-year Deferred Prosecution Action, which means they don't straighten up, the Feds can institute criminal proceedings. Hopefully the outcry will be so loud something will happen.


Edited by DaveB (12/11/12 09:42 PM)

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#3075192 - 12/11/12 09:57 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: DaveB]
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Yea. But it''s ok. Voters are getting free s****. Nothing else can possibly matter. We voted with our lady parts
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#3075202 - 12/11/12 10:04 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Crappie Luck]
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I have a feeling if we experience a major economic crisis in this country many of said banks will tragically be burned to the ground.
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#3075236 - 12/11/12 10:53 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Yea. But it''s ok. Voters are getting free s****. Nothing else can possibly matter. We voted with our lady parts


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#3075239 - 12/11/12 10:57 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Koyodiak]
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#3075305 - 12/12/12 04:45 AM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Another Obama scandal.

Which means no scandal at all


Your exactly right. Pointless to get mad,upset.worried, BP up!
This man can do ANYTHING reguardless of law,facts, proof,video,ect.....
Its going to be ignored,covered up, not reported, lied about,flipped the blame,class warfair,racist,whatever.

I dont know how you can even be a Dem and lie to yourself about these things. I couldnt do it if a Pub was so outragess!
I know Dems are dumb, but not all and even the ones who may have some smarts just ignore things like this for sake of party, and to never admit wrong.
I know there are pubs who also do it, but nothing on the scale of dems.
JUst might as well block it out of your mind, cause just like CL said "Another Obama scandal.

Which means no scandal at all"

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#3078319 - 12/13/12 10:52 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: DaveB]
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The Deferred Prosecution Agreement is a ball-buster for sure. HSBC has to employ and pay for an independent monitor and staff of at least 3 for a period of 5 years, could be 6. The monitor has the agreed-upon authority to stick their nose any place they please to insure the bank is continuing to abide by the law. Any resistance, obstructions, denials, press releases that in any way would tend to make the bank look innocent, and the DPA will be abrogated and criminal prosecution will begin and all of the damning material HSBC coughed up in an attempt to avoid criminal prosecution will be used against them in felony proceedings.

Good. Not perfect. But Good. This place has an attitude that they are above the law. Let me give you an example: In one area of Sinoloa state in Mexico HSBC transported back to the USA 4 billion dollars. In One Year.

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#3080367 - 12/15/12 09:44 AM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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That happened in 2008. Bush, Paulsen and Obama brought out the fire extinguishers that you paid for to put out any fires at the major banks. Meanwhile banker bonus's skyrocket again.

How's your bonus doing this year?
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#3080649 - 12/15/12 02:22 PM Re: HSBC is fined 1.92 BILLION [Re: ChippewaPartners]
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Chippewa-
Don't quite understand your post. If you read the official documents you will see an extended period of time-over 8 years-the bank blatantly and knowningly violated US laws. The Senate documents, questionable source I know, walk through a series of illegal activities by the bank in country after country, all of which ended up running dirty money through the US finance system. Should they have gone to jail, yes, no doubt, absolutely. Will they? With some luck maybe so. I ain't holding my breath but the DPA holds out hope.

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