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#3071307 - 12/09/12 06:07 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: thejetman]
knightrider
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just leave it open year around rifles only, kill em all then everyone can agree on what we need to do. i have read the whole 22 pages im sure glad these suggestions dont make law!!!!!
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#3071394 - 12/09/12 07:07 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: knightrider]
TNDeerGuy
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Telecheck and reduce the firearms season, and certainly take it out of the rut, meanwhile lengthen the entire season to Jan 31, or the beginning of September and lastly, start counting button bucks as a buck tag and remove the antlerless designation.
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#3071599 - 12/09/12 08:26 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
ghosthunter
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Let me hunt til the end of January. I hate it getting down to the wire before I get a good one.

Edited by ghosthunter (12/09/12 08:26 PM)
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#3071854 - 12/09/12 11:39 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
DropTine21
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 Originally Posted By: jar
6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.


What he said

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#3071885 - 12/10/12 02:35 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: DropTine21]
deerthug78
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ok first what is the telecheck yall been talking about? and myself earn a buck program hunter must kill a doe to take a buck.
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#3071916 - 12/10/12 05:20 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: DropTine21]
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 Originally Posted By: jar
6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.
Deer do not "live" on large or small tracks. Deer will move and live in a large area and the size of that area will vary depending on the cover, food supply, and natural features of the area. The problem with small tracks is that they get too much hunting pressure for the acreage they cover.
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#3071986 - 12/10/12 06:53 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
jar
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I know deer dont live on one specific tract but when they travel through a area like this and someone is hunting every 10 acres. , our gun season is to long. Yes these small properties do get to much hunting pressure for their size BECAUSE we have a gun season that is entirely to long.
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#3072062 - 12/10/12 07:58 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: jar
6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.
Deer do not "live" on large or small tracks. Deer will move and live in a large area and the size of that area will vary depending on the cover, food supply, and natural features of the area. The problem with small tracks is that they get too much hunting pressure for the acreage they cover.

Deer do not know who owns the property, and their world is one single land mass, regardless of the land ownership patterns.

Many people are mistakenly blaming a "long gun season" for decreasing daytime deer movement when the real reason is often more just a good acorn crop, shifting food sources, and natural deer behavior (such as the buck movement essentially shutting down post-rut).

I have privy to several thousand acres of lightly hunted hill & holler land. Despite the deer density appearing higher than ever, I've had the worst deer season in many years. But it has nothing to do with "gun hunting", and everything to do with a bumper acorn crop, and now the rut being over. My lack of deer sightings also has to do with a lack of hunting skills, as even when we think we're good, we're seldom as good as we think, and the deer prove that to me, year after year.

Another change (regarding daytime deer movement) I've noticed trending over the past several years is a progressive increase in "cover" (at least across most of TN and my main hunting areas). Back in the day when most of the landscape was just open hardwoods, deer were forced (by any disturbance) to move more simply because they had no place to hide. Today, they are more inclined to just "hunker down". To what extent any "hunting" decreases daytime deer movement, I believe pre-season and archery-season "scouting" does as much or more harm than most gun hunting.

Deer are typically much more "pressured" by people walking around "scouting" in the Fall (in areas that go most of the year undisturbed), than they are by some gun hunter simply sitting on a deer stand in November.

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#3072071 - 12/10/12 08:10 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Wes Parrish]
jar
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You are comparing 1000 acres of "Lightly hunted" hiis to maybe 1000 acres of cut up land where access is behind every house. Completely different situation.
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#3072123 - 12/10/12 08:40 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: jar
I know deer dont live on one specific tract but when they travel through a area like this and someone is hunting every 10 acres. , our gun season is to long. Yes these small properties do get to much hunting pressure for their size BECAUSE we have a gun season that is entirely to long.


if you want to see hunting pressure, go hunt one of those week long seasons. most of the pressure on tennessee deer is opening weekend of gun and thanksgiving weekend. many hunters have quit by late season and there is not that much pressure on the deer. i love our long season
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