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#3070989 - 12/09/12 02:50 PM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: showmehorns]
beachguy
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 Originally Posted By: showmehorns
The media put him there. .


Yep ala Woodson


Edited by beachguy (12/09/12 02:51 PM)
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#3071059 - 12/09/12 03:20 PM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: beachguy]
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 Originally Posted By: beachguy
 Originally Posted By: showmehorns
The media put him there. .


Yep ala Woodson


You mean Woodson didn't win it...... \:D

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#3071148 - 12/09/12 04:07 PM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: gator-n-buck]
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I didn't know about his arrest. Now that I do, I still say he was the best player among the 3.He deserved the trophy as for as play goes. I also have no problem with him being a freshman.


That said, yes what he did is done a lot by young college kids. However, the Heisman has in the past been about more than just on the field play.

Due to his arrest for violating 4 laws at least and intentionally/willfully/premeditated violating 3 of those, he should not have even been there in NY.

Especially with the charges still not settled and it doesn't appear he was disciplined by Texas A&M either.

Just sets a bad example for future players.

The year he's had, the wins, the bowl game should have been enough along with a valuable lesson. He would then have 3 more years to win the Heisman.
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#3071157 - 12/09/12 04:18 PM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: gator-n-buck]
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 Originally Posted By: gator-n-buck
 Originally Posted By: beachguy
 Originally Posted By: showmehorns
The media put him there. .


Yep ala Woodson


You mean Woodson didn't win it...... \:D

i just mean not belonging
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#3071178 - 12/09/12 04:31 PM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: beachguy]
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Just wonder how good he will be next year. Can you imagine the pressure that will be on him.
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#3071246 - 12/09/12 05:20 PM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: Buckykm1]
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his left and right tackle will be drafted in the top 10 picks. yes, it will be interesting.
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#3071905 - 12/10/12 04:47 AM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: Vermin93]
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 Originally Posted By: Vermin93


You obviously don't understand the role that Te'o played at middle linebacker this season. By design, he rarely blitzed or rushed the passer. 100+ tackles and 7 picks. Nobody has done that in years. Notre Dame would have lost several games without him.

Look at the final top-25. Johnny Mugshot beat one top-25 team and lost to the other top-25 teams he played.

Not sure why I'm even bothering to present facts. They mean little to the SEC fan club.


100 tackles isn't anything special. There are more than 50 players with 100+ tackles this year. 7 int's is good, but again not spectacular. Generally there are 4-5 players a year with 7. there are 4 this year and 1 with 3 pick 6's. Te'o is a good (I'll even say great) player on the only undefeated team in the Nation. That is the ONLY reason he was even invited to New York. ND will get skulldragged on January 7th. Roll Tide!
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#3072001 - 12/10/12 07:09 AM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: RutMan]
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pretty good
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#3072027 - 12/10/12 07:29 AM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: gator-n-buck]
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The right guy won. Heisman is for play on field, plain and simple. Thats why its not called the "Mother Theresa". Te'o is an awesome defensive player, Kline is a great player also. Both will have an NFL job. Teo will be able to say something else soon about his career, that he played in a NC game and LOST TO THE BEST TEAM IN THE NATION..ROLL TIDE!
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#3072028 - 12/10/12 07:29 AM Re: Johnny Manziel [Re: BamaProud]
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The trophy is given each year to the best player in college football.....as voted on by those deemed eligible to vote.

I have watched the presentation for many years and never remember the presenter mentioning the word "character".

No one is perfect.....he was the best player this year and was given an award based on his play on the field, and that is the way it should be.

congrats to him...
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