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#3071094 - 12/09/12 03:36 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
nate17
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
Most kills will be in the 20 yard range anyway, which shouldn't be a problem with standard loads. Just make sure you shoot paper a few times and know where your POI is, and how far you can shoot without the pattern breaking up too much.



Saying most kills @ 20 is a giving a false sense of hope while playing the game.... Yes a person can get lucky and have one walk in that close... Out of the dozen+ I have killed only 1 was 20 yards or less (16 paces to be exact).... They don't always get that close for whatever reason.

Alot has to do with the area your hunting.... thick woods, open hardwoods, or fields/pastures.

As was said, shoot the gun, check the POA/POI, and determine the effective range for your barrel length/shell/choke combo.... then hunt and try to get your birds within that effective range... If you try long enough and are not satisfied with the results.... you can always buy another gun with a larger chamber.

I would rather have a gun set up for distance and not need it, than to need it and not have it.... Turkeys have their own schedule and you can't make them do something they don't want to....

I have limited time to hunt, spent hours at the target range testing, spend money on shells, license, gas, equipment, and calls..... I won't be going home empty handed unless all other options have been exhausted.


I dont think its giving a false sense of hope. You cant shoot birds under 20 yds if you pull the trigger at 40 every time.

For the record. I rarely hunt fields and opt for thicker cover for my setups. It works better for me to let the bird come searching thus creating shorter shot opportunties. I have had many less instances of birds hanging up out of range or being intercepted by hens before they get to me. Fields are freakn hen magnets.

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#3071191 - 12/09/12 04:38 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: nate17]
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N17, I agree.... but, to go into the woods every trip and expect every gobbler to come into 20 yards or less is just nonscense.

The closer the bird gets, the greater the chance that something you do will spook him.... I try to shoot at the first available/clear shot opportunity.... and that depends on my setup... depending on the gun setup, the closer the shot, the better the chance of missing as well.

I will let them come in if they will... just have to see how the bird reacts to whats going on in that particular situation... if he gets close and starts acting spooky... you better be ready to shoot. If he is at your maximum comfort zone.... and doesn't seem to want to come on in... only you will know whether to pull the trigger or not.
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#3071379 - 12/09/12 07:02 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
nate17
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no doubt, I agree with u 100% griz
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#3071429 - 12/09/12 07:21 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
 Originally Posted By: catman529
Most kills will be in the 20 yard range anyway, which shouldn't be a problem with standard loads. Just make sure you shoot paper a few times and know where your POI is, and how far you can shoot without the pattern breaking up too much.



Saying most kills @ 20 is a giving a false sense of hope while playing the game.... Yes a person can get lucky and have one walk in that close... Out of the dozen+ I have killed only 1 was 20 yards or less (16 paces to be exact).... They don't always get that close for whatever reason.

Alot has to do with the area your hunting.... thick woods, open hardwoods, or fields/pastures.

As was said, shoot the gun, check the POA/POI, and determine the effective range for your barrel length/shell/choke combo.... then hunt and try to get your birds within that effective range... If you try long enough and are not satisfied with the results.... you can always buy another gun with a larger chamber.

I would rather have a gun set up for distance and not need it, than to need it and not have it.... Turkeys have their own schedule and you can't make them do something they don't want to....

I have limited time to hunt, spent hours at the target range testing, spend money on shells, license, gas, equipment, and calls..... I won't be going home empty handed unless all other options have been exhausted.
most people I've talked to kill most of their gobblers in the 20 yd range. I didn't go past 25 yards this past spring and tagged out. This fall, some instinctive shooing took over and I shot a couple at 35 yd and one at 45 yd but normally 20 to 30 yd is a pretty common range to kill a gobbler in the spring, from my limited experience and from others I have talked to. Doesn't mean they won't hang up at 40 or 50 but like someone else here said, it's part of the game..... My two cents
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#3071446 - 12/09/12 07:26 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
Most people I've talked to kill most of their gobblers in the 20 yd range. I didn't go past 25 yards this past spring and tagged out. This fall, some instinctive shooing took over and I shot a couple at 35 yd and one at 45 yd but normally 20 to 30 yd is a pretty common range to kill a gobbler in the spring, from my limited experience and from others I have talked to. Doesn't mean they won't hang up at 40 or 50 but like someone else here said, it's part of the game..... My two cents



You have been very lucky young man.... congrats on your success!!
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#3071462 - 12/09/12 07:33 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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I kill the majority of mine at 20 to 30 yds but I still want my gun to be able to thump one at 50. I always take the first good shot I get. I try to get em inside 40 but sometimes they get nervous as we all know.
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#3071636 - 12/09/12 08:41 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: Benelli 4 Life]
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Yep griz I have been very lucky. Beginners luck as I say...
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#3074351 - 12/11/12 01:15 PM Re: Turkey loaded [Re: Swamphunter]
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40-50 turkeys
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