#3070927 - 12/09/12 02:05 PM
Re: Johnny Manziel
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yes, he was head and shoulders above the rest. don't even know why Te'o was there. 59th in tackles, 3 of his teammates had more sacks. ridiculous  You obviously don't understand the role that Te'o played at middle linebacker this season. By design, he rarely blitzed or rushed the passer. 100+ tackles and 7 picks. Nobody has done that in years. Notre Dame would have lost several games without him. Look at the final top-25. Johnny Mugshot beat one top-25 team and lost to the other top-25 teams he played. Not sure why I'm even bothering to present facts. They mean little to the SEC fan club.
I am by far a SEC fanboy. I just don't get butthurt when my boy doesn't take home the hardware. No doubt Teo (spelling) seems like a great kid, but he just took up space in the running.
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#3070931 - 12/09/12 02:09 PM
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Throw ND's teams up there and see how they compare..... Let's see..... OU.... The olny good team that comes to mind.... Carry on...  PAC-12 Champion and BCS #6 Stanford BCS #11 Oklahoma BCS #18 Michigan I'm looking for the equivalent of FCS powerhouses S. Carolina State and Sam Houston State on the ND schedule. I see Boston College, but that's about it. I'm also looking for 2 losses on the ND schedule, but I'm not finding any.
Didn't ole Michigan get drilled by Bama? The only big win I think Stanford had was against a weak USC that can't play "D". let's just end this silly debate..... What conference has one the N/C the last so many years.... That would be te SEC.... Carry on...
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#3070932 - 12/09/12 02:10 PM
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I am by far a SEC fanboy. I just don't get butthurt when my boy doesn't take home the hardware. No doubt Teo (spelling) seems like a great kid, but he just took up space in the running.
Yes, that's why he got the most points ever by a defensive player. Because people who know a lot more about football than you or I thought he was taking up space. Sigh...
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#3070935 - 12/09/12 02:14 PM
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Throw ND's teams up there and see how they compare..... Let's see..... OU.... The olny good team that comes to mind.... Carry on... PAC-12 Champion and BCS #6 Stanford BCS #11 Oklahoma BCS #18 Michigan I'm looking for the equivalent of FCS powerhouses S. Carolina State and Sam Houston State on the ND schedule. I see Boston College, but that's about it. I'm also looking for 2 losses on the ND schedule, but I'm not finding any. Didn't ole Michigan get drilled by Bama? The only big win I think Stanford had was against a weak USC that can't play "D". let's just end this silly debate..... What conference has one the N/C the last so many years.... That would be te SEC.... Carry on...
Do you even follow football outside the SEC? Stanford beat Oregon in Oregon.
Check out this awesome Heisman run:
Florida - loss at home
SMU - joke
S Carlina State - joke
Arkansas - 2012 joke
Ole Miss - average
Louisiana Tech - average at best
LSU - loss at home
Auburn - 2012 joke
Miss St - average
Alabama - huge win
Sam Houston State - joke
Missouri - 2012 joke
OU - TBD
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#3070940 - 12/09/12 02:16 PM
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I am by far a SEC fanboy. I just don't get butthurt when my boy doesn't take home the hardware. No doubt Teo (spelling) seems like a great kid, but he just took up space in the running. Yes, that's why he got the most points ever by a defensive player. Because people who know a lot more about football than you or I thought he was taking up space. Sigh...
The media put him there. If you know football like you think you do, then you know it was a big joke. Doesn't really matter in the end, he didn't take the trophy home. It went home with the best player in college football. Sigh...
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#3070943 - 12/09/12 02:17 PM
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I am by far a SEC fanboy. I just don't get butthurt when my boy doesn't take home the hardware. No doubt Teo (spelling) seems like a great kid, but he just took up space in the running. Yes, that's why he got the most points ever by a defensive player. Because people who know a lot more about football than you or I thought he was taking up space. Sigh...
Not true... It's always been known in college football that ND has always been showed a lot of love by the voters. How many times over the years has ND been ranked high at the start of the season and did nothing from that point on? I'm just glad this time some of the voters had common sense....
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#3070944 - 12/09/12 02:18 PM
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Throw ND's teams up there and see how they compare..... Let's see..... OU.... The olny good team that comes to mind.... Carry on... PAC-12 Champion and BCS #6 Stanford BCS #11 Oklahoma BCS #18 Michigan I'm looking for the equivalent of FCS powerhouses S. Carolina State and Sam Houston State on the ND schedule. I see Boston College, but that's about it. I'm also looking for 2 losses on the ND schedule, but I'm not finding any. Didn't ole Michigan get drilled by Bama? The only big win I think Stanford had was against a weak USC that can't play "D". let's just end this silly debate..... What conference has one the N/C the last so many years.... That would be te SEC.... Carry on...
As gator said, who was won the N/C the last 6 about to be 7 years? The SEC. The facts have proven themselves and the best player won. What is there to argue about?
Edited by 09FX4 (12/09/12 02:24 PM)
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#3070956 - 12/09/12 02:27 PM
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Throw ND's teams up there and see how they compare..... Let's see..... OU.... The olny good team that comes to mind.... Carry on... PAC-12 Champion and BCS #6 Stanford BCS #11 Oklahoma BCS #18 Michigan I'm looking for the equivalent of FCS powerhouses S. Carolina State and Sam Houston State on the ND schedule. I see Boston College, but that's about it. I'm also looking for 2 losses on the ND schedule, but I'm not finding any. Didn't ole Michigan get drilled by Bama? The only big win I think Stanford had was against a weak USC that can't play "D". let's just end this silly debate..... What conference has one the N/C the last so many years.... That would be te SEC.... Carry on... Do you even follow football outside the SEC? Stanford beat Oregon in Oregon. Check out this awesome Heisman run: Florida - loss at home SMU - joke S Carlina State - joke Arkansas - 2012 joke Ole Miss - average Louisiana Tech - average at best LSU - loss at home Auburn - 2012 joke Miss St - average Alabama - huge win Sam Houston State - joke Missouri - 2012 joke OU - TBD
Navy - joke
Purdue - joke
Michigan St - joke
Michigan - joke
Miami (FL) joke
Stanford
BYU -joke
Oklahoma
Pittsburgh - big joke/ot
Boston College - joke
Wake Forest -joke
USC - joke
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#3070960 - 12/09/12 02:28 PM
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I am by far a SEC fanboy. I just don't get butthurt when my boy doesn't take home the hardware. No doubt Teo (spelling) seems like a great kid, but he just took up space in the running. Yes, that's why he got the most points ever by a defensive player. Because people who know a lot more about football than you or I thought he was taking up space. Sigh... The media put him there. If you know football like you think you do, then you know it was a big joke. Doesn't really matter in the end, he didn't take the trophy home. It went home with the best player in college football. Sigh...
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