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#3069787 - 12/08/12 06:30 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: greyfox1947]
bowhunterfanatic
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Ok. I obviously didn't do a good job getting my question across. I know where to aim at a deer. What I don't know is why some deer drop in their tracks when shot in a certain spot, while others can be hit in the exact same spot at the exact same angle and manage to run 80 yards.

For instance, I shot a decent body sized buck a couple weeks ago with a 7-08 at ~ 160 yards. I hit him ~ 3 or 4 inches behind the shoulder maybe an inch above the center of his chest. He dropped straight to the ground. I didn't open his chest cavity (rarely ever gut a deer anymore) but based on entrance and exit wound I devastated both lungs without hitting the heart. However, I've seen other deer shot with larger and smaller caliber rifles whose lungs were also completely devastated but still managed to run. How is this????

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#3069853 - 12/08/12 07:23 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: bowhunterfanatic]
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Just depends on the rifle bullet combo. I know i uses to own a 7mag and within 70 yards no matter what they never dropped pass that they did. Switched bullets and they dropped no matter what yardage.
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#3069886 - 12/08/12 07:44 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: greyfox1947]
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Right behind the front shoulder dropped mine in his tracks today. It was a high shot from a steep angle that took out both lungs and he never even wiggled.
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#3069893 - 12/08/12 07:48 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: Roost 1]
7wsm
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 Originally Posted By: Roost 1
High shoulder..shocks the spine. Works for me anyhow.
every time

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#3069894 - 12/08/12 07:51 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: greyfox1947]
7wsm
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 Originally Posted By: greyfox1947
neck shots will put them on the ground....period.

Rick
not always

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#3069895 - 12/08/12 07:51 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: Diehard Hunter]
Mike Belt
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If you'll look at a picture of a deer...follow his front leg up to the body. About midway up you'll see what looks like a dimple in his shoulder. A bullet right there will drop him like a sack of bricks.
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#3069897 - 12/08/12 07:52 PM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: travle]
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 Originally Posted By: travle
correct me if i'm wrong, but won't that just break a leg and not even hit the body of the deer?


High shoulder shot works like a champ.
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#3070237 - 12/09/12 12:40 AM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
 Originally Posted By: travle
correct me if i'm wrong, but won't that just break a leg and not even hit the body of the deer?


High shoulder shot works like a champ.


i read your post wrong then....the way i read it was start at the deer's foot and follow it up till midways and then go slightly above it... That made me think midways was at the knee joint of the leg and you would shoot just above it.

Anyways, I believe the deer instantly dropping comes from shock of the bullet and that's the only factor. the deer is still on the ground alive for a short period of time. Just because the lungs or heart are hit doesn't mean it is instantly dead. A punctured heart with still pump blood until the blood pressure becomes so low from internal bleeding (e.g. you have something hooked up to an airline, and if that airline has a leak whatever is hooked to it won't work at its top end. and will eventually fail as the leak because greater causing air lose to be greater). Once the heart stops from low pressure the brain and lungs stop receiving blood so it dies. So with a deer bleeding out it can still run a great distance even if death occurs within 20 seconds. Example a pro football player can run 40 yards in 4.5 seconds so in 9 seconds they could run 80 yards. A deer is by far faster than a human. Also for lungs to work properly the pressure inside the chest cavity must be maintained. So if you or a deer even has a pencil size hole or smaller hole in the chest cavity they could suffocate in a matter of minutes. because the chest cavity pressure being lost causes the lungs to collapse and you or a deer can no longer breath. Your rib cage is built to withstand the outside environment pressure. The pressure inside the chest cavity is lower which allows you to breath. Once the chest cavity is punctured the inside pressure is equalized to the higher outside pressure causing collapsed lungs. To give you an idea a ping pong ball is able to maintain its shape because it is built to withstand the everyday pressure of the outside environment. But you take that ping pong ball and put it in the ocean at great depths the greater pressure causes the ping pong ball to collapse.

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#3070245 - 12/09/12 01:20 AM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: travle]
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you could shoot 100 deer in the same exact spot some will drop some will run its just how it happens
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#3070266 - 12/09/12 05:37 AM Re: Shot Placement Question??? [Re: Eric Kilby]
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 Originally Posted By: Eric Kilby
you could shoot 100 deer in the same exact spot some will drop some will run its just how it happens


Can't say it any better than this! \:\)

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