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#3069010 - 12/08/12 08:00 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: backstraps]
Wes Parrish
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The only way this idea would be worthy of consideration would be if our buck limit (and possibly our doe limit in various units) were reduced to no more than 2 antlered deer annually.

Personally, I think the weapons season segments (archery-muzzleloader-centerfire)) are the best they've ever been, since there is no longer the confusing "switching" back and forth.

Any changes, imo, should be made in small increments, rather than a huge change such as allowing any weapon from September thru January. IMO, the next increment worthy of considering might be to allow shotguns (using slugs) during the muzzleloader season segment. And if that were implemented, I'd think a statewide 2-buck limit should come with it.

We need to also consider that currently the number of hunters is dwindling (along with the number of hours per hunter spent hunting annually), while the deer herd appears to be still expanding (in TN). This should allow for a little more firearm hunting opportunity, while a 2-buck limit may be needed to help facilitate an adequate doe harvest as well as meet the desires of those remaining hunters who would like to see continued improvement in herd quality.

At the same time, due to an expanding human population, many areas may be becoming "archery only" even during what would otherwise be a "rifle" deer season segment. So there will be growing opportunity for the elitist bowhunters, i.e. more WMA's like President's Island, and possibly some entire counties (Knox, Davidson, Shelby, Hamilton) becoming archery only for deer hunting per local ordinance.

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#3069018 - 12/08/12 08:06 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Swamphunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
Nobody said anything about "pure" archery. But a bow is a bow and a crossbow is like shooting a 50 yard gun. Completely different.
I take it that you have never tried to hunt with a x-bow.
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#3069031 - 12/08/12 08:14 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Beekeeper]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
Nobody said anything about "pure" archery. But a bow is a bow and a crossbow is like shooting a 50 yard gun. Completely different.
I take it that you have never tried to hunt with a x-bow.


a compound will outperform a crossbow much past 30 yds.
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#3069061 - 12/08/12 08:31 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
Nobody said anything about "pure" archery. But a bow is a bow and a crossbow is like shooting a 50 yard gun. Completely different.
I take it that you have never tried to hunt with a x-bow.


a compound will outperform a crossbow much past 30 yds.


Exactly. Whenever I hear the "cross-gun" comment, I know that's a person who has never fired a high-quality crossbow. Their performance beyond 25 yards is well below that of a good compound.
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#3069087 - 12/08/12 08:47 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: BSK]
Swamphunter
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Never fired one. Don't intend to unless I become disabled. Just going by what I see at the archery range. Guys with scoped crossbows shooting very tight groups at 50 yards routinely.
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#3069091 - 12/08/12 08:50 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Swamphunter]
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Besides, the arguement is similarity to a gun. A bow hunter sees a deer he has to stand up, find a window to draw, hold, find a window to shoot. A crossbow shooter aims and pulls the trigger. Much like a gun.
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#3069093 - 12/08/12 08:52 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Swamphunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
Never fired one. Don't intend to unless I become disabled. Just going by what I see at the archery range. Guys with scoped crossbows shooting very tight groups at 50 yards routinely.
I watch drivers drive cars around a track at 100+ mph "routinely" but that doesn't mean anyone can do it nor does it mean it is easy.
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#3069096 - 12/08/12 08:58 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Beekeeper]
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I like season the way it is currently. It's easy and straightforward. I'm very happy to be a hunter in TN.
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#3069100 - 12/08/12 09:01 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Beekeeper]
Swamphunter
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Swamphunter
Never fired one. Don't intend to unless I become disabled. Just going by what I see at the archery range. Guys with scoped crossbows shooting very tight groups at 50 yards routinely.
I watch drivers drive cars around a track at 100+ mph "routinely" but that doesn't mean anyone can do it nor does it mean it is easy.


Ridiculous comparison. If somebody can shoot a scoped rifle why couldn't they accurately shoot a scoped crossbow? Unless they were just exhausted from carrying that gaudy thing around.

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#3069103 - 12/08/12 09:06 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: cecil30-30]
Vermin93
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: Vermin93
2 straight months of blaze orange is enough already! No mas!
Theres that elitiest bow hunting attitude rearing its ugly head again..


Except I also hunt with a muzzleloader....and a rifle....and wear blaze orange....for 2 months....which is plenty of time for me, you, the deer and anybody else.


Edited by Vermin93 (12/08/12 09:24 AM)
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