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#3074491 - 12/11/12 02:29 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: BSK]
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You are an excellent resource and great member of tndeer.

I just want to say that TN would never go to a shorter, all weapons system lol

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#3074505 - 12/11/12 02:35 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: UTGrad]
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
I just want to say that TN would never go to a shorter, all weapons system lol


It wouldn't need to be shorter, just adjust bag limits to prevent over-harvest.

Although I agree. We will probably never see just "deer season," with weapon choice up to the hunter. Bow and MZ seasons are too deeply ingrained now. They have become part of the traditions of the state, whether they are biologically needed or not.
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#3074511 - 12/11/12 02:39 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: UTGrad]
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Oh yeah i believe you that's why i want to lower it any way. Noone out of our group has ever tagged out
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#3074518 - 12/11/12 02:42 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: deerhunter10]
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I am not so concerned with the bow hunting discussion.

However, I would much prefer rifle season to begin Nov 1. I hate carrying a MZ to the woods during the best hunting of the year in my area.

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#3074520 - 12/11/12 02:45 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: Outdoor Enthusiast]
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 Originally Posted By: Outdoor Enthusiast
However, I would much prefer rifle season to begin Nov 1. I hate carrying a MZ to the woods during the best hunting of the year in my area.


I would love to see every hunter able to hunt the peak of the rut in their local area with the weapon of their choice. And for TN, it appears the peak of breeding occurs over a range of dates from early November through early January, depending on the location.
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#3074523 - 12/11/12 02:50 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: BSK]
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I am not a fan of an all weapon season. However if that is what the people want then the people that don't will have to deal with it. I will say this back in bow season i wish i would have had a gun i would had killed my biggest buck ever but he skirted me. But that is the fun of bow season!!
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#3074529 - 12/11/12 02:53 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: deerhunter10]
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 Originally Posted By: deerhunter10
But that is the fun of bow season!!


I'm not sure I would call it "fun" (being forced to watch a buck of a lifetime walk by out of bow-range), but I can easily say I learned more about deer behavior and woodsmanship skills from bow hunting than any other type of hunting. All my years of bow-hunting were a great learning experience.
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#3074534 - 12/11/12 02:56 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: deerhunter10
Suppose we went to it what would you think the bag limit would be?


I have no idea. But I think it would be smart to lower it more than you think is needed for the first year, for safety sake, and then once participation and hunter harvest were assessed for a few years, slowly liberalize the limits up to the maximum number of deer allowable without doing harm.

But even with the very long seasons we have now, I think most hunters would find it shocking just how few deer are currently being taken under our liberal limits and long seasons.

A few "amazing" facts:

Only 1/3 of deer hunters in TN kill even one buck in a given year.

Only around 45% of hunters kill even one deer in a given year.

Only a tiny percentage of deer hunters (a few percent) kill 3 bucks in a given year.

Even in Unit L, where the doe limit is three per day for over 3 months, doe harvests often don't equal buck harvest. It is very common in Unit L counties for buck kills to still outnumber doe kills, even with an annual bag limit disparity of 300+ does to 3 bucks.


I know this is true from reading past TWRA Harvest reports. I try to keep it in mind too when reacting to discussions about reducing the buck limits as it's obvious that reducing the buck limit would have no real impact whatsoever. Still sometimes I react emotionally to those game hogs killing all the big bucks! ;\)

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#3074538 - 12/11/12 03:01 PM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: BSK]
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It is fun atleast to me! I mean it's a giant chess match with big deer. As i have stated over and over on here to me it's not about the kill some of my best hunts ever i never even got the bow or gun off the hook. It's about the experience. Bow hunting is a blast but don't get me wrong by ml season i am ready to hang up the bow, but i would never vote to go all weapons all the time.
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#3075308 - 12/12/12 04:50 AM Re: Should TN Go to All Weapons Season? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: deerhunter10
Plus if we go to all weapon season do you not think our deer herd would take a big hit?? I am asking in all honestly i know you the biologist.


That would have to be monitored very closely. I suspect bag limits would need to be reduced to prevent over-harvest during a 3+ month any-weapon season.


Then that is yet another reason I wouldn't be for it. Folks are gonna keep on complaining till they get something they really don't want imo. The season/weapon/bag limits are fine the way they are.

And remember, this is an SE Tn guy talking here, not a 3 doe a day unit hunter. I saw 3 does yesterday evening right at dark, and I count that as a good day in the woods. ;\)
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