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#3065739 - 12/06/12 07:37 AM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I knew you would see the reality of it Wes.

When you think about it, it really isn't that much per day over a 6 month period. For a larger property, it will take a day and a half to two days per week to drive to and from the property, check each camera, swap cards, and most likely move every camera. Then download all of the pictures onto computer, and assess every picture (potentially thousands of pictures per week), entering each picture's data (location, time, date, what's in the picture) into databases, identifying every buck in every picture and enter each buck's data into databases, and finally analyzing all that data.

Next subtract your expenses for purchasing and maintaining cameras (batteries are not cheap), as well as gas to and from the project. Lastly, divide what is left of the fee after expenses by the 40-50 work days you spend on the project over 6 months. What it comes out to is income per day that is pretty close to what someone making 30-35K per year makes per work-day.
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#3066495 - 12/06/12 04:10 PM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: BSK]
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This above deer and another one came to wish me a Merry Christmas this year, but I was duck hunting on the same farm at the time.



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#3066602 - 12/06/12 05:23 PM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: Southern Sportsman]
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Nice bucks!
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#3066612 - 12/06/12 05:30 PM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Some people enjoy spending money (and have a lot of it to spend). Some people take pride in spending whatever it takes to have the best of everything. I like working for those kind of people. ;\)

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Would also add that some people have several thousand acres, and we're not talking about doing a deer inventory on the typical Middle TN family farm.


Good point. How many cams do you set out on 1000+ acre farms, bsk?

I can also see the expense adding up for you. Even the initial cost of cameras would be high... To top it all off, its gotta be boring looking through all of those monster buck pics \:\) \:\)
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#3066621 - 12/06/12 05:39 PM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: Master Chief]
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Some people enjoy spending money (and have a lot of it to spend). Some people take pride in spending whatever it takes to have the best of everything. I like working for those kind of people. ;\)

\:\)
Would also add that some people have several thousand acres, and we're not talking about doing a deer inventory on the typical Middle TN family farm.


Good point. How many cams do you set out on 1000+ acre farms, bsk?


I would want at least 12. 15 would be better.


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I can also see the expense adding up for you. Even the initial cost of cameras would be high... To top it all off, its gotta be boring looking through all of those monster buck pics \:\) \:\)


The boring part is not the monster bucks. It is trying to decide if a particular pictured yearling spike is spike #18 or spike #34. Spike #34 has slightly more sweep to his cowhorns...

The really, really boring part is entering all the data in the databases. Picture #4,053 has two does and a fawn in it. Picture #4,054 has two does and a fawn in it, picture #4055 has two does and a fawn in it...

The fun part is analyzing the data. How many unique bucks are there and what is the buck age structure? How is the age structure different this year than last year, and the year before? When was each buck first picked up on camera? Is there a pattern to when bucks on this particular property "show up" and "disappear?" Is there a pattern in the days each individual buck is photographed? What's the average gross score of each age-class of buck? What percent of bucks are showing up year after year?
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#3066631 - 12/06/12 05:45 PM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Some people enjoy spending money (and have a lot of it to spend). Some people take pride in spending whatever it takes to have the best of everything. I like working for those kind of people. ;\)

\:\)
Would also add that some people have several thousand acres, and we're not talking about doing a deer inventory on the typical Middle TN family farm.


Good point. How many cams do you set out on 1000+ acre farms, bsk?


I would want at least 12. 15 would be better.


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I can also see the expense adding up for you. Even the initial cost of cameras would be high... To top it all off, its gotta be boring looking through all of those monster buck pics \:\) \:\)


The boring part is not the monster bucks. It is trying to decide if a particular pictured yearling spike is spike #18 or spike #34. Spike #34 has slightly more sweep to his cowhorns...

The really, really boring part is entering all the data in the databases. Picture #4,053 has two does and a fawn in it. Picture #4,054 has two does and a fawn in it, picture #4055 has two does and a fawn in it...


I can imagine. Especially when its 1000 pictures of the same deer.
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#3067448 - 12/07/12 07:50 AM Re: The agony of defeat [Re: Master Chief]
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Exactly. But playing with the data is a lot of fun. At least it is for me, but then I love data, data, and more data.
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