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#3063285 - 12/04/12 03:19 PM Recording of glottal pulse?
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Does anybody know where I can find an audio or video recording of a deer "clicking" (glottal pulse)? I have searched and cannot find any recordings, and most all of the written material comes from our own bowriter.

I want to confirm that what I heard throughout the day on Saturday was deer clicking. I was hunting a swamp stand in REALLY thick stuff (cannot see the ground at all in many places) interspersed with narrow openings and lanes (dry oxbows/creek beds). From about 10:30 a.m. to 3 or 4 p.m. I heard clicking series off and on coming from thick areas, sometimes in one patch, later in another. Sometimes it would last for a few seconds, sometimes longer; someimes I wouldn't hear it for half an hour, sometimes every few minutes. A few times, I even thought it must have been two different deer because it came from opposite directions in such a short span of time. However, the only deer I saw was a lone doe that a duck hunter jumped out of a canebreak near sunrise.

The sound was the same one I have always atributed to a buck tending a doe, but there was so much of it for so long without me ever spotting a deer that now I am questioning the source.

I appreciate it if anyone can link or send me a recording of deer clicking/glottal pulse, or a call that mimicks it.

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#3063323 - 12/04/12 03:39 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Hill Country Hunter]
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I saw/heard one doing it in Cades Cove several years ago. It was weird and wild. He was chasing a doe and she used us as a pic in a field. Only time that I have witnessed it.
Can't help on video/audio though.
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#3063327 - 12/04/12 03:43 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Hill Country Hunter]
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If it sounded like the clicking of a grunt but without the low pitched voice of a grunt, and was in swampy area as you said, my money is on upland chorus frogs. I was hunting a low area by a lake and the occasional chorus frog would click a couple times here and there. It would get me because I thought it was a grunt at first, but the frogs have a high pitched resonance ascending in pitch. Wait till February when thy are screaming in full swing, very loud for a frog that's less than an inch long.
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#3063466 - 12/04/12 04:38 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: catman529]
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Highly unlikely it is frogs. Either deer or cougars. Once you hear it, you will recognize it immediately. If youo have ever heard elk clicking (they do it often), just about the same. Click your thumb nail over a large comb tooth. Very close.
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#3063473 - 12/04/12 04:42 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: bowriter]
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Maybe you heard a buck frog they are chasing right now.
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#3063481 - 12/04/12 04:46 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: jar]
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lol. I know what a chorus frog sounds like and when you hear one clicking by itself it almost sounds like a buck grunt at first. I just heard em this weekend. With the amount of frogs in some swamp there must be a few booners in there....
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#3063485 - 12/04/12 04:48 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: catman529]
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probably as frog
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#3063506 - 12/04/12 05:04 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: redblood]
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Catman, the clicking sounds nothing like a grunt at all. It sounds like a click. A tree frog can make a sound similar to a doe grunt with a clicking sound. But it is nothing like that.
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#3063545 - 12/04/12 05:37 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: bowriter]
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I don't mean treefrogs. They sound nothing like upland chorus frogs. The bucks grunting I have heard had a sort of clicking grunt but you could hear the deeper tones that you don't in the frogs. The clicking is not the same in the frogs and deer, but just slightly resembling in certain cases like when I was hunting the thick bottom land past weekend.
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#3063549 - 12/04/12 05:39 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: catman529]
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I feel like this is getting too complicated... Just saying what the OP described sounded just like the frogs I heard while hunting over the weekend.
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#3063567 - 12/04/12 05:49 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: catman529]
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#3063577 - 12/04/12 05:54 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: bowriter]
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Just speaking from my personal experience BW and not saying anything is fact. I'm just guessing what OP heard was chorus frogs
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#3063599 - 12/04/12 06:07 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: catman529]
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I've heard bucks making the clicking sound more than I've heard the actual text book grunt sound. It has usually been a young buck the majority of the time that's made the clicking sound. I've had them right on top of me making that clicking sound several times that's how I know it was young bucks...

Edited by Hollar Hunter (12/04/12 06:07 PM)
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#3063625 - 12/04/12 06:26 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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I've heard the clicking sound you're talking about and mimick it often when I call. A low key single syllable click or pop sound usually sounded in a series by a buck following or tending a doe. I can't help you with what you actually heard because I've never heard it for extended periods.
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#3064088 - 12/05/12 01:11 AM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Mike Belt]
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Here is a recording of what it sounds like:

http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/practical_bowhunter/deergrunting/ragenbuck.wav
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#3064116 - 12/05/12 04:39 AM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Sure you are right, what the help do I know?


Dang John, just because you have a book in the bible doesn't mean your God.

Btw, catman I know what you are talking about.

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#3064442 - 12/05/12 09:38 AM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: smyrnagc]
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 Originally Posted By: smyrnagc


What I heard was in between that recording of deer and this one of upland chorus frogs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG1wGSIqGR4. The tone, while perhaps not quite as low as the buck above, was closer to that. More significantly, there was none of the musical, repetitive, low-high-low rising and falling tone of the frog. Instead, it was a mono-toned clicking sound in series with a varying duration/number of clicks.

I posted because I have been thinking it had to be frogs, because I still just cannot imagine that for hours on end there were either multiple deer stationary, or else one pair that moved around, all close enough for me to hear the glottal pulse--but without me ever catching a glimpse of them.

Well, either way, it kept me alert and anticipating something stepping out all afternoon and kept me in the stand for a beautiful day in the woods.

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#3064457 - 12/05/12 09:52 AM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Hill Country Hunter]
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I bet it was frogs because the recording of frogs would be during their breeding time when they all are calling at full volume. Right now, one frog here or there will occasionally call and it sounds much more like clicking. The ones I heard over the weekend were not like the one I hear in February and march but I've heard them enough times to know exactly what it is when I hear it.
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#3064532 - 12/05/12 10:48 AM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: catman529]
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The "clicking" sound I've heard bucks make was not the sound in that recording.
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#3064829 - 12/05/12 02:10 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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Very likely frogs, as a buck excited enough to make this sound is normally actively tending a doe and moving around quite a bit. Chances they stayed for hours and never showed themselves or made a ruckus is highly unlikely! I think Catman nailed this one!
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#3064856 - 12/05/12 02:29 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Winchester]
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I've heard mature bucks sound more like an alligator than a deer. Guess any animal COULD make an unusual sound.
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#3064980 - 12/05/12 03:47 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Very likely frogs, as a buck excited enough to make this sound is normally actively tending a doe and moving around quite a bit. Chances they stayed for hours and never showed themselves or made a ruckus is highly unlikely! I think Catman nailed this one!


Actually, it has little to do with the rut at all. It is much more of a cohesive call than rut oriented. You hear it most often with groups of deer involvinmg does and younguns.
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#3065105 - 12/05/12 05:27 PM Re: Recording of glottal pulse? [Re: ]
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Yeah swamp hunter I try and always remember I do t know it all but have known about chorus frogs for a long time, way before I got into hunting I have been into the outdoors. If I hadn't heard those frogs clicking last weekend I wouldn't be having most of this conversation because the sound was fresh in my head. Oh and I don't usually argue with Bowriter because of his experience but if I do argue the I'm pretty darn sure of what im talking about... Doesn't mean I'm always right but I do know a few things here and there...
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