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#3061389 - 12/03/12 02:42 PM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: ]
Hardwoodmaterials
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Registered: 09/14/11
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Me and the guys on our lease in Lewis Co. just started seeing some chasing starting Friday and the bucks have really been on the move for the last couple days. We wasn't seeing any rut activity at all when everyone else was talking about how great it was in their part of the state.
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#3061467 - 12/03/12 03:46 PM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: Hardwoodmaterials]
ROVERBOY
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Its been kinda strange here in Clay County, because most guys haven't seen a lot of deer. But, there have been some good deer killed though. I've seen about 7 different bucks so far, and none have been the ones I've got on trail cam. I've not got to hunt as much as I usually do this time. I've not found many rubs this time for some reason, which is weird. I don't know, maybe things will get better.
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#3061701 - 12/03/12 06:04 PM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: bowriter]
BONE-HEAD
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Registered: 10/21/12
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agree hunt where their is food they after the rut their not going far from food IMO
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#3062250 - 12/03/12 10:03 PM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: BONE-HEAD]
OnceMoreIntoTheFray
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Never really saw rut activity here in smith county.
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#3062394 - 12/04/12 05:10 AM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: BSK]
MUP
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: 2champish
what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then?


I wish I knew (for killing older bucks). We never see or kill older bucks post-rut. Basically, if you haven't gotten one in November, you're SOL on my place.


About the same in my area Bryan. I've only once seen a good mature buck after Nov and it was following a doe on New Years Day in 2000. I missed my opportunity at it too.
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#3062503 - 12/04/12 07:19 AM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: MUP]
BSK
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: 2champish
what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then?


I wish I knew (for killing older bucks). We never see or kill older bucks post-rut. Basically, if you haven't gotten one in November, you're SOL on my place.


About the same in my area Bryan. I've only once seen a good mature buck after Nov and it was following a doe on New Years Day in 2000. I missed my opportunity at it too.


On my property, there is a very short window for having the best odds of seeing/killing a 3 1/2+ buck. That window is the cruising phase which occurs just before peak breeding. Looking at hunter observations over the past, a hunter on my place has about 9 days to see/kill a 3 1/2+ buck, from Nov. 4-12. Before and after that, 3 1/2+ buck sightings are exceedingly rare.
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#3062504 - 12/04/12 07:20 AM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: MUP]
jar
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Last year in Rutherford county I saw more chasing in Dec. than I did in Nov. Scrapes on my place were freshened up last year in Dec. Put a camera on a new one yesterday.
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#3062622 - 12/04/12 09:00 AM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: BSK]
recurve60#
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
so your saying all the does got bred in their first cycle if thats the case you have way more bucks than does.


Even in areas with more does than bucks, the vast majority of does get bred their first cycle. From what I have seen biologically, the "2nd rut" is more of a chemically induced "false" rut than a real rut, in that although bucks show a distinct peak in chasing about a month after the peak of breeding, few actual conceptions result.

But yes, locally we have about 0.8 does per buck, and the sex ratio has been that way (very locally) for a couple of years.




From a males point of view your bucks are going somewhere else for the second rut then.
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#3062624 - 12/04/12 09:02 AM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: recurve60#]
recurve60#
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Well I know I would..lol
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#3062877 - 12/04/12 11:45 AM Re: rut over in middle TN counties? [Re: recurve60#]
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 Originally Posted By: recurve60#
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: knightrider
 Originally Posted By: BSK
Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
so your saying all the does got bred in their first cycle if thats the case you have way more bucks than does.


Even in areas with more does than bucks, the vast majority of does get bred their first cycle. From what I have seen biologically, the "2nd rut" is more of a chemically induced "false" rut than a real rut, in that although bucks show a distinct peak in chasing about a month after the peak of breeding, few actual conceptions result.

But yes, locally we have about 0.8 does per buck, and the sex ratio has been that way (very locally) for a couple of years.




From a males point of view your bucks are going somewhere else for the second rut then.


HA! Surprisingly, they don't leave. They just go VERY nocturnal. \:\(
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