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#3062347 - 12/04/12 03:04 AM AndyS
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How much do your 250 gr. Bullets drop from100 to 200 yds with your smokeless load
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#3062526 - 12/04/12 07:51 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Rockhound]
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My gun is set 1.5" high at 50 yards, 2.25" high at 100 yards, dead on at 150 yards and dropping 5.6" at 200 yards. I have not field checked the 200 yard drop yet due to time constraints and the fact I rarely hunt with a MZer where I can see beyond 100 yards. I plan to do some more testing of loads and check the drop out to 200 yards in January after season ends. Hope this helps.
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#3062532 - 12/04/12 07:55 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Andy S.]
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I keep this little chart on my Savage for reference while hunting. I hope to one day learn these ballistics good enough where it is ingrained in my head, thus not needing to look and verify.

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#3062563 - 12/04/12 08:12 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Andy S.]
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Thanks! I am going to mess with mine after season also just wanted an idea
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#3062708 - 12/04/12 09:50 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Rockhound]
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AndyS>

What load are you shooting?

Thanks!

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#3062722 - 12/04/12 10:02 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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not andy but im pretty sure i remember him saying he was shooting 43gr of imr sr 4759 and a 250 gr. sst
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#3062744 - 12/04/12 10:16 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Rockhound]
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good deal thanks.

I need to get a Chrono on mind. If I had a better place to shoot I think I would enjoy testing some. Right now it will kill a deer, but it's so much fun to shoot I wouldnt mind tinkering a bit with it.

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#3062823 - 12/04/12 11:12 AM Re: AndyS [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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Rockhound nailed it. I am shooting 43 grains of SR4759 out of the plastic jug, pushing a 250 grain SST and I am using the red sabot that comes with the bullets. It chronoed at 2100 fps. I have some other sabots to experiment with and I plan to shoot up to 48-49 grains (try to find 2300 fps) to see if it will hold a pattern or blow sabots. I hope this helps.
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#3062918 - 12/04/12 12:03 PM Re: AndyS [Re: Andy S.]
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Hmmm wonder if there will be any difference in speed with a true high pressure sabot?
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#3062938 - 12/04/12 12:13 PM Re: AndyS [Re: Rockhound]
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I do not currently know how it will play out in my case, but I hope and plan to experiment with MMP and RCR sabots in January to see what, if any difference it makes. The gentleman who got me started in smokeless (ewc) told me from the start that my gun may shoot the red sabots fine considering I was not trying to push them to max speeds, and he was dead on. My load has shot great in my gun at the range and in the deer woods up to this point, thus the reason I have not been inclined to go messing with things. I'll know more in January and I'll post up my findings.
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#3062939 - 12/04/12 12:13 PM Re: AndyS [Re: Rockhound]
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Andy, what's your loading pressure like? Rough estimate in lbs.
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#3062962 - 12/04/12 12:22 PM Re: AndyS [Re: Rubberduck270]
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I have never measured it (attempted to once but my house scales were not conducive), but I can say for certain that my load is not that hard to push down the barrel. It does not just fall in by any means, but it does not seem to be as hard and strenuous as others have described on Doug's and other forums I have read. I am currently in the market for some cheap scales to measure this so I'll know what my pressure is. Is there a specific kind of scale someone would like to recommend or will just any cheap bathroom "dial" scale work? The electronic scales I have at home require one to stand on them for 5-6 seconds before it will give you a digital readout.
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#3062976 - 12/04/12 12:28 PM Re: AndyS [Re: Andy S.]
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Cheap bathroom scales work best from what I've heard. Seems like the harder to load the better performance but with my H&R conversion it's not too awful hard to load. I'm gonna play with knurling more in the off season and see if I can really get it dialed in. I've got a Savage ML-II that needs glass and load work as well.

Rockhound, are you still experimenting with the 300 gr. HP Hornady's?
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