#3061144 - 12/03/12 11:52 AM
rut over in middle TN counties?
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is the rut over in middle tennessee counties? if so when will the second rut begin
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#3061150 - 12/03/12 12:00 PM
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hasnt even started yet in southern middle tn
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#3061161 - 12/03/12 12:07 PM
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Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
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#3061172 - 12/03/12 12:13 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then?
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#3061173 - 12/03/12 12:13 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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seems like it is over in western maury county, probably is over in williamson too because it was best during ML season, not sure about eastern maury county as I haven't seen any action there and only hunted twice there lately
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#3061180 - 12/03/12 12:16 PM
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not even close to over in lincoln.just now getting good
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#3061190 - 12/03/12 12:21 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then?
I wish I knew (for killing older bucks). We never see or kill older bucks post-rut. Basically, if you haven't gotten one in November, you're SOL on my place.
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#3061295 - 12/03/12 01:47 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
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#3061315 - 12/03/12 02:00 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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I would say it is over in Rutherford and most of Wilson. Generally we do get a 2nd rut but if you blink you may miss it.
big bucks post rut are hard. I would try to figure out where he is bedding, and with a favorable wind hunt just outside that area.
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#3061323 - 12/03/12 02:02 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
so your saying all the does got bred in their first cycle if thats the case you have way more bucks than does.
Even in areas with more does than bucks, the vast majority of does get bred their first cycle. From what I have seen biologically, the "2nd rut" is more of a chemically induced "false" rut than a real rut, in that although bucks show a distinct peak in chasing about a month after the peak of breeding, few actual conceptions result.
But yes, locally we have about 0.8 does per buck, and the sex ratio has been that way (very locally) for a couple of years.
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#3061374 - 12/03/12 02:29 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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Dang; you guys are starving the old boys to death. LOL
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#3061387 - 12/03/12 02:41 PM
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what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then?
Since deer don't smoke, they crave food instead. In an intense rut, bucks can lose up to 30% of their body weight. When it is over, they are hungry. Hunt food sources. Unfortunately, by the time the rut is over, many of the mature bucks are nocturnal. This is when good woodland food sources are the most productive.
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#3061389 - 12/03/12 02:42 PM
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Me and the guys on our lease in Lewis Co. just started seeing some chasing starting Friday and the bucks have really been on the move for the last couple days. We wasn't seeing any rut activity at all when everyone else was talking about how great it was in their part of the state.
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#3061467 - 12/03/12 03:46 PM
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Its been kinda strange here in Clay County, because most guys haven't seen a lot of deer. But, there have been some good deer killed though. I've seen about 7 different bucks so far, and none have been the ones I've got on trail cam. I've not got to hunt as much as I usually do this time. I've not found many rubs this time for some reason, which is weird. I don't know, maybe things will get better.
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#3061701 - 12/03/12 06:04 PM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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agree hunt where their is food they after the rut their not going far from food IMO
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#3062250 - 12/03/12 10:03 PM
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Never really saw rut activity here in smith county.
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#3062394 - 12/04/12 05:10 AM
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what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then? I wish I knew (for killing older bucks). We never see or kill older bucks post-rut. Basically, if you haven't gotten one in November, you're SOL on my place.
About the same in my area Bryan. I've only once seen a good mature buck after Nov and it was following a doe on New Years Day in 2000. I missed my opportunity at it too. 
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#3062503 - 12/04/12 07:19 AM
Re: rut over in middle TN counties?
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what is the best way to hunt bucks after the rut is over in your area then? I wish I knew (for killing older bucks). We never see or kill older bucks post-rut. Basically, if you haven't gotten one in November, you're SOL on my place. About the same in my area Bryan. I've only once seen a good mature buck after Nov and it was following a doe on New Years Day in 2000. I missed my opportunity at it too.
On my property, there is a very short window for having the best odds of seeing/killing a 3 1/2+ buck. That window is the cruising phase which occurs just before peak breeding. Looking at hunter observations over the past, a hunter on my place has about 9 days to see/kill a 3 1/2+ buck, from Nov. 4-12. Before and after that, 3 1/2+ buck sightings are exceedingly rare.
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#3062504 - 12/04/12 07:20 AM
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Last year in Rutherford county I saw more chasing in Dec. than I did in Nov. Scrapes on my place were freshened up last year in Dec. Put a camera on a new one yesterday.
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#3062622 - 12/04/12 09:00 AM
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Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
so your saying all the does got bred in their first cycle if thats the case you have way more bucks than does. Even in areas with more does than bucks, the vast majority of does get bred their first cycle. From what I have seen biologically, the "2nd rut" is more of a chemically induced "false" rut than a real rut, in that although bucks show a distinct peak in chasing about a month after the peak of breeding, few actual conceptions result. But yes, locally we have about 0.8 does per buck, and the sex ratio has been that way (very locally) for a couple of years.
From a males point of view your bucks are going somewhere else for the second rut then.  
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#3062624 - 12/04/12 09:02 AM
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Well I know I would..lol
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#3062877 - 12/04/12 11:45 AM
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Rut is just about completely over in my area (western Humphreys County). We have no second rut.
so your saying all the does got bred in their first cycle if thats the case you have way more bucks than does. Even in areas with more does than bucks, the vast majority of does get bred their first cycle. From what I have seen biologically, the "2nd rut" is more of a chemically induced "false" rut than a real rut, in that although bucks show a distinct peak in chasing about a month after the peak of breeding, few actual conceptions result. But yes, locally we have about 0.8 does per buck, and the sex ratio has been that way (very locally) for a couple of years. From a males point of view your bucks are going somewhere else for the second rut then.
HA! Surprisingly, they don't leave. They just go VERY nocturnal. 
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#3063064 - 12/04/12 01:10 PM
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We seem to always have a second surge of chasing right around Christmas in Northern Lincoln Co.
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#3063127 - 12/04/12 01:49 PM
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I'm betting the 2nd rut will be starting anytime now in Rutherford Co. - 28 days after rutting activing was first sighted.
I've seen decent 3rd rut activity in the past on one farm I hunt....killed a pretty nice 8 pt. a several yrs back right around the first of Jan. that was hot on a doe (back when the gun season was a week longer).
Edited by Puckett Creek (12/04/12 02:06 PM)
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#3063297 - 12/04/12 03:25 PM
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hasnt even started yet in southern middle tn
Just started about a week ago on our farm in Lawrence county. A little later than usual.
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#3063441 - 12/04/12 04:26 PM
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Last year in Rutherford county I saw more chasing in Dec. than I did in Nov. Scrapes on my place were freshened up last year in Dec. Put a camera on a new one yesterday.
where are you hunting at in Rutherford. I am hunting near Readyville, but this is my first year, so I am just learning the deer. Scrapes have been dry on my place for a week or so, but I feel like we may get a second dose here pretty soon if it cools down some.
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#3063447 - 12/04/12 04:29 PM
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I'm betting the 2nd rut will be starting anytime now in Rutherford Co. - 28 days after rutting activing was first sighted.
I've seen decent 3rd rut activity in the past on one farm I hunt....killed a pretty nice 8 pt. a several yrs back right around the first of Jan. that was hot on a doe (back when the gun season was a week longer).
HMM was going to go to Giles this weekend, to give my place a break, but may have to change my mind. BTW the gun season is back to its old length this year. It closes on Jan. 6th. Juvenile part 2 on the 12th and 13th.
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#3064580 - 12/05/12 11:17 AM
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i hope so havent much luck in boonshill
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#3065803 - 12/06/12 08:23 AM
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