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#3057105 - 11/30/12 03:25 PM what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014
skippy1
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what changes would you like to see in 2013 - 2014 deer season?


stop all baiting 10 days before season for everyone. its not right that a person can bait his land year around just to keep all the game on his land and he dont hunt just keeping the game to watch. let move around

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#3057150 - 11/30/12 04:10 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: skippy1]
TNGunsmoke
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I would like to see the restriction on harvest of Albino deer removed. Won't happen, but I'd like it none the less.
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#3057163 - 11/30/12 04:28 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: TNGunsmoke]
letsgohunting
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Be able to use shotgun w/ slugs durning bow season or allow use of bait durning bow season only. Something that will allow more deer 2b havested durning bow season.
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#3057186 - 11/30/12 04:45 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: letsgohunting]
Eric Kilby
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shotgun during archery is never going to happen defies the point of the season.. maybe during muzzleloader season
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#3057238 - 11/30/12 05:31 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Eric Kilby]
Dolan82
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I second skippy and gunsmoke. Other than that I think Twra is doing a good job.

I do not agree with using a shotgun during archery or muzzleloader. They are there own season for a reason. Just my .02

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#3057245 - 11/30/12 05:34 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Dolan82]
cecil30-30
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I'd like to see morgan co put in unit A as always and I'd like to see twra make it illegal to feed deer altogether..No 10 day bullcrap or some dumb 250yd rule..Just illegal!!! PERIOD.
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#3057253 - 11/30/12 05:41 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: cecil30-30]
muskyhunter
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give the cumberland plateau counties a BEAR SEASON
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#3057290 - 11/30/12 06:06 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: muskyhunter]
dsa5455
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Maybe a one doe a day limit in Dekalb county during gun season. Neighboring counties get 3 a day. But there seems to be a lot of does running around there when I have hunted on occasions.
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#3057583 - 11/30/12 09:03 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: dsa5455]
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Telecheck.
2 buck limit.
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#3057596 - 11/30/12 09:09 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: RUGER]
timberjack86
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Legalize baiting or completly do away with feeding of wildlife. More does for Grundy, and extend deer season till the end of January.
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#3057599 - 11/30/12 09:10 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: RUGER]
Howa
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I'd like to see a 2 buck limit total with only 1 buck taken during each of the three seasons, archery, ML, and gun, not to exceed 2 bucks total for the season.
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#3057628 - 11/30/12 09:23 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Howa]
KPH
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I say leave good enough alone. I fuse about the baiting but that woun't change for a lot of reasons. Tenn has got one of the best deer programs. When I was a mere child there was no deer in Henry co. now look at it. Heck back then if you wanted to hunt deer most likly you went out west.
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#3057668 - 11/30/12 09:44 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Howa]
SEC
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 Originally Posted By: Howa
I'd like to see a 2 buck limit total with only 1 buck taken during each of the three seasons, archery, ML, and gun, not to exceed 2 bucks total for the season.
That is the best idea I have seen all night. I would also like to see about a two week break in our gun season. Everything could use a break from time to time. What few deer I have seen lately are walking around on pins and needles they know that every step could be there last. I nominate Howa for president.

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#3057752 - 11/30/12 11:25 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Howa]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: Howa
I'd like to see a 2 buck limit total with only 1 buck taken during each of the three seasons, archery, ML, and gun, not to exceed 2 bucks total for the season.


it was like that for several years in east tennessee. it SUCKED!!!
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#3057791 - 12/01/12 04:14 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
Swampster
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I would like to see handgun(revolver) to overlap the last week of archery and first week of muzzleloader. Probably .357mag and up with barrel length between 6" & 10".
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#3057805 - 12/01/12 05:00 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Swampster]
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The real question.......how many of you will take the time to list your concerns where it really matters? The TWRC makes the rules, not TWRA. If you want a change, take it to them. These guys on here will be one voice, and the voice of underlings at that. They have to follow what the TWRC says, not vice versa. You however can be many voices to TWRC. Call them with your concerns, they will never see them here.
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#3057876 - 12/01/12 07:15 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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Don't get too worked up just yet either. The time to submit suggestions begins January 15th. All those submitted to TWRA that go through the proper submission procedure get compiled and go directly to the TFWC as part of the standard process.
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#3057900 - 12/01/12 07:34 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
rem270
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Only changes id like to see is people who gripe about harvest limits and talk bad about TWRA all the time kicked in the nuts and lose there hunting privileges for a year \:\)

Dang im a grinch this close to christmas \:D

Not pointing my opinion toward anyone on this thread just others in general over the last few yrs ive read
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#3057972 - 12/01/12 08:34 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: rem270]
pressfit
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Id like to see a little more effort put into the leased dove fields.. I realize its a big money maker for the twra.. the more land you have leased to more liscenses you sell.. but to lease a field, have 100 guys sit there all day long.. bake in the sun.. and only about 3 of them fire a shot.. come on.. I have seen it happen too many times..
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#3058087 - 12/01/12 10:08 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: pressfit]
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I'd like to see TWRA MAKE NO CHANGES for at least TWO freakin consecutive years.

And add TELECHECK!

Also, hey, if TWRA wants more does killed, then add doe kills for the ENTIRE season in Unit A.

Quit all the from this date to that date for doe day stuff.

It is so confusing.

SIMPLIFY SIMPLIFY SIMPLIFY.
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#3058109 - 12/01/12 10:27 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: pressfit]
BigGameGuy
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 Originally Posted By: pressfit
Id like to see a little more effort put into the leased dove fields.. I realize its a big money maker for the twra..


The dove field program actually costs the agency $100,000 per year. Keep in mind, we pay the landowner for leasing the field. I am sure there may be a few people who by a license only to hunt doves but I doubt that accounts for $100,000.
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#3058120 - 12/01/12 10:37 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 102]
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Increase the buck limit to at least 4. This would keep more hunters in the field and could be used to increase the harvest in areas where an increase is needed.

Do away with the one buck a day rule.
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#3058212 - 12/01/12 11:55 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
rem270
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Only thing i would change is to go to all online or telecheck.

Do away with the gas stations who half of them dont know what in the heck there doing.
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#3058240 - 12/01/12 12:21 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: letsgohunting]
Southern Sportsman
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 Originally Posted By: letsgohunting
Be able to use shotgun w/ slugs durning bow season


So you want to do away with bow season and go straight into gun? We already allow cross bows for everybody so you don't even have to practice shooting before season or draw back on a deer, now you want to bow hunt with a shotgun?

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#3058288 - 12/01/12 01:43 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Southern Sportsman]
ImThere
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A buck is a buck if its got balls it counts toward you bag limit
Do away with the one buck per day
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#3058302 - 12/01/12 02:10 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ImThere]
muzzle
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Allow baiting or not allow baiting. It needs to be black and white no more of this you have to be 251 yds away and cant see the bait crap. 2 bucks total, cannot exceed 1 buck per weapon. More doe opportunties in Unit A and Unit B.
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#3058339 - 12/01/12 02:47 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ImThere]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: ImThere
A buck is a buck if its got balls it counts toward you bag limit



if they count as a buck, they should be legal during "buck only" hunting.
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#3058380 - 12/01/12 03:24 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
SES
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I'm just thankful I get to go hunting every now and then. I don't remember ever thinking to myself in my stand while the sun starts making that eastern sky glow, "I sure wish Tennessee had a one buck limit or I wish I could shoot 2 bucks today instead of just one". Be thankful for what you got or move to another state that will meet your wants. If all you got to worry about is the bag limits, you need to fall on your knees and thank God!!
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#3058396 - 12/01/12 03:39 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you
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#3058413 - 12/01/12 03:53 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
SEC
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you
You tell em BowGirl to many bucks are not living to see there 3rd birthday.

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#3058422 - 12/01/12 04:03 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?
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#3058441 - 12/01/12 04:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
BowGirl
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


What info?

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#3058454 - 12/01/12 04:23 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
jar
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Go to a one buck limit and not so many weeks of gun season. The season can last into Jan but give the deer a break like they use to with archery only for 2 weeks in Dec. Also if you kill a yearling buck you cant hunt for 2 years. HAHA just calm down.
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#3058514 - 12/01/12 05:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
EastTNHunter
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Make it illegal to kill a buck over 3.5 yr old so that the old ones can live, lol! Make bow season recurve or long bow only so that the real bow hunters will have the woods to themselves and not have to hear the whining from the elitist 60 yd compound bow hunters... stir, stir.
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#3058518 - 12/01/12 05:06 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


What info?
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#3058530 - 12/01/12 05:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: skippy1]
Buzzard Breath
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Although this has nothing to do with the deer season, I would like to see the elk auction tag turned into a draw tag. I'm 99% against auction tags because they remove the oportunity from the 10,000+ applicants that pay their $15 for the very limited oportunity and award it to only those that can afford it. Why handicap the sportsmen that pay >$150,000+just to reward the one person that can pay the <$7,000 for the tag.

However, the 1% of me that is not against auction tags, thinks TWRA should auction of some of the better duck blinds. It appears that these things are being bought and sold anyways. Why not capitalize on this and auction some off? Since there is no way to effectivelly enforce the selling of them, they should go ahead and make some money from it.

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#3058534 - 12/01/12 05:14 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
BowGirl
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


What info?

Check station data

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#3058758 - 12/01/12 07:44 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
TheAirMan
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Telecheck. Also, allow every hunter at least one doe during gun season. I know a line has to be drawn somewhere. However, there is a place I hunt where I can't legally kill one doe all of gun season but like a mile away people can kill 3 a day. Not everyone hunts during archery or muzzleloader and I don't think they should have to wait for a buck or be forced to shoot a buck if they don't want to so they can get a deer.
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#3058765 - 12/01/12 07:46 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: RUGER]
muddyboots
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Telecheck.
2 buck limit.



Wow Great Minds think alike!
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#3058902 - 12/01/12 08:55 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: muddyboots]
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Start archery Sept 1st(or the closest Saturday), Youth hunt 1st weekend of Nov, Muzzleloader 2nd weekend of Nov, Rifle last two weeks of Nov and back to archery till season closes first weekend of January. Then the 2nd youth hunt

Two buck limit-both may be harvested in one day.

No feeding and do away with "deer corn" and feeder sales in any TN store. Minerals and food plots would still be legal as they can actually help deer.

GREATLY increase the penalty for poaching. Bigger fines, time in jail, and longer suspension of licence.

I'd like to see the above but in all honesty I think TN is fine the way it is, just not for mature deer.
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#3058917 - 12/01/12 09:07 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Master Chief]
AllOutdoors
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Telecheck. Baiting either allow it or outlaw it completely. A buck is a buck.... if its a male, use a buck tag.
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#3058930 - 12/01/12 09:21 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: muddyboots]
Mid
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I have no complaints on the big game seasons, however would like to see the following for Predators:

Centerfire and shotguns up to "00" shot on WMA's for coyotes, fox & bobcat - even if only 1 month - LBL does it in February with no issues and hunting a 20 to 35 pound coyote with an anemic rimfire (.17HMR & .22WRM)is in my opnion unethical...not saying it cant be done, but shot placement is critical and you are more likely to wound the animal and never recover

Allow Fox to be taken while using electronic calls - legal for coyotes, bobcats but i have to pull up if i see a red or grey

Allow coyote, fox at night during months that do not have a big game season in effect.most eastern and midwest states allow it and its addicting.

I personally predator hunt year round when i can and know a lot of folks that do also...most of these changes actually makes sense in controling the predator population in tennessee especially coyotes...keeping them in check will increase populations and the survival rates of fawns, turkey poults, quail chicks etc. Predator hunting out west has always been a big $$$ drawn for the hunting industry for years..we in the east have for the most part just caught the bug in the past several years and the population here has increased 10 fold with limited pressure. There are a lot of predator hunters out there that would agree with these type of changes....i cant be the only one
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#3058956 - 12/01/12 09:55 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Master Chief]
Eric Kilby
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
Start archery Sept 1st(or the closest Saturday), Youth hunt 1st weekend of Nov, Muzzleloader 2nd weekend of Nov, Rifle last two weeks of Nov and back to archery till season closes first weekend of January. Then the 2nd youth hunt


i think add a rifle hunt the last week of December and you would have it perfect
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#3059074 - 12/02/12 05:40 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ]
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Leave as is, especially unit L. Tennessee is my favorite state to hunt in, especially as my kids grow up.

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#3059077 - 12/02/12 05:45 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: TX300mag]
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And TWRA should also put a brand new T/C muzzleloader of our choice under every Tn. hunter.

And also maybe give every hunter in the state 1000 acres of their own private land.

And a new truck too!
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#3059153 - 12/02/12 07:29 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 102]
FrickorFrack
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Telecheck & online checkout is fine -- very convenient, but leave some provision in place for the "old school" hunters who have no idea (or the desire to learn) of how to utilize such modern-day devices. Those seasoned hunters are often the ones with the best stories to share around the campfire & we should appreciate their contribution to the sport of hunting.
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#3059174 - 12/02/12 07:43 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
BMan
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


What info?

Check station data

Is this personal observation at one check station? Because the statistics on the TWRA Hunter Toolbox site do not support your statment.
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#3059281 - 12/02/12 09:17 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BMan]
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Telecheck
2 buck limit
2 doe limit a day instead of 3 a day
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#3059338 - 12/02/12 10:18 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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Do away with type 94 PERMIT!!!! I don't need one myself nor my kids, as we all have lifetime licence. If the limit on does is 3 per day, licence should cover limits without the need for a PERMIT. I thought years ago the type 94 was a WMA permit to hunt on non-quota WMA hunts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is what a type 04 should be for............
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#3059368 - 12/02/12 10:38 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 102]
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one buck ayr we could have some big buck 2 does a yr state wide
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#3059369 - 12/02/12 10:40 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: JARHEAD
After killing a bear we cant have a gun in the woods on the bear hunts TO KILL HOGS THE TWRA WANTS GONE !!!!!

So if someone feed dogs all year and kills a Bear then he cant have a gun in the truck to incedently kill hogs on the hunts.


i agree something needs to be done because i have over heard a few guys say they just wouldnt check bears out anymore because it ends their hunting its a shame ..
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#3059377 - 12/02/12 10:45 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 102]
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 Originally Posted By: 102
And TWRA should also put a brand new T/C muzzleloader of our choice under every Tn. hunter.

And also maybe give every hunter in the state 1000 acres of their own private land.

And a new truck too!

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#3059471 - 12/02/12 12:28 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: vj333]
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Turn Lauderdale/Tipton Co to Unit L
TeleCheck
2 bucks a year
Apply a 8pt rule rather than a 9pt rule on the WMA's (Tully, Moss Island). Its flat rediculous and frustrating as to how many very mature 8pts ive seen.
Increase Squirrel limit
Allow night time Coyote hunting during non big game seasons. Something needs to be done to curve the explosive population ive seen.

Just my 2 cents worth
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#3059656 - 12/02/12 02:47 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


Her claims have been refuted numerous times already. Some people post misinformation just to stir things up.
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#3059720 - 12/02/12 03:57 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
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I like the idea of the coyote hunting at night during non big game seasons.
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#3059836 - 12/02/12 05:09 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: tn droptine]
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Allow the use of "smart bullets" for those of us who experience tactical failure. If you would teach the deer to stop and turn just right, that would be good, too.
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#3059901 - 12/02/12 05:49 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


Her claims have been refuted numerous times already. Some people post misinformation just to stir things up.


I dont appreciate your rude comments. BSK posted the county harvest data and i read it, so take it up with him if its "misinformation just to stir things up". If i posted something that is misinformation ill apologize and be the first to admit im wrong. There, Mr we dont have the soil to grow big bucks.

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#3059925 - 12/02/12 05:59 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
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Not rude, just defending the program. This is the third time you posted your county kills 90% yearlings. I challenge you to show us that data or where BSK posted that data. Otherwise I stand by the statement that it's pure misinformation.
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#3059937 - 12/02/12 06:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
Not rude, just defending the program. This is the third time you posted your county kills 90% yearlings. I challenge you to show us that data or where BSK posted that data. Otherwise I stand by the statement that it's pure misinformation.


Not rude really? You just basically called me a liar and someone who likes to "stir stuff up". Look it up for yourself in the qdm forum, should've been around feb of last year when he posted all the statewide county harvest results. Nothing wrong with defending the program, however unprofessional behavior is not part of that process.

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#3059958 - 12/02/12 06:14 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
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Easy way to settle this....post your (or BSKs) claims.

The reason it was stated that it was meant to stir things up is that you've been corrected multiple times about using wrong information. I believe that qualifies as trying to stir things up.
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#3060015 - 12/02/12 06:48 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
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Whatever you say. Get some rest and get out and enjoy some of this beautiful weather. Happy holidays.
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#3060090 - 12/02/12 07:25 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
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Thank you... \:\)

I hope you enjoy the holidays as well!
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#3060107 - 12/02/12 07:30 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
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#3060109 - 12/02/12 07:31 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BigGameGuy]
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Shorter gun season and a two buck limit.
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#3060237 - 12/02/12 08:17 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
Not rude, just defending the program. This is the third time you posted your county kills 90% yearlings. I challenge you to show us that data or where BSK posted that data. Otherwise I stand by the statement that it's pure misinformation.


Not rude really? You just basically called me a liar and someone who likes to "stir stuff up". Look it up for yourself in the qdm forum, should've been around feb of last year when he posted all the statewide county harvest results. Nothing wrong with defending the program, however unprofessional behavior is not part of that process.


It seems like BGG has given you the perfect opportunity to put him in his place. Just post this data and you will be the clear winner.

My guess is that it doesn't happen because I highly suspect that data DOES NOT EXIST.


Edited by scn (12/02/12 08:23 PM)
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#3060339 - 12/02/12 08:53 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ImThere]
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 Originally Posted By: ImThere
A buck is a buck if its got balls it counts toward you bag limit
Do away with the one buck per day
i agree ...

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#3060356 - 12/02/12 09:02 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: LIL JOKER]
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That's just not feasible because many hunters have trouble telling the difference between a button buck and a doe. So then they would stop shooting does for fear of losing a buck tag. When they did inadvertently shoot a bb, mistaking it for a doe, lots of them would leave them laying.
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#3060366 - 12/02/12 09:08 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Mossy Oak]
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 Originally Posted By: Mossy Oak
Shorter gun season and a two buck limit.
That is it in a nutshell. It does not take a rocket scientist to set up a few cameras and check the inventory of your deer herd. Very few bucks are making it past 2 1/2 years old around here. Give the deer a break for once.

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#3060370 - 12/02/12 09:09 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: skippy1]
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 Originally Posted By: skippy1
what changes would you like to see in 2013 - 2014 deer season?


stop all baiting 10 days before season for everyone. its not right that a person can bait his land year around just to keep all the game on his land and he dont hunt just keeping the game to watch. let move around

Impossible to enforce with the funds and manpower available
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#3060380 - 12/02/12 09:13 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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 Originally Posted By: Carlos Viagra
That's just not feasible because many hunters have trouble telling the difference between a button buck and a doe. So then they would stop shooting does for fear of losing a buck tag. When they did inadvertently shoot a bb, mistaking it for a doe, lots of them would leave them laying.
I killed a few button bucks back in the day. Then I figured it out if you see a small deer walking around acting very dumb dont shoot it more often than not it is a 6 month old button buck. I have not killed one in 15 years and I eat several deer a year.

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#3060435 - 12/02/12 09:38 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: TNLynn]
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Need looser restrictions on coyote hunting. Let hunting be done with buckshot after big game seasons. Its extremely hard to find "t" shot. As far as deer 15" outside spread or 4 pts on one side
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#3060610 - 12/03/12 04:52 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ]
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Give me my truck, gun, and 1000 acres.

I am sure SOMEWHERE in the bailout money or Obamacare, there is a provision for this.

Also, I really do not want to have to practice trigger restraint, learn how to do the "work" involved with learning how to hunt smart, and become capable of killing mature bucks. So PLEASE TWRA, DO SOMETHING (lower buck limits, protest young bucks, practice antler restriction...blah-blah) so I can easily kill huge bucks!
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#3060755 - 12/03/12 07:40 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 102]
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i would like the shorter season and 2 buck limit
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#3060899 - 12/03/12 09:26 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: JARHEAD
Let us have "Wild Boar" season back !!!


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#3060915 - 12/03/12 09:32 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: muskyhunter]
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I do not think anything needs to be changed. I am from AL, and I always dreamed and wanted land in TN. Now we got it, and I think it is great. Now they say grass is always greener than the other side, but I think it is way better than where I used to hunt. yall don't think so, but to me, TN is a trophy state. Look at the kill forum. Not much like that where I am from.
If there was anything that would personally make me happier it would be increase the season to end of Jan. make a two buck limit, give the deer a break for 2 weeks during December with bow only. But that is my personal preference. And I like that because I love to bow hunt and I don't get to hunt every day so I would like the season to be longer.
But my dad is a small game hunter, and if deer season was longer, there are less oppurtunites for the small game hunter.
Even though I feel like the deer season is short, I still don't complain to much. I will be retired one day and then I can nearly go everyday.
I love hunting in TN!

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#3060952 - 12/03/12 09:55 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: woodsman87]
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Give the deer a break.
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#3060957 - 12/03/12 10:01 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: SEC]
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#3061079 - 12/03/12 11:14 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: moondog]
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Keep it the way it is and has been for years, all you wanting 2 buck limits and shorter season, go hunt another state and stop hunting the 2nd wknd in november. 2 buck limit will not accomplish what your wanting.
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#3061176 - 12/03/12 12:13 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
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 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you


where did you get your info?


Her claims have been refuted numerous times already. Some people post misinformation just to stir things up.


I dont appreciate your rude comments. BSK posted the county harvest data and i read it, so take it up with him if its "misinformation just to stir things up". If i posted something that is misinformation ill apologize and be the first to admit im wrong. There, Mr we dont have the soil to grow big bucks.


Whoa! I never posted any such data! In fact, I can promise you not a single county in TN has a 90% yearling buck kill percentage.
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#3061183 - 12/03/12 12:17 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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OK, time for my requested "change:" permanently link opening of MZ and gun to the 1st and 3rd Saturdays in November, respectively, instead of the Saturday before Thanksgiving for opening of gun, and two weekends before that for opening of MZ.
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#3061195 - 12/03/12 12:24 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: SEC]
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 Originally Posted By: SEC
 Originally Posted By: Mossy Oak
Shorter gun season and a two buck limit.
That is it in a nutshell. It does not take a rocket scientist to set up a few cameras and check the inventory of your deer herd. Very few bucks are making it past 2 1/2 years old around here. Give the deer a break for once.


i have seen a grand total of 3 1.5 yr old bucks this year. and a couple of buttons. so far in the group we have killed four 3.5 yr old 8 pts, a 3.5 yo 7 pt and a 4.5 yo 10 pt. nope, no deer making through the season also i had ZERO pics of these deer but had several 1.5 yo bucks on camera. the older deer are there.
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#3061202 - 12/03/12 12:26 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Whoa! I never posted any such data! In fact, I can promise you not a single county in TN has a 90% yearling buck kill percentage.


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#3061250 - 12/03/12 01:02 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: SEC
 Originally Posted By: Mossy Oak
Shorter gun season and a two buck limit.
That is it in a nutshell. It does not take a rocket scientist to set up a few cameras and check the inventory of your deer herd. Very few bucks are making it past 2 1/2 years old around here. Give the deer a break for once.


i have seen a grand total of 3 1.5 yr old bucks this year. and a couple of buttons. so far in the group we have killed four 3.5 yr old 8 pts, a 3.5 yo 7 pt and a 4.5 yo 10 pt. nope, no deer making through the season also i had ZERO pics of these deer but had several 1.5 yo bucks on camera. the older deer are there.
I can only speak of my area. Central western Tennessee Ag country. Big fields small woodlots the deer are much more visible than the mountains of east Tennessee our deer our taking a pounding . The long gun season is not going to have the same affect in those rugged mountains as it has in this more open easier hunted terrain. I have heard a tn deer expert say I am not going to name him that if the midwest went to a season like ours it would have a very negative affect on there deer herd. My area is much more like the midwest and it in my opinion should be managed accordingly.


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#3061494 - 12/03/12 03:57 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BowGirl]
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I would like to see the anterless hunt's in unitB include Cherokee National Forest, or at least let us hunters that live in the NF counties draw for some doe tags to use on NF land.
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#3061504 - 12/03/12 04:03 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: rem270]
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 Originally Posted By: rem270
Only thing i would change is to go to all online or telecheck.

Do away with the gas stations who half of them dont know what in the heck there doing.



The owners don't even speak English in the stores around me.

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#3061588 - 12/03/12 05:03 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: SEC]
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 Originally Posted By: SEC
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: SEC
 Originally Posted By: Mossy Oak
Shorter gun season and a two buck limit.
That is it in a nutshell. It does not take a rocket scientist to set up a few cameras and check the inventory of your deer herd. Very few bucks are making it past 2 1/2 years old around here. Give the deer a break for once.


i have seen a grand total of 3 1.5 yr old bucks this year. and a couple of buttons. so far in the group we have killed four 3.5 yr old 8 pts, a 3.5 yo 7 pt and a 4.5 yo 10 pt. nope, no deer making through the season also i had ZERO pics of these deer but had several 1.5 yo bucks on camera. the older deer are there.
I can only speak of my area. Central western Tennessee Ag country. Big fields small woodlots the deer are much more visible than the mountains of east Tennessee our deer our taking a pounding . The long gun season is not going to have the same affect in those rugged mountains as it has in this more open easier hunted terrain. I have heard a tn deer expert say I am not going to name him that if the midwest went to a season like ours it would have a very negative affect on there deer herd. My area is much more like the midwest and it in my opinion should be managed accordingly.


Read somewhere a couple of years ago - may have been here on tndeer - that to keep a deer population at it current level you need to kill 40% of the does every year.

I would be willing to bet that, regardless of what you feel may be happening, far fewer than 40% of the does are being killed in the county or even general area you are in. They are just getting smarter and harder to kill.
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#3061631 - 12/03/12 05:32 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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legalize baiting go to shorter season and 2 buck limit
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#3061773 - 12/03/12 06:41 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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2 Buck limit state-wide.....No more than 1 doe per day....Nothing less than 4 points except during Young Sportsman Hunts...AND MY PET PEEVE....Go Back To 2 M/L Seasons with the last being after the end of Rifle Season!

Edited by Backwudz (12/03/12 06:45 PM)
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#3062356 - 12/04/12 04:07 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ]
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#3062398 - 12/04/12 05:15 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: punkcat]
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 Originally Posted By: punkcat
 Originally Posted By: rem270
Only thing i would change is to go to all online or telecheck.

Do away with the gas stations who half of them dont know what in the heck there doing.



The owners don't even speak English in the stores around me.


Not all of them are like that. I live in a rural area and it's still Mom & Pop stores that folks can hang out at and talk about the days hunt after checking in their deer. I, for one, want to see them stay.
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#3062465 - 12/04/12 06:39 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: MUP]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
 Originally Posted By: punkcat
 Originally Posted By: rem270
Only thing i would change is to go to all online or telecheck.

Do away with the gas stations who half of them dont know what in the heck there doing.



The owners don't even speak English in the stores around me.


Not all of them are like that. I live in a rural area and it's still Mom & Pop stores that folks can hang out at and talk about the days hunt after checking in their deer. I, for one, want to see them stay.


There are no plans to do away with the checking stations.
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#3062521 - 12/04/12 07:45 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
The real question.......how many of you will take the time to list your concerns where it really matters? The TWRC makes the rules, not TWRA. If you want a change, take it to them. These guys on here will be one voice, and the voice of underlings at that. They have to follow what the TWRC says, not vice versa. You however can be many voices to TWRC. Call them with your concerns, they will never see them here.


Amen. At the end of the big game season you can submit your comments/questions via email and the TWRA website has a link there. Or you can always email your commisioner(s) at any time. Most I have dealt with are very responsive and quickly do so. I don't agree with everything they do, but they do at least pretend to listen.
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#3062531 - 12/04/12 07:54 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Telecheck.
2 buck limit.



Wow Great Minds think alike!


I'm down with that!
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#3062537 - 12/04/12 07:59 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BlountArrow]
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So, admittedly I don't exactly know how you do it:
But,I wish we could find an intelligent way to allow more bucks to reach maturity before being killed off and still satisfy the meat hunters and still promote the overall quality of the deer herd. I still feel like most of the bucks in Unit B have too much of a target on their backs as soon as there antlers break the skin.
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#3062538 - 12/04/12 08:01 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BlountArrow]
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One more thing...tougher penalties for poaching and intentional trespassing. I guess some of that would be a state issue.
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#3062580 - 12/04/12 08:21 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Swampster]
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I would like to see a two or three day hunting license implemented like Alabama and Georgia have. I have had several opportunities to hunt up there this year but chose not to as a week license just costs to much for a two day hunt.
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#3062597 - 12/04/12 08:33 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Unicam]
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Not a fan of the 2-3 day temporary license. IMO we dont need out of state hunters killing 2-3 bucks for less money than a resident has to pay. Pay full non resident price and kill out.
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#3062738 - 12/04/12 10:13 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
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1) do away with the Deer record book for TN. Way to many folks caught up on this scoring buck crap.

2)Make it bow only after January first and keep it open for a few more weeks

3)Make President Island a special draw seperate from other draw hunts

4)Keep everything else the same. 3 buck limit is just right.
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#3063289 - 12/04/12 03:21 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: WRbowhunter]
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If you want a shorter season, hunt less. If you believe the deer need a break, hunt less. Seems kinda simple to me.
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#3063342 - 12/04/12 03:52 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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I would Like to see a 1 Buck limit no matter how you how you shoot it. Increase doe in Unit A. Make Gun Season Only 5 days Long at Have it fall on Monday thru Friday and not hit a weekend. Put Muzzle loader at the end of december and have that only 5 days as well. Make the Youth Hunt 7 consecutive days. Have a 3 on one side Rule for Bucks. and Open wild Hogs on all wma's
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#3063412 - 12/04/12 04:14 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bobs8pt]
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Earn a Buck in unit L . 1st Buck no doe required. 3 does needed to tag out.
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#3063428 - 12/04/12 04:22 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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why has this not been locked no twra question here? this is only whinning about changes!!!! which by the way im sure glad twra is not like burger king because if you guys had your way it would be a disaster!!!!!!

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#3063521 - 12/04/12 05:15 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: knightrider]
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I am for a 2 buck limit. At least in Unit L. If meat hunters want more than those 2, they can shoot does.
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#3063544 - 12/04/12 05:36 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Hunter 257W]
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I for 1 am tired of seeing the word meat hunter!.Im a deer hunter & if somebody wants to challenge them selfs have at it.I will be glad to shoot the biggest deer that comes by me but if its legal it may hit the ground.Im glad the limits are what they have improved too.I have seen many a person that was happy to kill a spike & have seen others on here having remorse that they shot a deer their not happy with.Reckon im too easy to please \:\)
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#3063657 - 12/04/12 06:45 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: mike243]
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2 buck limit. Scrap that antlerless chart in the hunting guide and make an annual doe limit by county or region. Replace one week of gun with traditional muzzleloader. Don't cancel Oak Ridge hunts because of some crazy old nun. Go back to having some archery-only time in December.

Edited by Vermin93 (12/04/12 07:07 PM)
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#3063659 - 12/04/12 06:46 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: mike243]
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Since I now only hunt deer for the first time in several years I don't have any complaints or suggestions for changes in the regulations. I like them the way they are. I do like the idea of the PI hunts being seperate from the rest of the draw hunts considering it takes 9+ years to get drawn for that hunt. Other than that the only thing I can think of outside the box would be some type of earn a buck system in that if you have killed 2 bucks you can't take the third until you've taken a doe. If you really want to get outside and all the bucks you've taken are 3.5 years old plus you automatically get a 4th buck tag.
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#3063666 - 12/04/12 06:49 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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open bow season a week later. close rifle two weeks ealier. go to a 2 buck limit, which should make meat hunters focus on does more than bucks

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#3063833 - 12/04/12 08:05 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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Don't know if it is possible but if it wouldn't effect the yearlings being born I would like to see the entire season move back one month , so oct to feb , way to hot to hunt in bow season , other than that maybe add a few more days to the season , it goes by way to fast ..
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#3063834 - 12/04/12 08:05 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: SEC]
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 Originally Posted By: SEC
 Originally Posted By: BowGirl
Last year the bucks harvested in my county was over 90% yearlings. Would like to see some help with the age structure in my county. Its frustrating to have a alot of hunting ground and little to no chance at a good buck. Thank you
You tell em BowGirl to many bucks are not living to see there 3rd birthday.


there is no way through law making to change that either. It is a personal choice and you can only make that choice for you not the next person. Kill what you like.

I can't help but chuckle when people say, "if you only shoot little bucks, then you will only have little bucks on your place." I guess so assuming there were no big bucks there when you got the place to hunt and I guess so if you also assume all the bucks on that property and the surrounding properties are killed every year, so the cycle of buck fawns growing to 1 1/2 yr olds only to be shot continues.

I don't understand this logic. do people really believe that certain areas have a big buck behind every tree, and others are devoid of them and that no young bucks survive the season?

oh and leave things the way they are. \:\)
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#3063846 - 12/04/12 08:10 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: southernhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: southernhunter
Don't know if it is possible but if it wouldn't effect the yearlings being born I would like to see the entire season move back one month , so oct to feb , way to hot to hunt in bow season , other than that maybe add a few more days to the season , it goes by way to fast ..




people will be shooting shed bucks as does. besides jan and feb belong to small game hunters
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#3063849 - 12/04/12 08:11 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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count button bucks as bucks
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#3063853 - 12/04/12 08:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: THE DUKE]
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 Originally Posted By: JOSEY WALES
Keep it the way it is and has been for years, all you wanting 2 buck limits and shorter season, go hunt another state and stop hunting the 2nd wknd in november. 2 buck limit will not accomplish what your wanting.


true it is not a fixall but it will save a lot of bucks
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#3063859 - 12/04/12 08:14 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: UpperTully]
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 Originally Posted By: UpperTully
Turn Lauderdale/Tipton Co to Unit L
TeleCheck
2 bucks a year
Apply a 8pt rule rather than a 9pt rule on the WMA's (Tully, Moss Island). Its flat rediculous and frustrating as to how many very mature 8pts ive seen.
Increase Squirrel limit
Allow night time Coyote hunting during non big game seasons. Something needs to be done to curve the explosive population ive seen.



we already have telecheck

Just my 2 cents worth
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#3063863 - 12/04/12 08:14 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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telecheck? we already have it
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#3063867 - 12/04/12 08:16 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
count button bucks as bucks


That also would make them legal to shoot as a buck as you can't have it both ways.

So you really think it would make a big difference in the number of buck fawns killed?
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#3063881 - 12/04/12 08:27 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: JOSEY WALES
Keep it the way it is and has been for years, all you wanting 2 buck limits and shorter season, go hunt another state and stop hunting the 2nd wknd in november. 2 buck limit will not accomplish what your wanting.


true it is not a fixall but it will save a lot of bucks


Everyone wants to shoot Big Bucks, We all go out there hoping to put that Big Guy on the wall of our Trophy room... However NO ONE wants to sacrifice anything to get those Big Deer. It will Take TWO years. That is all. Pass up that 1.5 yr old buck this year and in two yrs you have three yr old Bucks roaming your deer hunting woods. Shorter seasons mean More Bucks in the woods, Again More Bucks in the woods, Less doe and you will see a Big difference in what you are shooting. Don't Believe me go to ohio or Illinios to hunt. You can Have that here as well if you just manage your land right. This does not have to be Law. Just practice it on your own and you will see the difference. I get so mad when I talk to other Hunters who say they shot a 4 pt because thats all there is where they hunt. The reason there is only 4 ptrs is because the deer never got the chance to grow to be anything else. you might as well shoot a doe and let the young ones walk.
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#3063889 - 12/04/12 08:31 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bobs8pt]
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One buck limit or 3 buck limit with 4 point on one side restrictions
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#3063893 - 12/04/12 08:33 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bobs8pt]
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I would like a break between muzzleloader and rifle season again. Way too much pressure on the deer. Shorten rifle or make a break in it also. Bow only during the breaks.
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#3063910 - 12/04/12 08:44 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: Bone Collector]
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 Originally Posted By: Bone Collector
I don't understand this logic. do people really believe that certain areas have a big buck behind every tree, and others are devoid of them and that no young bucks survive the season?


Yes, they actually believe it. Every where they don't have permission to hunt has a monster mature buck behind every tree. On the places they do have permission to hunt, the neighbors kill every single living buck every year and there are no bucks older than spike yearlings.

...or so I've read on this site a thousand times. ;\)

...Oh, and they also believe a 2 or 1 buck limit would suddenly cause every buck in Tennessee to grow monster antlers just like bucks do in Illinois and Iowa (where every mature buck scores 180+). Doesn't everyone know that? You can hear all about it on your favorite "Monster Buck Madness" hunting show... ;\)
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#3063911 - 12/04/12 08:44 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bobs8pt]
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One buck limit or 3 buck limit with 4 point on one side restrictions
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#3063939 - 12/04/12 08:58 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: scn]
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count button bucks as bucks


That also would make them legal to shoot as a buck as you can't have it both ways.

So you really think it would make a big difference in the number of buck fawns killed?


it would help some. they are legal in unit L as anterless, to the tune of 3 per day so making them legal as bucks would have no adverse effect on us
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#3063962 - 12/04/12 09:19 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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The only thing I would like to see is that I would like to have the opportunity to put a hay spear on the front of my race quad and it be considered a spear. I think I'd have better luck that way because I can't hit the side of barn this year with a weapon.
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#3064000 - 12/04/12 09:41 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
...Oh, and they also believe a 2 or 1 buck limit would suddenly cause every buck in Tennessee to grow monster antlers just like bucks do in Illinois and Iowa (where every mature buck scores 180+). Doesn't everyone know that? You can hear all about it on your favorite "Monster Buck Madness" hunting show... ;\)


I get the sarcasm, but what are the real reasons that you support a 2-buck limit?
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#3064014 - 12/04/12 10:03 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: Vermin93]
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Would love to see 2 buck limit and 4 points to a side restriction. Either way it will let the deer become more mature.
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#3064031 - 12/04/12 10:27 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: DropTine21]
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The 3buck limit is nice maby make it one buck anysize the other two have to have 3 or 4 on each side. I for one dont like the 3/day doe limit. I say set a number say 5does for the entire season.
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#3064100 - 12/05/12 03:24 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
 Originally Posted By: scn
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count button bucks as bucks


That also would make them legal to shoot as a buck as you can't have it both ways.

So you really think it would make a big difference in the number of buck fawns killed?


it would help some. they are legal in unit L as anterless, to the tune of 3 per day so making them legal as bucks would have no adverse effect on us

Honestly do you think ANYONE has ever shot 3 button bucks in the same day ??
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#3064101 - 12/05/12 03:26 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: backwoods7]
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Nobody is going out and shooting 3 does a day everday.Maybe once in awhile.
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#3064311 - 12/05/12 08:07 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: TNLynn]
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4 Buck Limit :)That 2 Buck limit is a Bunch of Bull. Leave it at 3. The way it should be.
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#3064383 - 12/05/12 09:02 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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Vermin, the reason is pretty much they probably see tons of deer each time they go. Tighten up your rules in your club or lease but leave TWRA alone. No one is ever happy reguardless of what the rules are. I cant remember when Ive shot 3 bucks in one season and for those that do, good job. It's up to the person to decide what he or she wants to shoot and why should a person that has never hunted have to start out restricted. Keep the season the same, Ive had a busy season working and my luck would be it's closed when I found time to go. TWRA can't satisfy everyone but the majority of the time they do.
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#3064389 - 12/05/12 09:04 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: TN Whitetail Freak]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Whitetail Freak
or 3 buck limit with 4 point on one side restrictions


That would mean not being able to shoot mature deer that dont meet the antler requirements while being allowed to kill top end yearlings and young bucks. That wouldn't improve anything.

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#3064394 - 12/05/12 09:06 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Right_Tackle74]
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First off im tickled with where we are in TN concerning the deer herd, the age structure, buck to do ratio's, etc. I think the hunting, mature bucks included, is as good as its ever been and getting slowly better each year. Im fine with the buck limits as well. All that said, it would be nice to allow all hunters who buy a big game gun lic, to shoot ONE doe, in all areas that can handle it that is, which would be the majority of the state. I think this alone would save thousands of young bucks lives every year, due to many hunters who simply want to kill ANY deer, being forced to shoot a small buck out of necessity, because its the only legal deer they see.
I think this would do more to promote a higher % of young bucks to the next season than anything else, while also making MANY more hunters happy as well!

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#3064411 - 12/05/12 09:20 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Winchester]
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...All that said, it would be nice to allow all hunters who buy a big game gun lic, to shoot ONE doe, in all areas that can handle it that is, which would be the majority of the state. I think this alone would save thousands of young bucks lives every year, due to many hunters who simply want to kill ANY deer, being forced to shoot a small buck out of necessity, because its the only legal deer they see.
I think this would do more to promote a higher % of young bucks to the next season than anything else, while also making MANY more hunters happy as well!


BINGO. I couldn't have said it better - I believe this is especially a problem in Unit B. When I started hunting and a few years after that, I just wanted to kill a deer. I hunted in Unit B, that was my only option then, I didn't bow hunt then, and if I didn't kill a doe during that one muzzleloader weekend that meant I basically had to shoot the first legal buck I saw if I wanted any deer meat. I know for a fact there are still several folks in that same boat. I fortunately have other options now, but not everyone is so fortunate.
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#3064424 - 12/05/12 09:25 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BlountArrow]
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1 buck limit with 12 pt antler restrictions & 20" spread!!!
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#3064708 - 12/05/12 01:02 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: hunterncoach]
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#3064709 - 12/05/12 01:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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I'd really like to see hogs put back on the menu, but with one caveat: You'd need a special/extra license to hunt them on TWRA property. It may put off the 'transport to hunt' mob, whilst still allowing those of us with the itch to be allowed to go kill a few on public land.
Also an extra period of bow only, between Muzzleloader & gun season, extending the overall season to the last Sunday in January & drop/modify the doe restrictions in unit A.
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#3064754 - 12/05/12 01:37 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: LSUtigers]
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 Originally Posted By: LSUtigers
Not asking for much huh?
I was kidding but I would like to see some sort of break from the 2 month long gun season....truthfully id like to see a weekend muzzleloader hunt the first weekend of nov. then run the modern gun from the 2nd weekend in nov through the weekend following thanksgiving then muzzleloader the last 9 days of the season....2 bucks, 4 does anytime any weapon....(middle TN)

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#3064804 - 12/05/12 01:59 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BlountArrow]
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...All that said, it would be nice to allow all hunters who buy a big game gun lic, to shoot ONE doe, in all areas that can handle it that is, which would be the majority of the state. I think this alone would save thousands of young bucks lives every year, due to many hunters who simply want to kill ANY deer, being forced to shoot a small buck out of necessity, because its the only legal deer they see.
I think this would do more to promote a higher % of young bucks to the next season than anything else, while also making MANY more hunters happy as well!


BINGO. I couldn't have said it better - I believe this is especially a problem in Unit B. When I started hunting and a few years after that, I just wanted to kill a deer. I hunted in Unit B, that was my only option then, I didn't bow hunt then, and if I didn't kill a doe during that one muzzleloader weekend that meant I basically had to shoot the first legal buck I saw if I wanted any deer meat. I know for a fact there are still several folks in that same boat. I fortunately have other options now, but not everyone is so fortunate.

Exactly right, still thousands and thousands of hunters faced with this problem in both Unit B and Unit A!

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#3064819 - 12/05/12 02:06 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Winchester]
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#3064848 - 12/05/12 02:21 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
...All that said, it would be nice to allow all hunters who buy a big game gun lic, to shoot ONE doe, in all areas that can handle it that is, which would be the majority of the state. I think this alone would save thousands of young bucks lives every year, due to many hunters who simply want to kill ANY deer, being forced to shoot a small buck out of necessity, because its the only legal deer they see.
I think this would do more to promote a higher % of young bucks to the next season than anything else, while also making MANY more hunters happy as well!


BINGO. I couldn't have said it better - I believe this is especially a problem in Unit B. When I started hunting and a few years after that, I just wanted to kill a deer. I hunted in Unit B, that was my only option then, I didn't bow hunt then, and if I didn't kill a doe during that one muzzleloader weekend that meant I basically had to shoot the first legal buck I saw if I wanted any deer meat. I know for a fact there are still several folks in that same boat. I fortunately have other options now, but not everyone is so fortunate.

Exactly right, still thousands and thousands of hunters faced with this problem in both Unit B and Unit A!


I don't think commissioners/fellow hunters/etc understand how particularly discouraging and disheartening the deer season becomes after muzzleloader ends in many parts of Unit B for thousands of hunters. I remember the feeling vividly as a young hunter especially. Therefore, like you said, as long as it is legal they shoot whatever they can get in many parts of Unit B especially.
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#3064923 - 12/05/12 03:05 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BlountArrow]
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I agree with Winchester and BlountArrow on the doe harvest idea.
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#3064936 - 12/05/12 03:13 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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Return muzzleloader season to what it was intended to be; traditional muzzleloaders only.
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#3065030 - 12/05/12 04:36 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: Skully]
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Vermin, the reason is pretty much they probably see tons of deer each time they go. Tighten up your rules in your club or lease but leave TWRA alone. No one is ever happy reguardless of what the rules are. I cant remember when Ive shot 3 bucks in one season and for those that do, good job. It's up to the person to decide what he or she wants to shoot and why should a person that has never hunted have to start out restricted. Keep the season the same, Ive had a busy season working and my luck would be it's closed when I found time to go. TWRA can't satisfy everyone but the majority of the time they do.


BSK has previously gone on record as being in favor of a 2-buck limit. I was just wondering what his reasoning is since he does this stuff for living.
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#3065034 - 12/05/12 04:39 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: Vermin93]
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Can't remember anyone on our lease taking 3 bucks in a season, but we do have a few guys that take two by the time rifle season starts. If it were a two buck limit, that would keep them from hunting for that trophy.
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#3065044 - 12/05/12 04:47 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Robtattoo]
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Return muzzleloader season to what it was intended to be; traditional muzzleloaders only.


Really? This would make a difference how?
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#3065088 - 12/05/12 05:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: southernhunter
Don't know if it is possible but if it wouldn't effect the yearlings being born I would like to see the entire season move back one month , so oct to feb , way to hot to hunt in bow season , other than that maybe add a few more days to the season , it goes by way to fast ..




people will be shooting shed bucks as does. besides jan and feb belong to small game hunters
Thats easy. Make it antlerd buck only.
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#3065092 - 12/05/12 05:15 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: farmin68]
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Return muzzleloader season to what it was intended to be; traditional muzzleloaders only.


Really? This would make a difference how?


Well, it'd reduce early season pressure by reducing the amount of folks in the woods for a brief period & also give those of us that hunt with traditional equipment a better chance! \:D
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#3065147 - 12/05/12 05:58 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Robtattoo]
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Notice how many of these posts can be distilled down to: "I want the state to stop everybody else from killing bucks (hunting) so I can kill (hunt) what I want (when no one else can hunt)"? ;\)
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#3065153 - 12/05/12 06:02 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -20 [Re: Vermin93]
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BSK has previously gone on record as being in favor of a 2-buck limit. I was just wondering what his reasoning is since he does this stuff for living.


I don't think a 2 buck limit would make much of a difference biologically (as in improving buck age structure). I just like a 2 buck limit and I think it sends a message to hunters that bucks are a desireable yet somewhat limited resource. I think this might help a little in changing attitudes, just like the 3-doe-a-day limit did. The state never expected people to try and kill that many. But the 3-doe-per-day limit sent a message to hunters that killing does is OK. That message got through. Perhaps a 2 buck limit message might change minds over time.

But I'm perfectly fine with the 3 buck limit. I just prefer a 2 buck limit.
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#3065157 - 12/05/12 06:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Winchester]
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First off im tickled with where we are in TN concerning the deer herd, the age structure, buck to do ratio's, etc. I think the hunting, mature bucks included, is as good as its ever been and getting slowly better each year.


I agree completely. The herd structure in TN is better than it has ever been and still showing signs of slow improvement.
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#3065166 - 12/05/12 06:11 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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Lets just open deer season nov 1st & shut it down after the last day of the month,use the weapon of your choice.3 bucks if they have nuts & doe #s as TWRA see's fit
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#3065171 - 12/05/12 06:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Notice how many of these posts can be distilled down to: "I want the state to stop everybody else from killing bucks (or hunting) so I can kill (or hunt) what I want (when no one else can hunting)"? ;\)


I can't find the like button, so I say...

X2!!
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#3065183 - 12/05/12 06:20 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: farmin68]
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Well I'm sorry to appear selfish. I do, however, fully believe that the seasons should be left as intended. Muzzleloader for sidelock muzzleloaders, archery for archery equipment not crossbows, general season for anything goes.
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#3065383 - 12/05/12 08:24 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Winchester]
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I would like to see the second week of m/l go back to archery, and I would not complain about a 1 or 2 buck limit!
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#3065526 - 12/05/12 10:33 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: JAY B]
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#3065534 - 12/05/12 10:52 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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Tennessee needs many laws changed for upcoming season.... First, our herd is in danger of poor quality unless the buck limit is reduced to 1. Also , all bucks harvested must be past the ears and/or have four or more points on one side. The buck must appear to be a least 3 1/2 years old by the neck and all hunters will be required to re-take the hunter safety course which will include lessons in field-aging bucks and counting antler points from a distance. Each hunter should also be required to shoot a number of does depending on which unit of the state, before harvesting their one buck. Also, baiting will be legalized and the agency will be importing thousands of tons of Kentucky's finest soil via railroad freight and deposited onto select WMAs and private managed lands. People who shoot young bucks and small-racked bucks will become subject to the same shame as any poacher and the agency will add a new section to the wall of shame to include bucks that did not meet the minimum requirements for antler ad age superiority. Tennessee must strive to become the next Saskatchewan of buck quality.
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#3065536 - 12/05/12 11:00 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: hunterncoach]
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 Originally Posted By: LSUtigers
Not asking for much huh?
I was kidding but I would like to see some sort of break from the 2 month long gun season....truthfully id like to see a weekend muzzleloader hunt the first weekend of nov. then run the modern gun from the 2nd weekend in nov through the weekend following thanksgiving then muzzleloader the last 9 days of the season....2 bucks, 4 does anytime any weapon....(middle TN)


SOUNDS GOOD TO ME
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#3065538 - 12/05/12 11:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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count button bucks as bucks


That also would make them legal to shoot as a buck as you can't have it both ways.

So you really think it would make a big difference in the number of buck fawns killed?


it would help some. they are legal in unit L as anterless, to the tune of 3 per day so making them legal as bucks would have no adverse effect on us

Honestly do you think ANYONE has ever shot 3 button bucks in the same day ??





Where did i write that? i just feel a deer that was born a buck, should die a buck. i guess it would be a built in penalty of sorts for hunters who do not tke the time to ID a deer before pulling the trigger.
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#3065550 - 12/05/12 11:39 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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My nephew killed his first two deer of his hunting career. This year and both was opening week if gun season and both was button bucks , on my farm ! I do not like to see buttons killed but there's no way I think he should be punished ! And I would have let him shoot more if he could of ! Now next year now he has killed a few I might try to talk him into holding out for a racked buck .

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#3065652 - 12/06/12 06:43 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: southernhunter]
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My nephew killed his first two deer of his hunting career. This year and both was opening week if gun season and both was button bucks , on my farm ! I do not like to see buttons killed but there's no way I think he should be punished ! And I would have let him shoot more if he could of ! Now next year now he has killed a few I might try to talk him into holding out for a racked buck .



if he is ok with it and you are that is fine. so why would it matter if they counted as bucks. they were in fact bucks.
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#3065724 - 12/06/12 07:24 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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Extend season till end of January.
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#3065732 - 12/06/12 07:31 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: UTGrad]
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open season year round with no limit, deer are no doubt the enemy
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#3065792 - 12/06/12 08:11 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: ImThere]
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I'm tired of all the arguing over weapon type. Open deer season Oct. 1, run it through mid-January (for those along the AL/MS borders), and weapon choice is up to the hunter. Adjust bag limits to prevent over-harvest.
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#3065796 - 12/06/12 08:14 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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I'm tired of all the arguing over weapon type. Open deer season Oct. 1, run it through mid-January (for those along the AL/MS borders), and weapon choice is up to the hunter. Adjust bag limits to prevent over-harvest.
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SOUNDS GOOD TO ME BUT I LIKE JAN 1 CLOSING DATE

DEER SEASON IS TOO LONG IMO
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#3065800 - 12/06/12 08:19 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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I'm tired of all the arguing over weapon type. Open deer season Oct. 1, run it through mid-January (for those along the AL/MS borders), and weapon choice is up to the hunter. Adjust bag limits to prevent over-harvest.
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SOUNDS GOOD TO ME BUT I LIKE JAN 1 CLOSING DATE

DEER SEASON IS TOO LONG IMO


I just want those down along the borders to be able to hunt the early January rut in their area. I want every hunter in TN to have the opportunity to hunt the rut, which can be anywhere from early November to early January across the state.
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#3065807 - 12/06/12 08:26 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HUNT IN SOUTHERN LINCOLN AND GILES AREA, RIGHT ALONG THE LINE AND HAVE ASKED NUMEROUS TIMES WHEN THIS DEBATE TRANSPIRED LAST YR. Their responses put peak rut in their area from Thanksgiving to Dec 10. so in your opinion, what is peak rut in this area. i believe alot of folks are bored and just want to squeak out a few extra days of deer season by clinging to this notion. what are normal parturition dates for deeer in these areas and where these dates place conception? i bet you have sone hard data for these areas.
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#3065820 - 12/06/12 08:36 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HUNT IN SOUTHERN LINCOLN AND GILES AREA, RIGHT ALONG THE LINE AND HAVE ASKED NUMEROUS TIMES WHEN THIS DEBATE TRANSPIRED LAST YR. Their responses put peak rut in their area from Thanksgiving to Dec 10. so in your opinion, what is peak rut in this area. i believe alot of folks are bored and just want to squeak out a few extra days of deer season by clinging to this notion. what are normal parturition dates for deeer in these areas and where these dates place conception? i bet you have sone hard data for these areas.


The TWRA's recent fetal conception date study found there is early January breeding right along the AL border.
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#3065833 - 12/06/12 08:44 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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I'm tired of all the arguing over weapon type. Open deer season Oct. 1, run it through mid-January (for those along the AL/MS borders), and weapon choice is up to the hunter. Adjust bag limits to prevent over-harvest.


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#3065851 - 12/06/12 08:52 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bayou Buck]
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So BSK you think letting loose with guns in October will not have an impact on the rut?
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#3065871 - 12/06/12 09:08 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: scn
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count button bucks as bucks


That also would make them legal to shoot as a buck as you can't have it both ways.

So you really think it would make a big difference in the number of buck fawns killed?


it would help some. they are legal in unit L as anterless, to the tune of 3 per day so making them legal as bucks would have no adverse effect on us

Honestly do you think ANYONE has ever shot 3 button bucks in the same day ??





Where did i write that? i just feel a deer that was born a buck, should die a buck. i guess it would be a built in penalty of sorts for hunters who do not tke the time to ID a deer before pulling the trigger.


penalty for shooting a legal deer? it was id'd as a DEER!! if buttons are to be counted as bucks, the 3 inch restriction must be removed from buck only hunting and buttons should be legal.
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#3065928 - 12/06/12 09:45 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: redblood
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 Originally Posted By: scn
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count button bucks as bucks


That also would make them legal to shoot as a buck as you can't have it both ways.

So you really think it would make a big difference in the number of buck fawns killed?


it would help some. they are legal in unit L as anterless, to the tune of 3 per day so making them legal as bucks would have no adverse effect on us

Honestly do you think ANYONE has ever shot 3 button bucks in the same day ??





Where did i write that? i just feel a deer that was born a buck, should die a buck. i guess it would be a built in penalty of sorts for hunters who do not tke the time to ID a deer before pulling the trigger.


penalty for shooting a legal deer? it was id'd as a DEER!! if buttons are to be counted as bucks, the 3 inch restriction must be removed from buck only hunting and buttons should be legal.

Your almost right, make it any buck with visible polished antler, just like many other states are now! If hes got polished antler he should burn a buck tag!

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#3066024 - 12/06/12 10:57 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: UTGrad]
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So BSK you think letting loose with guns in October will not have an impact on the rut?


Impact the rut? How could hunting pressure impact a biological process driven by the length of the nights?
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#3066488 - 12/06/12 04:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Robtattoo]
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Return muzzleloader season to what it was intended to be; traditional muzzleloaders only.


Really? This would make a difference how?


Well, it'd reduce early season pressure by reducing the amount of folks in the woods for a brief period & also give those of us that hunt with traditional equipment a better chance! \:D

What you hunt with is your choice. No one forces you to hunt with old timey equipment. You hunt with yours and I will hunt with my fancy shmancy inline.
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#3066499 - 12/06/12 04:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bowdacious]
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You tell 'em Bowdacious! ;\)
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#3066585 - 12/06/12 05:13 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Robtattoo]
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 Originally Posted By: Robtattoo
Return muzzleloader season to what it was intended to be; traditional muzzleloaders only.

And get rid of those compound bows too; they're not traditional either. ;\)
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#3066589 - 12/06/12 05:16 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BMan]
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Move all gun hunting to 2 weeks in December. Reduce the overall buck limit to 2 bucks.
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#3066604 - 12/06/12 05:25 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Benkharr]
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Do away with bow season. Those selfish bow hunters don't deserve any hunting time. ;\)
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#3066644 - 12/06/12 05:52 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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If I could change any thing I would have the earn a buck program and if u killed five or more does this season u could start off the next seasone with a buck tag. For unit L
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#3066670 - 12/06/12 06:08 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Spikes]
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I'd not change too much...I like TN's program...we saw more bucks this year than I can remember in 20 years of hunting my old farm...does too for that matter.

However, if I was going to change anything I'd change the phrasing in the section "No license needed"...I'd change it from
"resident" land owners to simply "landowners". I've owned my place in TN since 1989 and I pay $251 for hunting my own land...I don't want to hunt for free but anyone that owns a home and land should be afforded the same rights as someone who lives on their land full time....This is just my opinion and if it doesn't change I won't complain...
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#3066691 - 12/06/12 06:21 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
So BSK you think letting loose with guns in October will not have an impact on the rut?


Impact the rut? How could hunting pressure impact a biological process driven by the length of the nights?


I have to disagree with you on this matter. If hunters could pick off deer from 400 yards in October, you won't see a rut. It will be at night.

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#3066778 - 12/06/12 07:04 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: timberjack86]
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Later bow draw hunt for Norris Dam. It was WAY to early in the season to hunt there. Open up more public land for hunting. Make a 3 a side rule for bucks. MAKE DEER SEASON GO UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY!
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#3066952 - 12/06/12 08:24 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: redblood]
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i would like to see an earn a buck program. stay with a three buck limit but make it where u only get a buck tag after killing a doe for each of the three buck tags you would have to take three does.
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#3067065 - 12/06/12 09:07 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: parkerxbowhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: parkerxbowhunter
i would like to see an earn a buck program. stay with a three buck limit but make it where u only get a buck tag after killing a doe for each of the three buck tags you would have to take three does.


Realistically, with online check-in, and earn a buck program would be impossible to enforce.
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#3067101 - 12/06/12 09:30 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: scn]
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Guys with private land make no changes...but I face the public hunter's mindset...which is "if I dont shoot it someone else will" the oldest deer ive seen in my 9 years hunting were 100% on private land 100%. But I dont have a choic now that my private land access was sold. I mentioned a 4 point one side restriction. After thinking on it, It would not be fair for private land owners/leasees. Rather I'd love to see the 4 pt rule apply to UNIT L WMAs only
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#3067131 - 12/06/12 09:47 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: scn]
Spikes
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 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: parkerxbowhunter
i would like to see an earn a buck program. stay with a three buck limit but make it where u only get a buck tag after killing a doe for each of the three buck tags you would have to take three does.


Realistically, with online check-in, and earn a buck program would be impossible to enforce.


If we made laws based on that theory then there would be no laws.

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#3067222 - 12/06/12 11:03 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Spikes]
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Bow hunt only all season, two weeks for muzzle and two weeks for gun!!!
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#3067233 - 12/06/12 11:13 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: DropTine21]
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 Originally Posted By: DropTine21
Bow hunt only all season, two weeks for muzzle and two weeks for gun!!!


I can only assume you are kidding when you say this.


I just wish that there were more public areas open and that there were more places for traditional gun and not just archery. I realize that some of this is a safety factor but I cant help but think that some places could allow gun. The biggest thing should be to devote more resources to hiring more patroling wildlife officers. Poachers are some of the biggest enemies that hunters face and we need more officers to help counter-act them.
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#3067345 - 12/07/12 06:28 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: DirtyBear0311]
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6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.
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#3067352 - 12/07/12 06:45 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Spikes]
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 Originally Posted By: Spikes
 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: parkerxbowhunter
i would like to see an earn a buck program. stay with a three buck limit but make it where u only get a buck tag after killing a doe for each of the three buck tags you would have to take three does.


Realistically, with online check-in, and earn a buck program would be impossible to enforce.


If we made laws based on that theory then there would be no laws.


Not theory-reality.
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#3067422 - 12/07/12 07:34 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: scn]
Spikes
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 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: Spikes
 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: parkerxbowhunter
i would like to see an earn a buck program. stay with a three buck limit but make it where u only get a buck tag after killing a doe for each of the three buck tags you would have to take three does.


Realistically, with online check-in, and earn a buck program would be impossible to enforce.


If we made laws based on that theory then there would be no laws.


Not theory-reality.


So in reality we should do away with game laws all together because they can not be enforced 100%?

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#3067497 - 12/07/12 08:14 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: UTGrad]
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
So BSK you think letting loose with guns in October will not have an impact on the rut?


Impact the rut? How could hunting pressure impact a biological process driven by the length of the nights?


I have to disagree with you on this matter. If hunters could pick off deer from 400 yards in October, you won't see a rut. It will be at night.


Oh, you mean daylight rutting activity, not the actual breeding process itself. Big difference.

The rut occurs at about the same time every year whether you are out there hunting or not. Now how much of rutting activity occurs at night versus during daylight will be influenced by many factors, especially hunting pressure and the weather.
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#3067531 - 12/07/12 08:35 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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Once again.
First off im tickled with where we are in TN concerning the deer herd, the age structure, buck to do ratio's, etc. I think the hunting, mature bucks included, is as good as its ever been and getting slowly better each year. Im fine with the buck limits as well. All that said, it would be nice to allow all hunters who buy a big game gun lic, to shoot ONE doe, in all areas that can handle it that is, which would be the majority of the state. I think this alone would save thousands of young bucks lives every year, due to many hunters who simply want to kill ANY deer, being forced to shoot a small buck out of necessity, because its the only legal deer they see.
I think this would do more to promote a higher % of young bucks to the next season than anything else, while also making MANY more hunters happy as well!
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#3067573 - 12/07/12 08:50 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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2 buck limit

either a shorter rifle season, or two rifle seasons with a break in between

bow season after rifle season lasting until Feb. 1

Stiffer penalties for poaching,

TWRA Agents that actually care

open up more rifle ranges year-round on WMA

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#3067650 - 12/07/12 09:26 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Bowdacious]
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 Originally Posted By: Bowdacious
 Originally Posted By: Robtattoo
 Originally Posted By: farmin68
 Originally Posted By: Robtattoo
Return muzzleloader season to what it was intended to be; traditional muzzleloaders only.


Really? This would make a difference how?


Well, it'd reduce early season pressure by reducing the amount of folks in the woods for a brief period & also give those of us that hunt with traditional equipment a better chance! \:D

What you hunt with is your choice. No one forces you to hunt with old timey equipment. You hunt with yours and I will hunt with my fancy shmancy inline.


HA HA HA HA.....Robtattoo....I knew you'd get hammered on this. There ain't too many of us traditional guys left. Just keep quiet and do what I do....use your side hammer or flintlock anytime you want to during the season when it's legal.

Actually, if it wasn't for the economy, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if muzzle loading season, as it stands now, was done away with.


Edited by Wobblyshot1 (12/07/12 09:27 AM)
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#3067661 - 12/07/12 09:33 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 185PY]
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 Originally Posted By: 185PY

bow season after rifle season lasting until Feb. 1



We had this in certain over populated areas in Wisconsin and it was awesome hunting if you could find a spot to hunt. It was mostly the urban areas, so small plots of land with non-hunting yuppies that complained when thier BMW would hit a deer but didn't want anyone killing deer on thier property. It was also really, REALLY cold hunting, January in Wisconsin is cold, snowy and windy. But the deer would move all the time, and someone would always get a really nice buck during that extended period.
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#3067740 - 12/07/12 10:17 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: skippy1]
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Cooler weather!
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#3068206 - 12/07/12 03:20 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: chewymalone]
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Allow children under the age of 12 to hunt with a rifle during muzzleloader season. I hate that my kids who are fired up about hunting cannot hunt during the best part of the season on my farms \:\(
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#3068208 - 12/07/12 03:21 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
Allow children under the age of 12 to hunt with a rifle during muzzleloader season. I hate that my kids who are fired up about hunting cannot hunt during the best part of the season on my farms \:\(


Why can't they? They can shoot a muzzleloader as easily as they can shoot a rifle.
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#3068225 - 12/07/12 03:38 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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My 8 yo and 10 yo cannot handle a ML. Esp the 10yo little girl. She's still a bit recoil sensitive.
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#3068252 - 12/07/12 03:57 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: megalomaniac]
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Get 'em a smaller gun & teach 'em to get closer. Plenty of deer have been killed with .40 & .45 roundballs ;\)
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#3068286 - 12/07/12 04:29 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: letsgohunting]
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 Originally Posted By: letsgohunting
Be able to use shotgun w/ slugs durning bow season or allow use of bait durning bow season only. Something that will allow more deer 2b havested durning bow season.


Get a bow and hunt the real way! ;\)


..........and NOOOOOO to the bait suggestion!! \:o
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#3068292 - 12/07/12 04:36 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Knothead]
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stop baiting period. leave the rest the way it it is.
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#3068299 - 12/07/12 04:43 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Stalkhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: NyTransplant
stop baiting period. leave the rest the way it it is.


Right there with you.

I would like to see all supplemental feeding of wildlife outlawed farther than 25 yards from a house. That way the Dickey bird people could still have their bird feeders. This would eliminate any gray area and would prevent the anti's from baiting an area to keep legitimate hunters from hunting there.
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#3068306 - 12/07/12 04:50 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Diehard Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: NyTransplant
stop baiting period. leave the rest the way it it is.


Right there with you.

I would like to see all supplemental feeding of wildlife outlawed farther than 25 yards from a house. That way the Dickey bird people could still have their bird feeders. This would eliminate any gray area and would prevent the anti's from baiting an area to keep legitimate hunters from hunting there.
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#3068320 - 12/07/12 05:02 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: NyTransplant
stop baiting period. leave the rest the way it it is.


Right there with you.

I would like to see all supplemental feeding of wildlife outlawed farther than 25 yards from a house. That way the Dickey bird people could still have their bird feeders. This would eliminate any gray area and would prevent the anti's from baiting an area to keep legitimate hunters from hunting there.
X2


and use some dang restraint. just because you can doesnt mean you have too.
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#3068330 - 12/07/12 05:15 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: NyTransplant
stop baiting period. leave the rest the way it it is.


Right there with you.

I would like to see all supplemental feeding of wildlife outlawed farther than 25 yards from a house. That way the Dickey bird people could still have their bird feeders. This would eliminate any gray area and would prevent the anti's from baiting an area to keep legitimate hunters from hunting there.
X2

X3
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#3068335 - 12/07/12 05:20 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: Diehard Hunter
 Originally Posted By: NyTransplant
stop baiting period. leave the rest the way it it is.


Right there with you.

I would like to see all supplemental feeding of wildlife outlawed farther than 25 yards from a house. That way the Dickey bird people could still have their bird feeders. This would eliminate any gray area and would prevent the anti's from baiting an area to keep legitimate hunters from hunting there.
X2
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#3068339 - 12/07/12 05:23 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Me too.

It will take changing the statute. We have been advised that it wouldn't make it through the legislature.

We have had the languge to make the change drafted for several years.
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#3068357 - 12/07/12 05:42 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: scn]
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Can we put something in about having snow for at least half of the season! \:\)

Just thought I would throw something different out there....
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#3071258 - 12/09/12 05:32 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: fourwheeler431]
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I don't think anyone has mentioned this.

I don't know how the new kill log concept works. But can a part to this change be to eliminate the temporary kill tag? If it already is, then just ignore this note.

I see no useful purpose for the temporary tag. If it is so important then lifetime license holders would not be exempt from using it on their first kill. The only thing that I have ever seen done with one is to be tossed into the trash when it is presented at a check-in station.

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#3071261 - 12/09/12 05:35 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: TNCharlie]
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yep. they seem out dated especially with telecheck
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#3071270 - 12/09/12 05:42 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Spikes]
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Earn a buck program. Kill a doe first. Then get a crack a buck. Would help the b/d ratio a lot.
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#3071307 - 12/09/12 06:07 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: thejetman]
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just leave it open year around rifles only, kill em all then everyone can agree on what we need to do. i have read the whole 22 pages im sure glad these suggestions dont make law!!!!!
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#3071394 - 12/09/12 07:07 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: knightrider]
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Telecheck and reduce the firearms season, and certainly take it out of the rut, meanwhile lengthen the entire season to Jan 31, or the beginning of September and lastly, start counting button bucks as a buck tag and remove the antlerless designation.
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#3071599 - 12/09/12 08:26 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
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Let me hunt til the end of January. I hate it getting down to the wire before I get a good one.

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#3071854 - 12/09/12 11:39 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
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 Originally Posted By: jar
6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.


What he said

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#3071885 - 12/10/12 02:35 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: DropTine21]
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ok first what is the telecheck yall been talking about? and myself earn a buck program hunter must kill a doe to take a buck.
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#3071916 - 12/10/12 05:20 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: DropTine21]
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 Originally Posted By: jar
6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.
Deer do not "live" on large or small tracks. Deer will move and live in a large area and the size of that area will vary depending on the cover, food supply, and natural features of the area. The problem with small tracks is that they get too much hunting pressure for the acreage they cover.
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#3071986 - 12/10/12 06:53 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
jar
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I know deer dont live on one specific tract but when they travel through a area like this and someone is hunting every 10 acres. , our gun season is to long. Yes these small properties do get to much hunting pressure for their size BECAUSE we have a gun season that is entirely to long.
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#3072062 - 12/10/12 07:58 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Beekeeper]
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 Originally Posted By: Beekeeper
 Originally Posted By: jar
6 weeks of gun may not be to much pressure on the deer that live on large tracts but around here with 5 -100 acre tracts it is entirely to long. For a deer to survive the gun season around here they must completely disappear and thats what they do.
Deer do not "live" on large or small tracks. Deer will move and live in a large area and the size of that area will vary depending on the cover, food supply, and natural features of the area. The problem with small tracks is that they get too much hunting pressure for the acreage they cover.

Deer do not know who owns the property, and their world is one single land mass, regardless of the land ownership patterns.

Many people are mistakenly blaming a "long gun season" for decreasing daytime deer movement when the real reason is often more just a good acorn crop, shifting food sources, and natural deer behavior (such as the buck movement essentially shutting down post-rut).

I have privy to several thousand acres of lightly hunted hill & holler land. Despite the deer density appearing higher than ever, I've had the worst deer season in many years. But it has nothing to do with "gun hunting", and everything to do with a bumper acorn crop, and now the rut being over. My lack of deer sightings also has to do with a lack of hunting skills, as even when we think we're good, we're seldom as good as we think, and the deer prove that to me, year after year.

Another change (regarding daytime deer movement) I've noticed trending over the past several years is a progressive increase in "cover" (at least across most of TN and my main hunting areas). Back in the day when most of the landscape was just open hardwoods, deer were forced (by any disturbance) to move more simply because they had no place to hide. Today, they are more inclined to just "hunker down". To what extent any "hunting" decreases daytime deer movement, I believe pre-season and archery-season "scouting" does as much or more harm than most gun hunting.

Deer are typically much more "pressured" by people walking around "scouting" in the Fall (in areas that go most of the year undisturbed), than they are by some gun hunter simply sitting on a deer stand in November.

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#3072071 - 12/10/12 08:10 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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You are comparing 1000 acres of "Lightly hunted" hiis to maybe 1000 acres of cut up land where access is behind every house. Completely different situation.
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#3072123 - 12/10/12 08:40 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
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 Originally Posted By: jar
I know deer dont live on one specific tract but when they travel through a area like this and someone is hunting every 10 acres. , our gun season is to long. Yes these small properties do get to much hunting pressure for their size BECAUSE we have a gun season that is entirely to long.


if you want to see hunting pressure, go hunt one of those week long seasons. most of the pressure on tennessee deer is opening weekend of gun and thanksgiving weekend. many hunters have quit by late season and there is not that much pressure on the deer. i love our long season
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#3072214 - 12/10/12 09:33 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
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 Originally Posted By: jar
You are comparing 1000 acres of "Lightly hunted" hiis to maybe 1000 acres of cut up land where access is behind every house. Completely different situation.

You missed my point.
My point was that the deer weren't moving much during daylight, even with less gun hunting.

 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
Many people are mistakenly blaming a "long gun season" for decreasing daytime deer movement when the real reason is often more just a good acorn crop, shifting food sources, and natural deer behavior (such as the buck movement essentially shutting down post-rut).

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#3072240 - 12/10/12 09:43 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: stik]
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Maybe the deer hunters where you hunt are finished with the deer but around here people hunt to the last day. Sat. morning probably 10 -12 shots spread out up and down the road.
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#3072258 - 12/10/12 09:50 AM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: jar]
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 Originally Posted By: jar
Maybe the deer hunters where you hunt are finished with the deer but around here people hunt to the last day. Sat. morning probably 10 -12 shots spread out up and down the road.

Not saying there aren't regional differences, and some areas are under a lot more pressure.

But is the problem too long a gun season, or too long a deer season (archery, muzzleloader, and gun)?

Or is the problem just too many people hunting the area, regardless of how many days the season is open?

If you want to see some real "pressure", there are many places in states with short gun seasons that are under a lot more pressure than most of Tennessee.

Where I killed my first deer, that spot is now surrounded by houses. It's still outside the city limits, and I could still deer hunt there. But the problem is too many people (AND THEIR DOGS!) around there, nothing to do with the deer seasons. Those deer are under a lot of "pressure" (mainly from all the free-roaming dogs).

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#3072659 - 12/10/12 02:12 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I know we're not really voting but I'll throw in my 2 cents.

- Seasons and bag limits are fine as is.
- 2 buck limit would be fine, but 3 is fine also.
- I'm fine with current weapon structure (crossbows during bow season, in-lines during mz, etc)
- I'm fine with season start and end dates
- I'm fine with people feeding wildlife, as long as they're not hunting over it. IMO, people have just as much right to feed wildlife for the purpose of viewing as hunters have to plant food plots for the purpose of hunting. The wildlife is "owned" by the state, which includes hunters and non-hunters.
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#3072794 - 12/10/12 03:19 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: 102]
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My rule that I'll always mention is muzzleloader or shotgun. Modern ml's are more accurate. Maybe an early archery/no x-bow season like some states do.
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#3072817 - 12/10/12 03:25 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: JeepKuntry]
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i think it funny how people blame guns for pressured deer. deer hear loud noises all the time, it is nothing more than scent and people jumping deer which happens durin bow,muzzleloader and rifle.
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#3074409 - 12/11/12 01:46 PM Re: what changes would you like to see in 2013 -2014 [Re: JeepKuntry]
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
Maybe an early archery/no x-bow season like some states do.

Why not make it an "early cross-bow season/no compound-bow season"?


Edited by BigAl (12/11/12 01:46 PM)
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