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#3056366 - 11/30/12 08:04 AM Do you support companies who don't support you?
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Election Cycle political donations, as reported by the Center for Responsive Politics.
Shopping
Price Club/Costco donated $225K, 99% went to Democrats
Rite Aid donated $517K, 60% went to Democrats
Magla Products (Stanley tools, Mr. Clean) donated $22K, 100% went to Democrats
Warnaco (undergarments) donated $55K, 73% went to Democrats
Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia donated $153K, 99% went to Democrats
Estee Lauder donated $448K, 95% went to Democrats
Guess, Inc. Donated $145K, 98% went to Democrats
Calvin Klein donated $78K, 100% went to Democrats
Liz Claiborne, Inc. Donated $34K, 97% went to Democrats
Levi Straus donated $26K, 97% went to Democrats
Olan Mills donated $175K, 99% went to Democrats
WalMart donated $467K, 97% went to Republicans
K-Mart donated $524K, 86% went to Republicans
Home Depot donated $298K, 89% went to Republicans
Target donated $226K, 70% went to Republicans
Circuit City Stores donated $261K, 95% went to Republicans
3M Co. Donated $281K, 87% went to Republicans
Hallmark Cards donated $319K, 92% went to Republicans
Amway donated $391K, 100% Republicans
Kohler Co. (plumbing fixtures) donated $283K, 100% Republicans
B.F. Goodrich (tires) donated $215K, 97% went to Republicans
Proctor & Gamble donated $243K, 79% went to Republicans
Spirits
Southern Wine & Spirits donated $213K, 73% went to Democrats
Joseph E. Seagrams & Sons (incl. Beverage Business and considerable media interests) donated $2M+, 67% went to Democrats
Gallo Winery donated $337K, 95% went to Democrats
Coors & Budweiser donated $174K, 92% went to Republicans
Brown-Forman Corp. (Southern Comfort, Jack Daniels, Bushmills, Korbel Wines, Lenox China , Dansk and Gorham Silver) donated $644 K -- 80% went to Republicans
Hungry?
Sonic Corporation donated $83K, 98% went to Democrats
Triarc Companies (Arby's, T.J. Cinnamon's, Pasta Connections) donated $112K, 96% went to Democrats
Pilgrim's Pride Corp. (chicken) donated $366K, 100% went to Republicans
Outback Steakhouse donated $641K, 95% went to Republicans
Tricon Global Restaurants (KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell) donated $133K, 87% went to Republicans
Brinker International (Maggiano's, Brinker Cafe, Chili's, On the Border, Macaroni Grill, Crazymel's, Corner Baker, EatZis) donated $242K, 83% went to Republicans
Waffle House donated $279K, 100% went to Republicans
McDonald's Corp. Donated $197K, 86% went to Republicans
Darden Restaurants (Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Smokey Bones, Bahama Breeze) donated $121K, 89% went to Republicans
Heinz Republicans $64,000 Democrats $21,300! John Kerry's wife's company!!!
Traveling and/or dining
Hyatt Corporation donated $187K of which 80% went to Democrats
Marriott International $323K, 81% went to Republicans
Holiday Inns donated $38K, 71% went to Republicans

http://www.opensecrets.org/
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#3056379 - 11/30/12 08:09 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Waffle House donated $279K, 100% went to Republicans
As anti gun as they are,thats a shocker.
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#3056390 - 11/30/12 08:14 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: cecil30-30]
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I can't confirm the accuracy of any of these contributions.

I posted it for a forum member. Feel free to research and discredit the list. It will make a good discussion.
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#3056554 - 11/30/12 09:35 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Crappie Luck]
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thanks for posting that. If it's accurate it's a good start... I know where I'll be spending my $... Currently spending it at the Marriott here in NJ for the next 3 weeks.
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#3057164 - 11/30/12 04:28 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Rebel]
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Wonder who this company donated to?

http://www.thesnuggery.org/media.html
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#3057430 - 11/30/12 07:36 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
Waffle House donated $279K, 100% went to Republicans
As anti gun as they are,thats a shocker.

Why do you say they're antigun? I've never seen a posted WH, and in fact have been in more than one that had people openly carrying.
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#3057454 - 11/30/12 07:44 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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Every waffle house has a big yellow sign hanging outside their door that says that they do not allow anyone to carry a handgun on their property.Even if you have your handgun carry permit..If thats not anti gun, I don't know what is.
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#3057460 - 11/30/12 07:47 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Every waffle house has a big yellow sign hanging outside their door that says that they do not allow anyone to carry a handgun on their property.Even if you have your handgun carry permit..If thats not anti gun, I don't know what is.

Not the ones near where I live...

Sure it's not just a franchisee issue?
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#3057956 - 12/01/12 08:27 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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I look at it as a personal/business rights issue. If they don't want them, I may not like it but I respect it. Better than the gubment telling me.
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#3058310 - 12/01/12 02:24 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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How can any business fathom giving money to a Democrat?
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#3058326 - 12/01/12 02:37 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: AndyW]
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Protection money. Just like when Chicago gangs made store owners pay up.
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#3059239 - 12/02/12 08:32 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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This is a preposterous topic. The idea that nothing republicans do benefits democrats and nothing democrats do benefits republicans is part of the problem with the mindsets within the two-party system. Surely you don't mean that we're all either one party or the other. I'd hope we're a little more complex than that.

Let's try to be a little more open-minded.
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#3059299 - 12/02/12 09:43 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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 Originally Posted By: guthooked
This is a preposterous topic.

Let's try to be a little more open-minded.

LOVE the irony...
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#3059304 - 12/02/12 09:47 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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Irony? the premise of this thread is that only one party or the other supports your ideas and beliefs. You honestly think that everything about republican beliefs benefits you and nothing about democratic beliefs benefits you?

I personally find myself in the middle on quite a few things. Perhaps the best example is several parts of the patriot act that i'm pretty sure none of you are comfortable with. Passed by republicans and a total infringement on your privacy...

It is preposterous and naive to believe that the world is as polar as our current two party system makes it out to be.


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#3059307 - 12/02/12 09:53 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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It's as though the world has forgotten that there can be open-mindedness. I'm reminded of Paul... " Everything is permissible; not everything is beneficial" . Truthfully, that's a pretty open-minded non-polarizing world view. Is there a reason we can't espouse such a philosophy?
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#3059308 - 12/02/12 09:54 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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The IRONY is that you discount everyone else's opinion, while you present your own and claim it is the only valid one.

Typical libtard argument.
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#3059328 - 12/02/12 10:06 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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Are your ideas and beliefs encompassed totally by one party? Your fine with those parts of the patriot act that appear to be a violation of the fourth amendment?

I don't discount their opinions. I just want people to be a little more thorough with their thinking. Perhaps i shouldn't have used the word preposterous. I'm sorry if that's what offended you.

I'm not sure that you have any reason to start calling me names though...
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#3059330 - 12/02/12 10:07 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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Btw, I guess i'm the typical Libtard that quotes the bible too...
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#3059385 - 12/02/12 10:52 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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I didn't call you a name; I accurately stated your political affiliation which, try as you might to disguise, shines through in your posts.

Radical muslims quote the bible also; doesn't change who or what they are.

Nice try, though.
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#3059387 - 12/02/12 10:55 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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And by the way, I'm not a Republican; sorry to burst your bubble.
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#3059433 - 12/02/12 11:48 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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How have you accurately summed up my political views?

Here, I'll do it for you since you've got my number...

Personal rights:
I think all people should be able to do pretty much what they want as long as it doesn't hurt others. I think i should be able to own guns, lots of em, and any kind. I think marijuana should be legalized like alcohol. I think people should be able to marry who they want (but i'm fine if you want to call it a civil union). I think the government shouldn't be able to monitor, torture, or jail anyone without a clear, appropriate charge.

Domestic Policy: I support a flat tax (as a tax is necessary for maintenance). if not, then no tax. I don't support bailouts. (so i guess i'm like one of the "occupy wallstreet libs" ... But i know the bailouts are to benefit the nation, not the corrupt individuals. ) But i'm bank bailouts and car bailouts. I'm fine with drilling, coal mining, etc. I do think however those companies need to monitor their environmental impact (as then they start to hurt others...). Since most of us were immigrants I'm pretty loose on immigration. Immigration policies are far stricter now than they were then (and more rules are bad, not good). I support capitalism, which kind of supports immigrants... They want to work.

I'm not a fan of unions because i see them as a socialist practice that falsely impacts capitalist practices.

I support the push for states' rights over federal rights...

Foreign Policy:

I think we shouldn't support israel or really any other "allies" to much. It's the favoritism that get's us into fights that aren't ours. I don't want us to police the world. I am find with us supporting our own interests, but i think we should be clear about when we're doing that.

I'm not a big fan of a war unless there is a direct attack on us and the enemy is a clear one.


So, am I a libtard? doubt it. I celebrate and support liberty.

But I'm also not a Democrat or a Republican in a cleancut manner. And my point, even if i said it in a less than eloquent manner, is that most of you probably have complex world views as well.
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#3059483 - 12/02/12 12:39 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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When did you decide a flat tax was good? Just last week, you stated this:

"the richest still pay a considerably lower rate than they should."

Doesn't sound like someone in favor of a flat tax; sounds like someone who is trying to hide their past statements.

You already outed yourself; deal with it.
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#3059701 - 12/02/12 03:42 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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Looks like we'd benefit from a rational moderator to step in here.

As for the quote, context matters. As you know, that quote, "the richest still pay a considerably lower rate than they should." was in reference to the fact that Income tax data provided by the IRS showed that those who make over five million a year pay a 20% tax rate (about) while those who make 1-5 million a year pay about 24-25%. I didn't speak in favor of a graduated tax system or a flat tax system. But, what is represented in the data of the IRS is an inverse system above income of 1million a year. My statement that that "shouldn't be" is still true even if i believe in flat taxes.

I'm not a liar. I wasn't lying when i told you my beliefs. You've still not answered my first point though. Do you honestly think the republican or democratic party wholly encompasses your beliefs in their platforms?


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#3060007 - 12/02/12 06:42 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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gutshot has fallen for the old talking point statistic game.

(in other words lies)

When he says people "making" $5mil + only pay 20% "income tax" he has been fooled. NOBODY "making" over $100K in INCOME pays 20% in INCOME TAXES, they pay WAY WAY more.

When you blend CAPITAL GAINS in with REGULAR income, you can get the TOTAL "income tax including capital gains taxes" RATE averaged down to 20%.

That means those evil rich guys pay taxes on the money they EARN, then take substantial risk INVESTING that money, then get the "privilege" of paying TAX again on any gains they make on the money they already paid taxes on. That is called CAPITAL GAINS TAX and it has been taxed at a lower rate to encourage people to INVEST their extra money thereby growing the economy.

SO its a big lie to say someone "made" $5mil + and only paid and effective 20% INCOME TAX rate.



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#3060022 - 12/02/12 06:55 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: fishboy1]
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http://www.irs.gov/PUP/taxstats/productsandpubs/12infallbulincome.pdf

Here's the numbers again. Page 11 has the numbers we're talking about. They're the IRS's numbers. Actually, it's ppl over 10 mil a year pay 22% while 1-9 million a year pay about 25%. Again, that's the stats of the IRS, not mine.

Let me reiterate: I support a flat tax and believe that most people are not solely republican or democrat in their own beliefs...


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#3060026 - 12/02/12 06:57 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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Question, if Capital gains are income, should they be taxed at a different rate than regular income?
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#3060078 - 12/02/12 07:21 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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Capital gains come from INVESTMENTS. When YOU sell your house for more than you paid then that's capitial gains. Anything of vaule that you bought and held is investment.

If you buy and sell every day that's TRADING and NOT investment.

When you buy stocks and then turn around and sell them you are NOT investing but trading, I've been doing it every weekday for 22 years.

Auto dealers buy and sell autos everyday so do stock traders, gas traders, farmers, etc,etc. They TRADE in their products. they make money in two ways, they can draw a salary from their company and/or they can take the money from their trading as income. It's all there in their tax forms.

Someone works all his life and INVESTS in in certain things along the way, stocks, bonds, land, gold, mutual funds, etc, etc. Over time those INVESTMENTS will gain vaule or/and lose vaule but we all HOPE then will increase in vaule.

Should that man have his INVESTMENTS taxed as income?? NO, they were NOT part of his regular income. This man is now retiring and living off his INVESTMENTS, things HE PUT HIS MONEY INTO so it would GROW.
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#3060103 - 12/02/12 07:29 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Wildcat]
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By the way while we are on this subject there are a few things people should know about Warren Buffett.

First off Buffet has been fighting the IRS for 12 years over $1 BILLION in back taxes he owns. Since he became buddy/buddy with Obama the IRS has backed off.

As for Warren Buffett's secretary, don't feel sorry for her. The poor thing only makes $3 Million a year and her husband makes $20 million a year.
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#3060105 - 12/02/12 07:30 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Wildcat]
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Wildcat, I have no opinion 'cause my only investment is my house. I was just asking for thoughts. Btw, do you think one the parties accurately reflect and encompass all of your political beliefs?
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#3060171 - 12/02/12 07:57 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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I dont know about anybody else but I dont. I dont agree with anybody all the time.
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#3060177 - 12/02/12 07:59 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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I could care less about your initial question; its irrelevant to my comment. I was pointing out that you called the topic preposterous - in other words, you condemned the very basis of the topic - then, told everyone to be open-minded. Irony is such a lovely thing, and you can't even see that your comment epitomized irony. (There's another word for you look up in the dictionary).

And context is definitely important: you stated that someone should have more of his income stolen from him than was being stolen. The context? The sweat of someone's brow, the money earned by their efforts, was being stolen - but you felt more of it should be stolen. Your words, sonny, not mine or anyone else's, and they are the mantra of libtards across the country.

You can't run from them now, no matter how hard you try, so quit digging while you can.
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#3060179 - 12/02/12 07:59 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Wildcat]
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Sawman, Me either. That was my whole point... Thanks for the input.
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#3060182 - 12/02/12 08:00 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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 Originally Posted By: guthooked
Wildcat, I have no opinion 'cause my only investment is my house. I was just asking for thoughts. Btw, do you think one the parties accurately reflect and encompass all of your political beliefs?


So you didn't make any investments other than your house but if ANYBODY ELSE did make more invertments with HIS OWN MONEY do you want to tax HIM a HIGHER RATE???

As for the question. The Republican Party reflects MOST of my political beliefts.

To say any one party reflects ALL ones's political beliefts would be an outright lie!!!!

Just take a look at Ron Paul, he was a Republican all his adult life and obnly swiched parties one time to run for president but once the election was over he swiched back to Republican.

You want more than 2 parties, take a look at England, Greece, France, Spain, Japan, South Korea, etc just look how well they are doing, look at all the dirt they throw out in their parliaments and ever the fist fights they get into while voting on bills.

Or if you would rather have a one party system you can look at Cubia, China, North Korea.
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#3061049 - 12/03/12 10:56 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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I guess if you believe in everything, you're supported by both sides....
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#3061818 - 12/03/12 07:03 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: BMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BMan
I could care less about your initial question; its irrelevant to my comment. (There's another word for you look up in the dictionary).

Your words, sonny, not mine or anyone else's, and they are the mantra of libtards across the country.

You can't run from them now, no matter how hard you try, so quit digging while you can.


I'm pretty sure I almost immediately apologized for the word preposterous. You've called me a liar, implied that I don't know your "big" words, and called me sonny. Have I offended you someplace other than cyber world that you are being such a butt?

I told you what I thought, that was all.
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#3061831 - 12/03/12 07:08 PM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: guthooked
Wildcat, I have no opinion 'cause my only investment is my house. I was just asking for thoughts. Btw, do you think one the parties accurately reflect and encompass all of your political beliefs?


So you didn't make any investments other than your house but if ANYBODY ELSE did make more invertments with HIS OWN MONEY do you want to tax HIM a HIGHER RATE???



I didn't say I want anybody taxed at a higher rate. I used the word "should" as in, under the graduated tax model the wealthiest "should" be taxed more. I'm personally for a flat tax.
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#3062492 - 12/04/12 07:02 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: guthooked]
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Under the "Progressive" communist tax model ie...Graduated tax....
The wealthy ARE taxed more.

The wealthiest 2% of Americans pay 60% of the taxes collected.
Look at the total tax dollars they pay vs. the poor and middle class.
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#3062528 - 12/04/12 07:52 AM Re: Do you support companies who don't support you? [Re: fishboy1]
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
Under the "Progressive" communist tax model ie...Graduated tax....
The wealthy ARE taxed more.



Yep! Hey - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need!
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To be fair, we can now blame everything on everything else-Wildcat

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