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#3052677 - 11/28/12 06:03 AM Anyone still think it's about revenue???
BMan
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Despite common sense showing that the country has a SPENDING problem rather than a TAX problem, some fools still believe that taxing the rich will solve the deficit problem and that the (D)imwit party wants to reign in the deficit.

For the idiots who believe that train of thought, prepare to be disappointed - again.

Durbin: No Entitlement Cuts In Fiscal Cliff Discussions

Members of both parties discussed cuts to entitlement programs earlier this month in a meeting with Obama as a way to bring about deficit reduction. According to the Office of Management and Budget, the sum total of US entitlement programs — including Social Security — make up a projected 62.4 percent of the federal budget in 2012.

So we need to cut raise taxes and gut the military - because money going to the takers is hands off.

Fools.
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#3052916 - 11/28/12 07:54 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: BMan]
preds1
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Barry racks up $6 trillion in debt and now Dems are worried about the deficit? Yea.....no.
They created a crisis to "fix" as an alleyway to redistrubute even more to their base.

They're no different than a junkie rummaging through the couch to find loose change.
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#3052920 - 11/28/12 07:56 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: BMan]
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The best thing for the us would be to go off the cliff if we don't we will never learn.
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#3052982 - 11/28/12 08:39 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: waynesworld]
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I'm all for cliffs and government shutdowns. These will disproportionately affect the takers and even though the pubs will get the blame via the state run media, the looters aren't voting for the R candidate anyway.
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#3053022 - 11/28/12 09:01 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: de novo]
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I agree but our problem is that the Repub party is the Dem parties b*(%ch. They can't control the dialogue, they can't grow a pair and they can't keep promises to their voters.

They are, perhaps, worse than democrats.
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#3053133 - 11/28/12 09:57 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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We have a Anti-Colonial Marxist in the White House who is hell bent on bringing the USA to her knees. He has 4 years to do it and I predict will get it done in 2 or less.

Of you haven't seen Obama 2016 yet you need to.
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#3053305 - 11/28/12 12:14 PM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: waynesworld]
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 Originally Posted By: waynesworld
The best thing for the us would be to go off the cliff if we don't we will never learn.


Totally agree. A slow decent into the Abyss will only make the vast majority of takers get used to it.
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#3054631 - 11/29/12 08:30 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Still-n-Quiet]
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I want them to play a waiting game. We are quickly closig in on the 16.3T debt celing. That will really tighten the vice on them.

http://usdebtclock.org/
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#3062363 - 12/04/12 04:26 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: JWW4]
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I vote to take the "cliff" as well. Its not even that big a deal really. They state all the numbers in terms of 10 years to make them sound bigger, as if any tax or spending legislation ever stayed unchanged for ten years.

Balancing the budget and then paying down the debt will never be easy, and the longer the wait, the bigger the mess. Can you think of a bigger waste of money than the $400B paid annually on the debt? Isn't that like $1,000 a year in interest payments for every person in the US (or maybe $5,000 for every tax payer).

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#3062493 - 12/04/12 07:06 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Swampster]
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 Originally Posted By: Swampster
I vote to take the "cliff" as well. Its not even that big a deal really. They state all the numbers in terms of 10 years to make them sound bigger, as if any tax or spending legislation ever stayed unchanged for ten years.

Balancing the budget and then paying down the debt will never be easy, and the longer the wait, the bigger the mess. Can you think of a bigger waste of money than the $400B paid annually on the debt? Isn't that like $1,000 a year in interest payments for every person in the US (or maybe $5,000 for every tax payer).


Yes and no.

I agree 100% let us go over the cliff but at the same time it IS A BIG DEAL.

The Bush Tax CUTS expair Dec 31 as does Obama's Social Security Cuts. EVERYBODY'S taxs will go UP back to the rates of 12 years ago starting Jan 1, 2013. Come April 2014 the average American tax payer will be paying an extra $2,500 - $3,500 overthe year before on the same amount of money he made. So yes it's a big deal for them but it's their own fault.
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#3062581 - 12/04/12 08:23 AM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Wildcat]
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The so-called "Fiscal Cliff" is just a temporary instance of the bigger economic cliff that is to come. Doesn't really matter, now. We are going off, and probably (hopefully!) hard and fast.

Nothing can stop this train, now.
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#3062992 - 12/04/12 12:35 PM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Swampster
I vote to take the "cliff" as well. Its not even that big a deal really. They state all the numbers in terms of 10 years to make them sound bigger, as if any tax or spending legislation ever stayed unchanged for ten years.

Balancing the budget and then paying down the debt will never be easy, and the longer the wait, the bigger the mess. Can you think of a bigger waste of money than the $400B paid annually on the debt? Isn't that like $1,000 a year in interest payments for every person in the US (or maybe $5,000 for every tax payer).


Yes and no.

I agree 100% let us go over the cliff but at the same time it IS A BIG DEAL.

The Bush Tax CUTS expair Dec 31 as does Obama's Social Security Cuts. EVERYBODY'S taxs will go UP back to the rates of 12 years ago starting Jan 1, 2013. Come April 2014 the average American tax payer will be paying an extra $2,500 - $3,500 overthe year before on the same amount of money he made. So yes it's a big deal for them but it's their own fault.


How many of them pay NO INCOME TAXES?
Its not like they will be asked to pay their tax burden with the EBT card.
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#3063274 - 12/04/12 03:12 PM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Hoss]
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 Originally Posted By: Hoss
 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Swampster
I vote to take the "cliff" as well. Its not even that big a deal really. They state all the numbers in terms of 10 years to make them sound bigger, as if any tax or spending legislation ever stayed unchanged for ten years.

Balancing the budget and then paying down the debt will never be easy, and the longer the wait, the bigger the mess. Can you think of a bigger waste of money than the $400B paid annually on the debt? Isn't that like $1,000 a year in interest payments for every person in the US (or maybe $5,000 for every tax payer).


Yes and no.

I agree 100% let us go over the cliff but at the same time it IS A BIG DEAL.

The Bush Tax CUTS expair Dec 31 as does Obama's Social Security Cuts. EVERYBODY'S taxs will go UP back to the rates of 12 years ago starting Jan 1, 2013. Come April 2014 the average American tax payer will be paying an extra $2,500 - $3,500 overthe year before on the same amount of money he made. So yes it's a big deal for them but it's their own fault.


How many of them pay NO INCOME TAXES?
Its not like they will be asked to pay their tax burden with the EBT card.


I think you misunderstood what I posted.

If they pay NO INCOME TAXES then they are NOT TAXPAYERS.

YOU, ME, and just about everybody on here on Tndeer that pays taxes WILL see our taxes INCREASE starting Jan 1, 2013.
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#3063390 - 12/04/12 04:08 PM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: Wildcat]
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The freeloaders will pay and pay dearly.
Its called inflation or hyperinflation.

That $1200 a month in free gub-u-munt money isn't going to be such a great deal when it only buys enough food and electricity for 12 days.
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#3063400 - 12/04/12 04:10 PM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: fishboy1]
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But to another looter, That $1200 is STILL worth killing for.
Let them eat each other. I don'tcare.
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#3063514 - 12/04/12 05:10 PM Re: Anyone still think it's about revenue??? [Re: fishboy1]
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
The freeloaders will pay and pay dearly.
Its called inflation or hyperinflation.

That $1200 a month in free gub-u-munt money isn't going to be such a great deal when it only buys enough food and electricity for 12 days.


No they won't—they won't suffer a bit! Inflation/hyperinflation just gives the government further license to fleece the suppliers further and redistribute to the takers. This entire issue is the same as the healthcare/Obamacare law—it is not, and never has been about what it appears to be on the surface....it is solely about government control and growing that control to excessive amounts where the governed become so tightly bound that they become slaves to the big and mighty government that controls everything.
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