#3050521 - 11/26/12 08:15 PM
Need Help TWRA Guys!
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nick2720
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I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask,I'm not sure if y'all can share any info but I am graduating in two weeks with a bachelors in wildlife biology and have opted to take fisheries classes too so I could be certified. I have been a temp employee with fish and wildlife for the past two years here in west TN refuges. they are trying to place me but with budgets being cut the future doesn't look to promising. do you know if any slots are opening soon with TWRA and have any opinion on which I should pursue employment with. Any help or input would be appreciated!
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#3050530 - 11/26/12 08:21 PM
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I am not aware of any positions in the near future. It will be next August before we hire officers again.
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#3050558 - 11/26/12 08:35 PM
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nick2720
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Thanks for the info, is TWRA pretty competitive, I'm really only aware of how the F&W service is and its so hard to get hired in outright. either have to work temp or intern. the fed budget is so bad I've been told veterans are applying for entry level jobs?
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#3050583 - 11/26/12 08:43 PM
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Things are tough all over. I would strongly suggest graduate school if you want to be competitive in the future. Sure you can get a job with a BS if you are top of the heap, but why not get an advanced degree? Most programs will pay your tuition and you can earn a stipend to boot, and you get great experience. If you have been working with fish and wildlife, you may have run into Baron Crawford out there in west tennessee. If so, he got his start with the park service after doing graduate work on red wolves in the park. If you are at UT Martin, then you can talk to Eric pelren. He did his graduate work at UTK and ended up staying in the UT system. The majority of my friends that I went to graduate school with ended up working with or for the agencies they were researching with.
Graduate school opens up so many opportunities, you really should consider it.
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#3050639 - 11/26/12 08:58 PM
Re: Need Help TWRA Guys!
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nick2720
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Yeah graduate school is a thought, really.just ready to be done I transferred into martin and lost 20 credits that didn't transfer, then I took additional fish classes for the other option. all I all I've spent a extra 1.5 years almost as long as I woulda done a graduate program. I have met barren he is a nice guy I worked under Randy cook actually in west ten refuges met a lot of contacts but just seems they have to wait on Washington to know where and if I'll get to go somewhere. if I wouldn't have transferred and lost credits I would do graduate program. I just need a job now honestly my parents don't help.any with college I've had to do it without any help, with saying that ha ha I'm a broke college kid needing to make some money. I've always. worked during school just need.better pay. currently I work part time for the city at park and recreation department. I at.least do have a backup, a guy is retiring and they are hiring me full time in 3 weeks. it s just not what I wanna do in life , trying to get a wildlife job. just sucks fish and wildlife have me certified with equipment and other stuff, you would think with the time and money invested they would find something for me but who knows what will happen
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#3050705 - 11/26/12 09:25 PM
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Yeah graduate school is a thought, really.just ready to be done I transferred into martin and lost 20 credits that didn't transfer, then I took additional fish classes for the other option. all I all I've spent a extra 1.5 years almost as long as I woulda done a graduate program. I have met barren he is a nice guy I worked under Randy cook actually in west ten refuges met a lot of contacts but just seems they have to wait on Washington to know where and if I'll get to go somewhere. if I wouldn't have transferred and lost credits I would do graduate program. I just need a job now honestly my parents don't help.any with college I've had to do it without any help, with saying that ha ha I'm a broke college kid needing to make some money. I've always. worked during school just need.better pay. currently I work part time for the city at park and recreation department. I at.least do have a backup, a guy is retiring and they are hiring me full time in 3 weeks. it s just not what I wanna do in life , trying to get a wildlife job. just sucks fish and wildlife have me certified with equipment and other stuff, you would think with the time and money invested they would find something for me but who knows what will happen
Your a better man than me. I started out at Martin to be a wildlife biologist but there wasn't enough money in it, oh well
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#3050728 - 11/26/12 09:37 PM
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nick2720
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yeah haha, well I grew up learning you better love your job and what you do or you will be miserable. definitely something I've wanted to do since I was a kid always said the only thing is go to school for is it and that's what happened. form the time I've spent with fish.and wildlife it really is.rewarding just by going out everyday on the refuges. just nice to be out there everyday doing stuff you.like to do and better yet get paid for it!
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#3051073 - 11/27/12 07:49 AM
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I understand your concerns, I was in EXACTLY the same boat. Look at it this way. Now is the time in your life when you can afford to be broke, if that makes sense. When you end up married with children, a mortgage, car payments, etc. you lose the options.
Like I said most graduate programs in wildlife will cover your tuition room and board, and pay you a stipend. I was literally paid to go to school, and I made enough to get by. When I got out, I had a lot more options.
If you are seriously looking for something right now, the US Forest Service is hiring people for fire crews all over the country. There were some positions here in Tennessee too. Check out USAjobs.
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#3051341 - 11/27/12 10:50 AM
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nick2720
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yeah I saw the posting online on USA jobs bit arnt those just temp positions. by the way thanks for the input. hopefully come January I will.know something from feds. they are trying to give me something but just waiting on Washington to give final approval
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#3052913 - 11/28/12 07:52 AM
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Don't forget to look at the Department of Health we have some jobs at our Labs not sure of the title but when I walked through the lab I saw them looking at water samples and where they cut the fish up. I told them next time they go collect the fish to give me a call as I think as a budget director I should observe that first hand.  They just laughed.
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#3053056 - 11/28/12 09:22 AM
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nick2720
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haha that is a place I didn't think to look at. do y'all hire techs to collect data?
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#3053485 - 11/28/12 02:35 PM
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yeah I saw the posting online on USA jobs bit arnt those just temp positions. by the way thanks for the input. hopefully come January I will.know something from feds. they are trying to give me something but just waiting on Washington to give final approval
My suggestion. Go get a Masters Degree at a different school than where you got your BS. While you are getting your masters in wildlife or fisheries, get your MBA at the same time. It will be hard, but you will be much marketable when you get out. Finding smart biologists is easy. Finding people that can manage something and that understand business is difficult. It sets you up for the private sector doing wildlife work, and if you want to, you can get a good job outside of the wildlife profession with your MBA.
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#3054519 - 11/29/12 07:14 AM
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waynesworld
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haha that is a place I didn't think to look at. do y'all hire techs to collect data?
Not sure what they do but we have biologist and lab tec's and a lot of chemist.
Also look at environmental and conversation they do the water samples that we do the testing for. The state has a lot more employment opportunities then people thing but it is hard to find them all.
Also this is a link to neo gov a lot of different gov jobs are posted her.
https://www.governmentjobs.com/js_login.cfm?
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#3059184 - 12/02/12 07:48 AM
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Just for S&G, but what do Wildlife Officers start out at now days?
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#3059189 - 12/02/12 07:51 AM
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Diehard Hunter
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Just for S&G, but what do Wildlife Officers start out at now days?
A lot more than they did when we got out of school!!! These were the 2007 numbers.
http://www.tn.gov/twra/pdfs/employinfo.pdf
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#3059205 - 12/02/12 08:05 AM
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jar
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Good luck with you job search, maybe Obama can find you something
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#3059229 - 12/02/12 08:23 AM
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waynesworld
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Not enough if u ask me if u are looking at that old table i think you may add 5 percent as the pay raises have been lacking prior years.
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#3059234 - 12/02/12 08:28 AM
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Diehard Hunter
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Pay raises have been lacking since then as well. The state has been very stingy the last 5 years.
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#3059262 - 12/02/12 08:58 AM
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Ya the 2.5 we got will not cover the extra in med bills the ins is not covering. But i am still happy to be working
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#3059264 - 12/02/12 09:01 AM
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nick2720
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Good luck with you job search, maybe Obama can find you something
HaHa, yeah right, Obama is the reason my position with federal is slimming down. they were thinking if Romney got in then I would have a good chance at getting something, now half the guys I know are worried about losing their jobs. almost a 360 of what the were expecting. fed budget.is getting.hit hard for them. I saw some figures and emails over the summer talking about it and its.crazy how much they are cut over the past 2 years I was there and what they are.going to cut...
Thanks Obama, but who knows maybe his change will help.me out somehow but doubtfull
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