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BCS TOP TEN (6 of 10 are SEC)
1 Notre Dame (IND)
2 Alabama (SEC)
3 Georgia (SEC)
4 Florida (SEC)
5 Oregon (PAC12)
6 Kansas State (BIG 12)
7 LSU (SEC)
8 Stanford (PAC 12)
9 Texas A&M (SEC)
10 South Carolina (SEC)
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#3048726 - 11/25/12 07:52 PM
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I am a UT fan and doubt UG can beat Bama but it would be awesome to see a ND/UG NC, but I guess ND/ Bama will be ok too....
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#3048745 - 11/25/12 07:57 PM
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I would love to see Georgia roll the tide and then play the Irish.
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#3048806 - 11/25/12 08:21 PM
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I would love to see ND put a hundered on Bama aint gonna happen but i would like to see it
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#3048844 - 11/25/12 08:48 PM
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Three 2 loss teams in top 10 is a joke.
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#3048860 - 11/25/12 09:02 PM
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Rutman, who is left out with one loss?
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#3048882 - 11/25/12 09:16 PM
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Rutman, who is left out with one loss?
Nobody now, but there was a time. My point is teams with 2 losses get in the top 10 and stay there just because they are SEC.
The SEC does have some great teams, but the SEC as a whole is not great.
When you stack them in the top 10 in AP poll and then in BCS poll and leave them there with 2 losses or less, then the SEC will always have the best shot at a NC.
The SEC will not let everyone in and college football should be about more than just one conference.
Just my take on it, but SEC lovers see things a little differently.
GO IRISH !!!! BTW, I'm NOT a ND fan,lol.
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#3048896 - 11/25/12 09:28 PM
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I wish ND and Ala-damma would go to a sextuple Overtime and finish in a 0-0 tie, after each comitting 12 turnovers apiece.
Hate 'em both, and Florida too.
With that being said, I hope UGA beats 'Damma and then the Golden overrated-afraid-to-join-a-real-conference Doofuses.
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#3048897 - 11/25/12 09:29 PM
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Who are the non-SEC people gonna hate on when the four team "playoff" starts after next year? The SEC will continue to be strong in it's first four or five spots, unlike any other conference. Until the other conferences step it up some, it isn't going to change.
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#3048905 - 11/25/12 09:34 PM
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I wish ND and Ala-damma would go to a sextuple Overtime and finish in a 0-0 tie, after each comitting 12 turnovers apiece.
Hate 'em both, and Florida too.
With that being said, I hope UGA beats 'Damma and then the Golden overrated-afraid-to-join-a-real-conference Doofuses.
Well said!
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#3048912 - 11/25/12 09:39 PM
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How can you say the sec as a whole is not great? Granted we have some teams that were not up to par this year, but the sec is better then any other conference. I mean you can not denie that. Acc found that out this weekend. Pac 12 only has 2 good teams big 10 is an absolute joke and the big 12 is just ok i guess nothing special.
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#3048951 - 11/25/12 10:37 PM
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Who are the non-SEC people gonna hate on when the four team "playoff" starts after next year? The SEC will continue to be strong in it's first four or five spots, unlike any other conference. Until the other conferences step it up some, it isn't going to change.
Stepping it up has nothing to do with it. If you are not in the SEC, you are always out once you lose a game.
The SEC should just open the wallets and let them all in.
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#3048952 - 11/25/12 10:41 PM
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How can you say the sec as a whole is not great? Granted we have some teams that were not up to par this year, but the sec is better then any other conference. I mean you can not denie that. Acc found that out this weekend. Pac 12 only has 2 good teams big 10 is an absolute joke and the big 12 is just ok i guess nothing special.
Those teams are hardly ever up to par. The SEC as a WHOLE is no better than others.
IF they were that great, then they would not ever have a tough game outside their conference.
They have 4-5 teams at the top and rest are just wannabe's no better than other conferences.
Only 2-3 that stay at the top.
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#3048961 - 11/25/12 10:53 PM
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Wow. The whining is getting pretty bad. The SEC has won over half of the BCS titles. Yep, everyone is as good as the SEC.
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#3048970 - 11/25/12 11:06 PM
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Wow. The whining is getting pretty bad. The SEC has won over half of the BCS titles. Yep, everyone is as good as the SEC.
What he said^^^
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#3048984 - 11/25/12 11:46 PM
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^^^ haha as they say haters gunna hate they can keep hating on the sec best conference period!!!!
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#3049019 - 11/26/12 01:27 AM
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Wow. The whining is getting pretty bad. The SEC has won over half of the BCS titles. Yep, everyone is as good as the SEC. What he said^^^
Not to mention that in most normal years, Arkansas, UT, and Auburn could have three more of those top ten spots.
Anyone remember all those years in the 70s, 80s, and 90s (until the BCS started in 98) that any team that wasn't north of the Mason-Dixon Line or in California was at a disadvantage in the polls the AP and UPI writers voted on? Even when they were terrible, Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, OH State, most California teams, and a few others would be ranked MUCH higher than they deserved to be...that is if they deserved to be ranked at all.
The SEC and other conferences toughed it out, and although they were intentionally ignored by the voters, we didn't whine all the time about it. Me and many of my friends used to say if there were a ranking system that was more fair, the SEC would win half the national titles. I reckon we were right. 
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#3049041 - 11/26/12 04:12 AM
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we can't beat ya, so we gonna hate ya. SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC
During those six eventual SEC winners in the BCS National Championship Game the SEC have outscored National Championship Game opponents 184-92. That's good on good! lets hear the spin on this
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#3049045 - 11/26/12 04:27 AM
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How can you say the sec as a whole is not great? Granted we have some teams that were not up to par this year, but the sec is better then any other conference. I mean you can not denie that. Acc found that out this weekend. Pac 12 only has 2 good teams big 10 is an absolute joke and the big 12 is just ok i guess nothing special. Those teams are hardly ever up to par. The SEC as a WHOLE is no better than others. IF they were that great, then they would not ever have a tough game outside their conference. They have 4-5 teams at the top and rest are just wannabe's no better than other conferences. Only 2-3 that stay at the top.
The thing is every sec team can't win. Look at it as though each sec team never played another sec team , say each played 2-3 teams out of every other bcs conference. How would that work out?? Past years have proven during bowl season the dominance of the sec. Of course they wouldn't win them all but the teams at the top of the sec would still be undefeated and 1 loss teams whereas the.bottom feeders would also have much better records than what they do. This past weekend was a prime example with usce beating clemson,Fla beating fsu , as well as other games throughout the season.
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#3049049 - 11/26/12 04:41 AM
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The SEC has the highest win percentage in BCS games. Again, that's good on good.
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#3049051 - 11/26/12 04:49 AM
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The SEC has won over half of the BCS titles. Yep, everyone is as good as the SEC. 
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#3049152 - 11/26/12 06:57 AM
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I would love to see Georgia roll the tide and then play the Irish.
For uga to pull the upset, they will have to do something they have not done all season long: play well against a top ten team that plays great defense. Alabama, on the other hand, merely has to do what it has done EVERY week (even against TAM, they had one bad quarter, not necessarily a bad game). That's an advantage in their favor. UGA will have to do something it has NOT YET done, or ever done with Richt.
should be a good game though
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#3049218 - 11/26/12 07:54 AM
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I wish ND and Ala-damma would go to a sextuple Overtime and finish in a 0-0 tie, after each comitting 12 turnovers apiece.
Hate 'em both, and Florida too.
With that being said, I hope UGA beats 'Damma and then the Golden overrated-afraid-to-join-a-real-conference Doofuses.
Although I'm not a ND fan in the least I can surely appreciate their independant nature. Independance is lost in our country today. Bama or UGA will more than likely beat them handily but lets not beat them up for standing up to the machine!!
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#3049241 - 11/26/12 08:13 AM
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If K St or Oregon win their games, this discussion isn't happening.
Personally I think ND can hang with either one of them. That defense is pretty stout.
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#3049257 - 11/26/12 08:22 AM
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It's easy for ND to be independent when NBC pays them millions. No need to join a conference.
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#3049259 - 11/26/12 08:23 AM
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murray 12-24 3ints, 1-10 on 3rd downs. i think florida had 6 turnovers in the 17-9 georgia win. im the first person to say a win is a win. but georgia didnt play well
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#3049271 - 11/26/12 08:30 AM
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Haters are out in force I see. The SEC is the STRONGEST and TOUGHEST conference. Past years straight should say tell you something. As for ND, well the best team/defense they have faced was Stanford (which was robbed on bad call). Bama has a bigger and faster defense than Stanford does. So if Bama meets ND I think that it will be proven AGAIN that the SEC is the best adding another NC to it resume. I have noticed that along with HATERS come the BANDWAGON..so HATERS ALL ABOARD!!!!
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#3049404 - 11/26/12 09:51 AM
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Jimbo Fisher was unhappy that # 10 Florida State wasn't getting any respect in the BCS standings. Jimbo had his chance to prove his point and win his case. However, he lost to #4 Florida.
# 11 Clemson was poised to climb up the BSC rankings but stumbled against 2 loss # 12 South Carolina.
The only losses the top 10 BCS SEC teams have are to each other. They are not getting beat by out of conference teams.
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#3049480 - 11/26/12 10:50 AM
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Rutman, who is left out with one loss? Nobody now, but there was a time. My point is teams with 2 losses get in the top 10 and stay there just because they are SEC. The SEC does have some great teams, but the SEC as a whole is not great. When you stack them in the top 10 in AP poll and then in BCS poll and leave them there with 2 losses or less, then the SEC will always have the best shot at a NC. The SEC will not let everyone in and college football should be about more than just one conference. Just my take on it, but SEC lovers see things a little differently. GO IRISH !!!! BTW, I'm NOT a ND fan,lol.
The AP has no bearing on the BCS poll...the coaches does. Both the Coaches poll and BCS voters come from all over the country(other conferences). If a high percentage of non SEC voters thought a 2 loss team in any other conference was better than an SEC 2 loss team, they would vote them that way. OK, Nebraska, FL State Clemson and Oregon ain't that far out of the Top 10.
The computers also 5 teams in the top 10...they do not have the ability to be bias.
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#3049535 - 11/26/12 11:25 AM
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I'm not a Bama fan...Can't stand them, but I like Notre Dame MUCH LESS than Bama...Not a hater as I don't hate anything except warm deer hunting weather...BUT I would gladly wear a Bama shirt while watching them destroy Notre Dame in a national title game.
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#3051500 - 11/27/12 12:23 PM
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I don't hate the SEC, but I do hate the bias that is there. IF all conferences and teams were treated the same, then the SEC would not have the domination they do.
Every other conference has to win all their games or not lose more than one.
SEC can lose 2 and still be in top 10 BCS.
Yes, they lost to each other, but look at all the games against non sec teams that they barely won.
Being in the SEC gives them a bonus from the start before any games are played and stays that way.
Any team that goes undefeated and is not in the SEC is thought to be non deserving.
Make things equal across the board, line them up and let them play.
The way things are now and the schedules (remember most SEC teams are mediocre), it almost ensures one SEC team in NC game.
According y'all, an SEC team should stomp any team outside their conference. Haven't seen it yet.
What team has the most NC's,,,,,,,,,,,,Alabama (SEC).
What teams has the most NCAA violations and punishment,,,,,,Alabama (SEC).
Y'all have fun cause I sure am. Love the part about on any given year, TN, Ark. , etc would be in the top 10 too. 
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#3051512 - 11/27/12 12:31 PM
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Cry Cry Cry we can't beat ya, so we gonna hate ya. SEC SEC SEC SEC SEC During those six eventual SEC winners in the BCS National Championship Game the SEC have outscored National Championship Game opponents 184-92. That's good on good! lets hear the spin on this
Lot easier when you have things stacked to keep you at the top. I don't have a problem with the outcomes of those games, but do with the system that gives the SEC an advantage in being in it.
Just for the record, didn't like the bias for northern teams years back either.
That was wrong and the BCS is just as wrong.
Those who do not like the SEC are not whining/crying anymore than the SEC people were before the BCS.
Just stating facts and opinions.
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#3051519 - 11/27/12 12:34 PM
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Love the SEC. I would love to see Gators vs Bama. Won't happen but I would love that game.
I'm a Gators fan and my brother in law is a Bama fan.
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#3051526 - 11/27/12 12:37 PM
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...nah you're just stating opinions. There are many other teams
more penalized than Alabama.
Any team that goes undefeated and is not in the SEC is thought to be non deserving.
Who is #1 again?
you're just an SEC hater. I understand it though. I hate the way OH State, USC, ND, and a few other teams are always overhyped preseason.
Other teams can change what you call a bias by beating the SEC. Bowl records speak for themselves.
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#3051543 - 11/27/12 12:43 PM
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Other conferences need to beat SEC teams in the BCS title game and more consistantly in the Sugar Bowl to get the benefit of the doubt. Most recent title games have been blowouts or at least the outcome pretty well determined by the fourth quarter. These other conferences and their fans are demanding respect when they haven't earned it. Once the perceived bias doesn't work out (SEC losing a couple of BCS title games), the nod will go to someone else.
I haven't seen two teams from one other conference that could finish one and two in the SEC in years. I can say that occurs just about every year of the two top SEC schools. Just stating facts and opinions.
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#3051565 - 11/27/12 12:52 PM
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It's easy for ND to be independent when NBC pays them millions. No need to join a conference.
Tell me a team that wouldn't take that gig. It's all about winning, recruiting and winning these days. There's not an SEC school that wouldn't do it if offered.
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#3051617 - 11/27/12 01:11 PM
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The SEC has the highest win percentage in BCS games. Again, that's good on good.
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#3051627 - 11/27/12 01:15 PM
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It's easy for ND to be independent when NBC pays them millions. No need to join a conference. Tell me a team that wouldn't take that gig. It's all about winning, recruiting and winning these days. There's not an SEC school that wouldn't do it if offered.
Again! They have had the kahonas to stand up to the machine(Big10,Big12,PAC12 etc) and showed it is possible to remain independent!
I have never pulled for them in sports but I respect them for standing alone.
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#3051631 - 11/27/12 01:17 PM
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Other conferences need to beat SEC teams in the BCS title game and more consistantly in the Sugar Bowl to get the benefit of the doubt. Most recent title games have been blowouts or at least the outcome pretty well determined by the fourth quarter. These other conferences and their fans are demanding respect when they haven't earned it. Once the perceived bias doesn't work out (SEC losing a couple of BCS title games), the nod will go to someone else.
I haven't seen two teams from one other conference that could finish one and two in the SEC in years. I can say that occurs just about every year of the two top SEC schools. Just stating facts and opinions.
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Somebody beat them on a regular basis and this "bias" will shift.
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#3051637 - 11/27/12 01:20 PM
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The SEC has been the best forever. The BCS is still wrong though. The new format they develop will help the SEC even more. Before the streak started the SEC was still the best, just not given the chance because they would lose one or two each ear because you have to play up every week. It is easy for the others to be undefeated because they do not have to play up every week. Nothing will ever change my mind on this. (Unless I had a son play for ND or something haha.)
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#3051638 - 11/27/12 01:20 PM
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Next year will tell the tale. Four team playoff. Too bad it wasn't this year. Just think how mad some people would be with 3 of the final 4 teams being from the SEC. Now that would have been something to see.
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#3051640 - 11/27/12 01:22 PM
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The way I see it-a 4 team playoff is possibly going to screw a couple of SEC teams every year.
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#3051645 - 11/27/12 01:23 PM
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What teams has the most NCAA violations and punishment,,,,,,Alabama (SEC).
I believe that is actually SMU. Currently, USC and Miami Hurricanes are on the NCAA watch-list. Whether Saban's recruiting is ethical or not remains to be seen.
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#3051663 - 11/27/12 01:32 PM
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SEC is the top. Bama and ND in the NC. Bama will win it. ND IMO hasn't played the competition that Bama has. GA is over-rated, Florida should have beat them, heck we had 2 chances to tie them.
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#3051701 - 11/27/12 01:49 PM
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Notre Dame doesn't have to have a set to stay independent, just money. They may have shot themselves in the foot this year by affiliating with the ACC. They're gonna play four or five games annually with the ACC. Given the recent history of ACC football, there are few teams in the ACC that can help strength of schedule rankings. Might not be exactly what they were thinking of when they signed that deal.
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#3051715 - 11/27/12 01:58 PM
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What teams has the most NCAA violations and punishment,,,,,,Alabama (SEC).
I believe that is actually SMU. Currently, USC and Miami Hurricanes are on the NCAA watch-list. Whether Saban's recruiting is ethical or not remains to be seen.
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#3051725 - 11/27/12 02:03 PM
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Next year will tell the tale. Four team playoff. Too bad it wasn't this year. Just think how mad some people would be with 3 of the final 4 teams being from the SEC. Now that would have been something to see.
It would have been awesome for SEC recruiting. It can happen just as easily next year.
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#3051727 - 11/27/12 02:05 PM
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It's easy for ND to be independent when NBC pays them millions. No need to join a conference. Tell me a team that wouldn't take that gig. It's all about winning, recruiting and winning these days. There's not an SEC school that wouldn't do it if offered. Again! They have had the kahonas to stand up to the machine(Big10,Big12,PAC12 etc) and showed it is possible to remain independent! I have never pulled for them in sports but I respect them for standing alone.
I say they join a conference by the time we begin the Playoff system. They have a sweet deal right now, but I do think they took notice this year when Oregon jumped them despite a win. They could have easily been left our if OR and K State didn't lose. Even if only one of them lost and Alabama beat the crap out of the SEC East champion the SEC team was projected to jump ND. Notre Dame will need a conference championship game to have any shot of playing in the NC game come playoff time.
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#3054101 - 11/28/12 08:36 PM
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6 in a row cya!
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