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#3037348 - 11/17/12 07:34 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Crappie Luck]
sawman
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
I see a newly restructured Hostess company opening factories and job opportunities in a right to work state in the very near future
I'm with crappie on this one. Theres a hostess plant in M
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#3037352 - 11/17/12 07:36 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: sawman]
sawman
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Sorry about that. Thers a Hostess plant in Memphis. If we see it open back up in the future we may have the answer to this
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#3039602 - 11/18/12 09:27 PM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: sawman]
Dale3
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Dont worry China going to pick up the slack, they just now will be known as Wing Wong's and have a little lead taste to them

Edited by Dale3 (11/18/12 09:29 PM)

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#3039688 - 11/18/12 10:55 PM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Crappie Luck]
Locksley
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
I see a newly restructured Hostess company opening factories and job opportunities in a right to work state in the very near future


I see the brand being sold to a Mexican company so they can make money with the cheap labor they have and the USA will buy the stuff just like we buy Green Giant canned goods and KING LEO candy from Mexico now.
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#3039689 - 11/18/12 10:55 PM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Dale3]
Locksley
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 Originally Posted By: Dale3
Dont worry China going to pick up the slack, they just now will be known as Wing Wong's and have a little lead taste to them
LOL
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#3041799 - 11/20/12 09:23 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Locksley]
Spikes Tactical
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 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Dale3
Dont worry China going to pick up the slack, they just now will be known as Wing Wong's and have a little lead taste to them
LOL


funny one
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#3043324 - 11/21/12 08:39 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Crappie Luck]
Kirk
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The parent company of Hostess is Interstate Brands. They are no stranger to bankruptcy and restructuring. They filed for bankruptcy in 2005 and came out of Chapter 11 in 2009. They have been battling the union for years. They claim they owe creditors over one billion in debt. With only a fraction of this debt being owed to actual suppliers.

The Bakery & Confectionary Union & Industry International Pension Fund has the largest claim, of $994 million.
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#3043355 - 11/21/12 08:59 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Kirk]
ncslickslayer
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Please read this in its entirety before responding. It obviously has an anti-Repub slant, but with the details included, after reading, is anyone still willing to lay total blame on the Union ?


http://www.politicususa.com/romney-vulture-capitalist-style-management-killed-hostess-unions.html


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#3043385 - 11/21/12 09:20 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: ncslickslayer]
Wildcat
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 Originally Posted By: ncslickslayer
Please read this in its entirety before responding. It obviously has an anti-Repub slant, but with the details included, after reading, is anyone still willing to lay total blame on the Union ?


http://www.politicususa.com/romney-vulture-capitalist-style-management-killed-hostess-unions.html


Two sides to every coin.


LOL:!!!!

Talk about spin. That article is way out there.

They are tying Mitt Romney, the Republicans and Bain Capital to the Twinkies. LOL!!!!

Think about it with YOUR OWN MIND. They are trying to tie Romney, Republicans and Bain Capital to it so just how many so called "details" those same authors wrote would you beleive?????

Ever the Teamsters Union sided with the Company and they tried to tell the Bakers union to back off and not strike.

LOL!! When one UNION tells another UNION not to strike against a company then you all KNOW THE TRUTH. LOL!!!
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#3043410 - 11/21/12 09:36 AM Re: good bye Twinkie. thanks unions [Re: Wildcat]
ncslickslayer
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As I said, its obviously slanted. I'm not talking Romney, Bain, or any of that. Im simply asking do you think the Union is solely to blame ? Do you not believe either

Hostess’s failure was compounded by having six CEO’s in 8 years who had no experience in the bread or cake baking industry, and despite their financial woes, the company’s CEO got a 300% salary increase from $750,000 to $2,250,000, and other top executives received raises worth hundreds-of-thousands of dollars

or

Hostess workers previously made numerous concessions to keep the company afloat, but they were not enough for the company’s management so they stopped making contractually-obligated contributions to employee’s pensions to save money. The employees stayed on the job until management offered a new contract cutting wages and benefits an extra 27 – 32 percent that prompted employees to strike and thus become scapegoats for Hostess’s demise.

I guess my only point is it's not just as simple as "The Union caused it!!!!!!!"

Just my opinion, everyone has their own.

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