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#3031780 - 11/13/12 05:58 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: southernhunter
Do the deer eat them ?


Good question. I don't know. The berries sure smell good.


squirrels will heavily eat them in a low mast year, have never seen deer eat them, migrating black birds or starlings will usually wipe out most of them
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#3031817 - 11/13/12 06:13 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: Chaneylake]
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 Originally Posted By: Chaneylake
migrating black birds or starlings will usually wipe out most of them

I bet that's the truth! Dang I hate those big noisy flocks of starlings!
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#3031864 - 11/13/12 06:33 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: BSK]
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I have seen turkey eating them and even roosting in them and eating them while roosted but havent witnessed deer use.
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#3032074 - 11/13/12 08:08 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: smstone22]
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Very interesting smstone22. I'll remember that.

Now that I know they are native to the entire eastern U.S., I'll be looking for them. Funny that I've never seen a balck gum tree before. Must not be common on rocky ridges.
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#3032091 - 11/13/12 08:17 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: BSK]
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Im sure its different in different areas but all of mine are just under the crest of a ridge at about 1900 feet elevation. They are in a sandy soil layer that has aquatic fossils in it. They are also in patches, and can be easily picked out in aerial images taken in the Fall because the leaves tend to be more reddish.
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#3032137 - 11/13/12 08:39 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: smstone22]
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Black gum fruit are a favorite of fox squirrels. In the early fall if you find a tree dropping fruit there will usually be fox squirrels nearby. Black gum tree leaves are one of the first to start changing color in the fall. I have seen their leaves starting to turn red as early as late-August.
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#3032192 - 11/13/12 09:03 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: smstone22]
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 Originally Posted By: smstone22
Im sure its different in different areas but all of mine are just under the crest of a ridge at about 1900 feet elevation. They are in a sandy soil layer that has aquatic fossils in it. They are also in patches, and can be easily picked out in aerial images taken in the Fall because the leaves tend to be more reddish.


Truly fascinating. I wonder what it is about that soil layer?
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#3032194 - 11/13/12 09:04 PM Re: Tree identification help [Re: Rick Dillard]
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 Originally Posted By: Rick Dillard
Black gum fruit are a favorite of fox squirrels. In the early fall if you find a tree dropping fruit there will usually be fox squirrels nearby.


Very interesting.


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Black gum tree leaves are one of the first to start changing color in the fall. I have seen their leaves starting to turn red as early as late-August.


I'm going to try and remember to look for that next year.
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#3034119 - 11/15/12 08:48 AM Re: Tree identification help [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Funny that I've never seen a balck gum tree before. Must not be common on rocky ridges.


My place in Perry Co is full of them.

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#3043176 - 11/21/12 06:58 AM Re: Tree identification help [Re: Bayou Buck]
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More info on the black gum tree.

http://www.qdma.com/articles/know-your-deer-plants-blackgum
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