What kind of rifle and bullet are you using that no deer has ever taken a step? I've shot them with a 460 Weatherby Magnum and a 300 grain Barnes bullet that mushrooms to nearly an inch when fired at 2,800fps and had them run the usual 40 to 50 yards!? Yeah, a few drop instantly, but most run 40 to 50 yards.....

150 grain ballistic tips 170 grain remingtons 30.06 7mm Mag.....160 grain winchester 30-30 Mossberg....its not what i shoot its where i shoot....right dead in the shoulder blade drops them everytime

I hear a lot about the front sholder blade on a deer being a drop him dead shot. When you dress out a deer how big is the front sholder blade on an adult deer on average.
Also I quess I am not a real good shot because a lot of my deer run a little piece after being shot, some hit in the lung and heart (exploded) still run fifty yards or futher.
Do others have this problem.

keep hunting with the ballistic tip and u will loose one.

No way. Never had one run on me yet. My nephew uses them and his never run. My brother quit using them because they do TO MUCH DAMAGE. Best made if you ask me if you dont like to track them. 30-06 150 grain. brother use to shoot them out of his 7mag

No sicker feeling than losing one. I lost the first deer I ever shot with a bow and as best I can recall I've not lost another one and that was about 20 years ago. My son (he's 9) shot a doe with my muzzleloader last Saturday and we walked to where she was and nothing. I walked to the edge of the woods and saw her laying there 15 yards away but my son said "dad here's blood I hit her" so I told him to follow it. He found 3 more spots before seeing her and I said I already did. He looked at me as if thinking why didn't I tell him and I told the reason I didn't was because he has to learn how to follow the blood trail if they don't fall right there. All that to say take your time and don't hurry. A lot of deer could probably be found if people would take their time and really look. IMO we owe the deer that much.

I hear a lot about the front sholder blade on a deer being a drop him dead shot. When you dress out a deer how big is the front sholder blade on an adult deer on average.
Also I quess I am not a real good shot because a lot of my deer run a little piece after being shot, some hit in the lung and heart (exploded) still run fifty yards or futher.
Do others have this problem.

Really tired of seeing threads about lost deer....people should use better judgement when shooting and deciding when to track after the shot....in my 10 years of hunting i've lost 2 deer both shot with the bow and both pushed by me and my impatience....with rifle a deer has never taken a step when shot.....ive learned from those 2 i lost one i tracked a half mile literally on hands and knees in the last stretch.....i later seen that deer with a flesh wound on the elbow.....the purpose of thread: is to remind hunters to remember a part of the "Bowhunter's Creed..."to search long and diligently to track down and recover any wounded game.

keep hunting with the ballistic tip and u will loose one.

keep hunting with the ballistic tip and u will loose one.

if the deer runs after being shot with ballistic tip you most likely wont have a blood trail to follow. if the round shatters on bone at impact, the animal will probably die but it will run and very hard to blood trail with no blood.
went to texas in 99 and the guy told me to stop using them for this reason. took me till 2008 to learn the hard way.