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#3038314 - 11/17/12 10:13 PM Culler 9 point
Tomahawk
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This one needed to go and I was glad to do it. He was never going to get any real tine height and as you can tell one side is wide the other more classic "U" shape. I'm a bow hunter but I killed this deer with muzzle loader at 25 yds. I'll post better pics tomorrow in the light.
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#3038330 - 11/17/12 10:24 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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Congrats! Cull buck? No, looks like a trophy to me. He has lots of character. But that's just me
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#3038351 - 11/17/12 10:44 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: catman529]
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I'm a bow hunter but I killed it with a muzzle loader? We are what we use I am afraid. Agree with Catman, it's a good deer no matter. Congrats.
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#3038361 - 11/17/12 11:05 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: soshock1]
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Congrats
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#3038381 - 11/17/12 11:48 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: easy45]
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So I guess today you were a muzzleloader hunter. A lot of people bow hunt and also kill deer with guns at times. You don't have to excuse yourself for using a MZ . . . they're fun to shoot deer with. And you call him a "cull" if you want to, but I'd call it a dam fine deer. Congrats
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#3038410 - 11/18/12 03:58 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Southern Sportsman]
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congrats
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#3038413 - 11/18/12 04:08 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: northeasthunter]
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Lol cull buck? Bow hunter?

How bout nice deer and hunter? Works you watch to much TV
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#3038442 - 11/18/12 05:37 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: ImThere]
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 Originally Posted By: ImThere
Lol cull buck? Bow hunter?

How bout nice deer and hunter? Works you watch to much TV
What he said, Unless your hunting a high fence, there is no such thing as a cull, if you think this is a cull buk, there are many more out there like him, so you have your work cut out for you. Either way nice deer, with or without killing it with a muzzleloader. Slow down on the Tv deer hunts, they are for show most of the time, and a big Ars commercial for selling tons of crap that don't even work. Glad you killed this good deer..

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#3038455 - 11/18/12 06:04 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: yamaha200]
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Nice deer yes... Cull buck nooooo
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#3038463 - 11/18/12 06:20 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: JSPAL270]
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Nice!
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#3038481 - 11/18/12 06:36 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: preachermantom]
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Congrats.
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#3038496 - 11/18/12 06:42 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Phil1979]
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I guess i havea couple of cull bucks hanging on my wall according to your standards.
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#3038513 - 11/18/12 06:57 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Nhill]
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Cull buck...yes. Bow hunter...yes. Was not allowed to use bow during gun only in Illinois. On my farm here in Illinois this is definitely a cull. If I was allowed to use my bow then that's what I would have used. The gun only tag allows for an extra buck to be taken, this is the reason i bought the gun only tag. This is not a big deer for here but I had no questions I was going to take him when he came out.

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#3038540 - 11/18/12 07:18 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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I only dream of the day when the very best on my farm can match this buck. \:\)

But I know what you mean about him being a cull. He doesn't have the classic main beams and his tines are too short.

Still, the day I can see something with that much antler on my farm, I'll be jumping for joy. Hopefully it's not too many years away.

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#3038581 - 11/18/12 07:51 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: easy45]
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Congrats
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#3038602 - 11/18/12 08:05 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: mountain man 71]
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did u happen to pull the jawbone?
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#3038614 - 11/18/12 08:19 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: nate17]
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1,000's of hunter would be glad to CULL that buck for you.I prefer shooting and hunting with my M.L..I'm a Hunter by choice and was happy to get the Big gun out yesterday.
Congradulations on a excellent buck.Glad you are very pleased with him.
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#3038664 - 11/18/12 09:00 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: preachermantom]
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Very nice,congrats!!
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#3038677 - 11/18/12 09:07 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: nate17]
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 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.

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#3038752 - 11/18/12 10:17 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: ImThere]
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 Originally Posted By: ImThere
Lol cull buck? Bow hunter?

How bout nice deer and hunter? Works you watch to much TV
LOL... I don't really watch hunting shows. I'm fortunate enough to hunt good land in both TN and IL. I'm not being conceded but I know what I have on my farms and therefore target larger bucks for the most part but enjoy the cull kills as much. I only used a muzzle loader because I had no choice, gun only no bow allowed. I don't mind because it allows me to kill an extra buck. TV shows...yeah right, more like great land and good skills.
To all the others who gave me congrats and left the jealous remarks out of your comments... Thanks, it's greatly appreciated.

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#3038808 - 11/18/12 11:15 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: preachermantom]
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congrats
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#3038838 - 11/18/12 11:48 AM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]
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Congrats!
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#3038853 - 11/18/12 12:05 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
ImThere
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: ImThere
Lol cull buck? Bow hunter?

How bout nice deer and hunter? Works you watch to much TV
LOL... I don't really watch hunting shows. I'm fortunate enough to hunt good land in both TN and IL. I'm not being conceded but I know what I have on my farms and therefore target larger bucks for the most part but enjoy the cull kills as much. I only used a muzzle loader because I had no choice, gun only no bow allowed. I don't mind because it allows me to kill an extra buck. TV shows...yeah right, more like great land and good skills.
To all the others who gave me congrats and left the jealous remarks out of your comments... Thanks, it's greatly appreciated.

Congrats to ya but jealous sorry but no
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#3038872 - 11/18/12 12:15 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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Nice deer, got any better pics yet?
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#3038879 - 11/18/12 12:24 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Master Chief]
Tomahawk
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
Nice deer, got any better pics yet?
yes here's one I posted in 2012 kill thread post.
[img]http://[/img]

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#3038882 - 11/18/12 12:27 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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Congrats nice buck!
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#3038892 - 11/18/12 12:31 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
Nice deer, got any better pics yet?
yes here's one I posted in 2012 kill thread post.
[img]http://[/img]


Holy crap, that deer is atleast 36" wide!
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#3038932 - 11/18/12 01:18 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


Seems pretty stupid to cull a possible 2.5yo considering you don't what they'll do for a few more years.

I don't know why some people think they need to justify every deer they shoot with some type of "management" rational. Just seems ungrateful.

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#3038975 - 11/18/12 01:44 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: preachermantom]
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Congrats!
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#3039000 - 11/18/12 01:58 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


If this deer is truly 2.5, then you killed a very high end 2.5 yr old for any area and this goes to show what a detriment the term "cull" has become.

If your happy with the kill, (which it looks like you are by the pics you're posting of it)then just leave it at that without trying to justify anything. I would still like to see the jawbone.

BTW, Congrats on a very nice deer.

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#3039039 - 11/18/12 02:27 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: nate17]
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 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


If this deer is truly 2.5, then you killed a very high end 2.5 yr old for any area and this goes to show what a detriment the term "cull" has become.

If your happy with the kill, (which it looks like you are by the pics you're posting of it)then just leave it at that without trying to justify anything. I would still like to see the jawbone.

BTW, Congrats on a very nice deer.
Thanks for the congrats. I know my properties and know what this deer potential was going to be. Sure he would have gained more but not as much as one would think. I have numerous other bucks in the area that have similar genetics and they just never explode in to upper end antler size. Their tines stay short, this particular buck had a mix between his right and left side. I have other younger bucks that I would love to get that I have let pass because I know what they will become. Funny to hear folks tell me what I should or should not cull, they've never set foot on my property and don't have a clue what is running around here. "Cull" does not take away from a kill, it's just a way of saying "I don't want these genetics to become the primary genetics on my property". I never said this wasn't a good deer, just something I didn't mind taking out earlier than normal. Culling is not an excuse to shoot a deer but a way of practicing deer management. You may do things differently on your property...more power to you.

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#3039044 - 11/18/12 02:31 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Master Chief]
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 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
Nice deer, got any better pics yet?
yes here's one I posted in 2012 kill thread post.
[img]http://[/img]


Holy crap, that deer is atleast 36" wide!
Lol. No chief it's just the camera angle, it just looks wider than it is. I'll take numbers later and post them if interested.

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#3039056 - 11/18/12 02:38 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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nice buck !!
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#3039068 - 11/18/12 02:45 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: Master Chief
Nice deer, got any better pics yet?
yes here's one I posted in 2012 kill thread post.
[img]http://[/img]


Holy crap, that deer is atleast 36" wide!
Lol. No chief it's just the camera angle, it just looks wider than it is. I'll take numbers later and post them if interested.


lol, I know I was just messin with you.

Post the numbers if you want to, doesn't matter to me.
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#3039091 - 11/18/12 03:14 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


If this deer is truly 2.5, then you killed a very high end 2.5 yr old for any area and this goes to show what a detriment the term "cull" has become.

If your happy with the kill, (which it looks like you are by the pics you're posting of it)then just leave it at that without trying to justify anything. I would still like to see the jawbone.

BTW, Congrats on a very nice deer.
Thanks for the congrats. I know my properties and know what this deer potential was going to be. Sure he would have gained more but not as much as one would think. I have numerous other bucks in the area that have similar genetics and they just never explode in to upper end antler size. Their tines stay short, this particular buck had a mix between his right and left side. I have other younger bucks that I would love to get that I have let pass because I know what they will become. Funny to hear folks tell me what I should or should not cull, they've never set foot on my property and don't have a clue what is running around here. "Cull" does not take away from a kill, it's just a way of saying "I don't want these genetics to become the primary genetics on my property". I never said this wasn't a good deer, just something I didn't mind taking out earlier than normal. Culling is not an excuse to shoot a deer but a way of practicing deer management. You may do things differently on your property...more power to you.


A biologist does not have to step foot on anyones property to know what your dealing with when you hear the terms "2.5" and "cull" about a harvested animal


Edited by nate17 (11/18/12 03:16 PM)

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#3039113 - 11/18/12 03:34 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


If this deer is truly 2.5, then you killed a very high end 2.5 yr old for any area and this goes to show what a detriment the term "cull" has become.

If your happy with the kill, (which it looks like you are by the pics you're posting of it)then just leave it at that without trying to justify anything. I would still like to see the jawbone.

BTW, Congrats on a very nice deer.
Thanks for the congrats. I know my properties and know what this deer potential was going to be. Sure he would have gained more but not as much as one would think. I have numerous other bucks in the area that have similar genetics and they just never explode in to upper end antler size. Their tines stay short, this particular buck had a mix between his right and left side. I have other younger bucks that I would love to get that I have let pass because I know what they will become. Funny to hear folks tell me what I should or should not cull, they've never set foot on my property and don't have a clue what is running around here. "Cull" does not take away from a kill, it's just a way of saying "I don't want these genetics to become the primary genetics on my property". I never said this wasn't a good deer, just something I didn't mind taking out earlier than normal. Culling is not an excuse to shoot a deer but a way of practicing deer management. You may do things differently on your property...more power to you.


"culling" does not work in the wild.
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#3039138 - 11/18/12 04:01 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: nate17]
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 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


If this deer is truly 2.5, then you killed a very high end 2.5 yr old for any area and this goes to show what a detriment the term "cull" has become.

If your happy with the kill, (which it looks like you are by the pics you're posting of it)then just leave it at that without trying to justify anything. I would still like to see the jawbone.

BTW, Congrats on a very nice deer.
Thanks for the congrats. I know my properties and know what this deer potential was going to be. Sure he would have gained more but not as much as one would think. I have numerous other bucks in the area that have similar genetics and they just never explode in to upper end antler size. Their tines stay short, this particular buck had a mix between his right and left side. I have other younger bucks that I would love to get that I have let pass because I know what they will become. Funny to hear folks tell me what I should or should not cull, they've never set foot on my property and don't have a clue what is running around here. "Cull" does not take away from a kill, it's just a way of saying "I don't want these genetics to become the primary genetics on my property". I never said this wasn't a good deer, just something I didn't mind taking out earlier than normal. Culling is not an excuse to shoot a deer but a way of practicing deer management. You may do things differently on your property...more power to you.


A biologist does not have to step foot on anyones property to know what your dealing with when you hear the terms "2.5" and "cull" about a harvested animal
If this buck is 2.5. The only reason I believe he could be is based on his physical body size in comparison to other deer in the area but the guys where I took it to be processed seems to think its 3.5 minimum but haven't examined him thoroughly yet. It really doesn't matter either way at this point because I can't bring him back alive. I've got so many good bucks around it really doesn't matter if I killed him, a neighbor, or a car. Plenty more good ones to choose from, I attribute this to good management practices. You believe one thing, I believe another.
I commend you on your work as a biologist but that doesn't mean your always right. Quite a bit of info gathered on wildlife behavior and potential genetic outcomes are based on studies that aren't proven facts. I always take what a biologist says with a grain of salt and never hold it to be fact, sorry if this offends, not my intent.

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#3039161 - 11/18/12 04:29 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
 Originally Posted By: nate17
did u happen to pull the jawbone?
not yet but will. This is a younger buck 3.5 at best but more than likely a 2.5.


If this deer is truly 2.5, then you killed a very high end 2.5 yr old for any area and this goes to show what a detriment the term "cull" has become.

If your happy with the kill, (which it looks like you are by the pics you're posting of it)then just leave it at that without trying to justify anything. I would still like to see the jawbone.

BTW, Congrats on a very nice deer.
Thanks for the congrats. I know my properties and know what this deer potential was going to be. Sure he would have gained more but not as much as one would think. I have numerous other bucks in the area that have similar genetics and they just never explode in to upper end antler size. Their tines stay short, this particular buck had a mix between his right and left side. I have other younger bucks that I would love to get that I have let pass because I know what they will become. Funny to hear folks tell me what I should or should not cull, they've never set foot on my property and don't have a clue what is running around here. "Cull" does not take away from a kill, it's just a way of saying "I don't want these genetics to become the primary genetics on my property". I never said this wasn't a good deer, just something I didn't mind taking out earlier than normal. Culling is not an excuse to shoot a deer but a way of practicing deer management. You may do things differently on your property...more power to you.


A biologist does not have to step foot on anyones property to know what your dealing with when you hear the terms "2.5" and "cull" about a harvested animal
If this buck is 2.5. The only reason I believe he could be is based on his physical body size in comparison to other deer in the area but the guys where I took it to be processed seems to think its 3.5 minimum but haven't examined him thoroughly yet. It really doesn't matter either way at this point because I can't bring him back alive. I've got so many good bucks around it really doesn't matter if I killed him, a neighbor, or a car. Plenty more good ones to choose from, I attribute this to good management practices. You believe one thing, I believe another.
I commend you on your work as a biologist but that doesn't mean your always right. Quite a bit of info gathered on wildlife behavior and potential genetic outcomes are based on studies that aren't proven facts. I always take what a biologist says with a grain of salt and never hold it to be fact, sorry if this offends, not my intent.


It doesnt offend me in the least that you have an opinion or that you killed the deer. I think its a solid deer that would make many people happy.

The difference between your opinion and what is a fact is predicting that a 2.5 yr old deer will be a cull at maturity is nothing more than a guessing game for both of us.

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#3039219 - 11/18/12 05:54 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: nate17]
Good time Charlie
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Does not suprise me,some of you do not know this guy.
All I am going to say.
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#3040586 - 11/19/12 02:04 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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Congrats!
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#3040622 - 11/19/12 02:29 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: JeepKuntry]
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Nice deer man headed up to Illinois in about a week and a half. And to the people saying crap about his cull buck lay off he obviously knows what he doing.
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#3040627 - 11/19/12 02:34 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
Cull buck...yes. Bow hunter...yes. Was not allowed to use bow during gun only in Illinois. On my farm here in Illinois this is definitely a cull. If I was allowed to use my bow then that's what I would have used. The gun only tag allows for an extra buck to be taken, this is the reason i bought the gun only tag. This is not a big deer for here but I had no questions I was going to take him when he came out.


ok u think taking that buck makes the other bucks bigger?lol lol lol how many does do you think he could breed anyway? nice deer btw but culling it wont matter

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#3040727 - 11/19/12 03:49 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: RAFI]
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That buck "might" get to breed one or two does but the doe that had him will put out a dozen+ fawns in her life with that genetic makeup if she lives. So unless you kill the doe that's responsible for his genetics you haven't accomplished anything.
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#3040745 - 11/19/12 04:04 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
Cull buck...yes. Bow hunter...yes. Was not allowed to use bow during gun only in Illinois. On my farm here in Illinois this is definitely a cull. If I was allowed to use my bow then that's what I would have used. The gun only tag allows for an extra buck to be taken, this is the reason i bought the gun only tag. This is not a big deer for here but I had no questions I was going to take him when he came out.


ok u think taking that buck makes the other bucks bigger?lol lol lol how many does do you think he could breed anyway? nice deer btw but culling it wont matter
Never said anything about it making other bucks bigger, don't know how you came to that conclusion. I took him out because of the odd antler shape. I really like the buck and am glad I got him, win win for me. So lol lol lol all you want. Thanks for the attempt at a congrats, seemed a little contrived.
Also this deer was aged at 4.5, totally surprised me because I thought he was going to be younger based off body size. Either way I wanted him gone and I got him out and couldn't be happier.

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#3040751 - 11/19/12 04:12 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: deerhunter10]
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Nice deer man headed up to Illinois in about a week and a half. And to the people saying crap about his cull buck lay off he obviously knows what he doing.
Thanks man. I'm not worried about these other guys, they seem to just be bitter about their selections of bucks. Some I respect as good hunters but most are just wannabes.
You should have a good hunt when you get up to Illinois, there is still good action happening and hopefully you will score on a good buck, good luck to you!

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#3040756 - 11/19/12 04:15 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Hollar Hunter]
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That buck "might" get to breed one or two does but the doe that had him will put out a dozen+ fawns in her life with that genetic makeup if she lives. So unless you kill the doe that's responsible for his genetics you haven't accomplished anything.
True, I agree to a point. I take as many does as I can but will never know the ones that are spreading the bad genes. Either way, I have a blast trying to get em.

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#3040765 - 11/19/12 04:23 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: Tomahawk]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: Tomahawk
Cull buck...yes. Bow hunter...yes. Was not allowed to use bow during gun only in Illinois. On my farm here in Illinois this is definitely a cull. If I was allowed to use my bow then that's what I would have used. The gun only tag allows for an extra buck to be taken, this is the reason i bought the gun only tag. This is not a big deer for here but I had no questions I was going to take him when he came out.


ok u think taking that buck makes the other bucks bigger?lol lol lol how many does do you think he could breed anyway? nice deer btw but culling it wont matter
Never said anything about it making other bucks bigger, don't know how you came to that conclusion. I took him out because of the odd antler shape. I really like the buck and am glad I got him, win win for me. So lol lol lol all you want. Thanks for the attempt at a congrats, seemed a little contrived.
Also this deer was aged at 4.5, totally surprised me because I thought he was going to be younger based off body size. Either way I wanted him gone and I got him out and couldn't be happier.


didnt you call it a cull deer ?lol you tried to act like you were doing the deer herd good just joking with with btw


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#3040768 - 11/19/12 04:24 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: RAFI]
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#3040797 - 11/19/12 04:49 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: deerhunter10]
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Congrats Tomahawk. Very nice buck!

I think the responses you are getting is due to your use of the word "cull" for such a fine animal. When the word is used as a noun, a common definition for "cull" is: something rejected especially as being inferior or worthless. I can't imagine that buck being considered either.
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#3040901 - 11/19/12 06:05 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: BSK]
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Probably the reason for the flack you sre tsking is you are on a Tennessee deer forum. Am sure you would find an Illinois deer forum would not be so harsh. Compare it to a couple of millionaires complaining about car troubles with their Mercedes around a bunch of regular folks at the local "Buy here, Pay here" car lot.
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#3040923 - 11/19/12 06:23 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: BSK]
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Congrats Tomahawk. Very nice buck!

I think the responses you are getting is due to your use of the word "cull" for such a fine animal. When the word is used as a noun, a common definition for "cull" is: something rejected especially as being inferior or worthless. I can't imagine that buck being considered either.
Thanks BSK, I agree, I believe I was not clear enough on what cull means to me. I certainly don't mean to come off conceded or trying to down play anyone else's hunting situation. This buck scored right at 133 and though that's a good score, it's lower end for other 4.5 yo around this area. The picture makes him look much better than he really is.

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#3040937 - 11/19/12 06:35 PM Re: Culler 9 point [Re: pcrc]
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Probably the reason for the flack you sre tsking is you are on a Tennessee deer forum. Am sure you would find an Illinois deer forum would not be so harsh. Compare it to a couple of millionaires complaining about car troubles with their Mercedes around a bunch of regular folks at the local "Buy here, Pay here" car lot.
Appreciate your input. I live and primarily hunt TN, this is why I'm on TN deer. Never the less I post bucks when I kill them no matter what state I take them in. Even though I hunt Illinois, my biggest buck is out of TN (166), so to me it's not comparing millionaires to regular folks. I have farms in west TN that have several great bucks running around as far as antler size is concerned. I love to try and hunt them and from time to time take out bucks that are just flat screwed up with their antlers. Example: I have several bucks running around with just a spike on one side and regular rack on the other. I always kill them when giving the opportunity. It doesn't matter if their 1.5 or 4.5 years old, they will always have that screwed up side, it's just a bad gene and not from injuries.

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