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#3037549 - 11/17/12 11:19 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: Elmer]
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At our farm th only dogs we run into are the ones someone left for dead back in "the middle of nowhere'. Our road tuns through a wma. So its alot of fun for those guys to get all their stuff together just to have a dog screw it up. The other dogs are the ones people drop to run deer off our place back to the wma. Down the road at my buddy's place the meth head neighbors have three dogs that kill the deer and go for your throat if they see you. Told him to shoot him. They wont because they are afraid their cabin will get burned down. The county can't catch them. So what do you do. Sticky situation.
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#3039742 - 11/19/12 03:10 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: Mudbone]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
After a warning, dog gets shot. That dog may decide to chase a kid. Then what? I guess it's just instinct. Or maybe every hunter in tn that has dogs in their woods should go to a wma or the mountains with jarhead, cause its not the dogs fault if they bite somebody or chase deer. To hell with the leash law huh?
I didnt know or READ that the dogs was chasing kids or trying to bite someone ? Most dogs dont go from chasing game to kids !!
And no its not the dogs fault !!!!!!
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#3039931 - 11/19/12 07:40 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: JARHEAD]
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Last I checked we have leash laws in TN, and if the owner allows their dog to run around off their property it's negligent. We also have a "Dangerous" dogs list here in TN.

You have the right to defend yourself from a viscous dog by means of deadly force. But only after it bites you "One" time due to our "One Bite Law". But if you kill a dog just because it's "Trying" to attack you, you will be at fault.

Get pictures, and video of the dog(s), and do what was done here. They cannot ignore that evidence. Animal Control cannot do anything unless they have that evidence, or catch the dog(s) away from the owners property.

TN actually has very strict dog laws. You just have to find the right person that actually cares to uphold those laws!

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stustnst44_17_101_505.htm

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#3039947 - 11/19/12 07:55 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: Mudbone]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
After a warning, dog gets shot. That dog may decide to chase a kid. Then what? I guess it's just instinct. Or maybe every hunter in tn that has dogs in their woods should go to a wma or the mountains with jarhead, cause its not the dogs fault if they bite somebody or chase deer. To hell with the leash law huh?


WOW! I guess I shouldn't let kids rabbit hunt with us then. My big bad mean beagles might chase one of them next.
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#3039982 - 11/19/12 08:14 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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 Originally Posted By: AlabamaSwamper
 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
After a warning, dog gets shot. That dog may decide to chase a kid. Then what? I guess it's just instinct. Or maybe every hunter in tn that has dogs in their woods should go to a wma or the mountains with jarhead, cause its not the dogs fault if they bite somebody or chase deer. To hell with the leash law huh?


WOW! I guess I shouldn't let kids rabbit hunt with us then. My big bad mean beagles might chase one of them next.



If the "Beagles" are on YOUR property, then you shouldn't have a problem. But if the "Beagles" are on someone elses property, without permission from that landowner, then YOU are breaking the law.
It doesn't matter what type of dog it is. The law is the law, and you have no consideration for other landowners around you.

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#3040105 - 11/19/12 09:43 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: m411b]
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 Originally Posted By: m411b
 Originally Posted By: AlabamaSwamper
 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
After a warning, dog gets shot. That dog may decide to chase a kid. Then what? I guess it's just instinct. Or maybe every hunter in tn that has dogs in their woods should go to a wma or the mountains with jarhead, cause its not the dogs fault if they bite somebody or chase deer. To hell with the leash law huh?


WOW! I guess I shouldn't let kids rabbit hunt with us then. My big bad mean beagles might chase one of them next.



If the "Beagles" are on YOUR property, then you shouldn't have a problem. But if the "Beagles" are on someone elses property, without permission from that landowner, then YOU are breaking the law.
It doesn't matter what type of dog it is. The law is the law, and you have no consideration for other landowners around you.


Please link me the law that they are violating if hunting dogs stray off of somebody's property so I can make note of it and be better educated.

I don't think you are correct, so I will let you better educate me.


Edited by scn (11/19/12 09:58 AM)
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#3040156 - 11/19/12 10:28 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: scn]
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I don't want someones dog on my property anytime of year. But it really doesn't have a chance if I'm in my stand with a weapon. People have no reaspect for what is not theirs. Or it maybe that alot of people think they are entitled. Just look at our country!
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#3040364 - 11/19/12 11:58 AM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: scn]
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 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: m411b
 Originally Posted By: AlabamaSwamper
 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
After a warning, dog gets shot. That dog may decide to chase a kid. Then what? I guess it's just instinct. Or maybe every hunter in tn that has dogs in their woods should go to a wma or the mountains with jarhead, cause its not the dogs fault if they bite somebody or chase deer. To hell with the leash law huh?


WOW! I guess I shouldn't let kids rabbit hunt with us then. My big bad mean beagles might chase one of them next.



If the "Beagles" are on YOUR property, then you shouldn't have a problem. But if the "Beagles" are on someone elses property, without permission from that landowner, then YOU are breaking the law.
It doesn't matter what type of dog it is. The law is the law, and you have no consideration for other landowners around you.


Please link me the law that they are violating if hunting dogs stray off of somebody's property so I can make note of it and be better educated.

I don't think you are correct, so I will let you better educate me.


 Originally Posted By: m411b
Last I checked we have leash laws in TN, and if the owner allows their dog to run around off their property it's negligent. We also have a "Dangerous" dogs list here in TN.

You have the right to defend yourself from a viscous dog by means of deadly force. But only after it bites you "One" time due to our "One Bite Law". But if you kill a dog just because it's "Trying" to attack you, you will be at fault.

Get pictures, and video of the dog(s), and do what was done here. They cannot ignore that evidence. Animal Control cannot do anything unless they have that evidence, or catch the dog(s) away from the owners property.

TN actually has very strict dog laws. You just have to find the right person that actually cares to uphold those laws!

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stustnst44_17_101_505.htm


Bottom line if your dog goes onto someone elses land without permission. You are breaking the law.

http://www.mcgtn.org/sites/default/files/animal-control/Animal_Control_Regulations.pdf

This link is Montgomery Co. Animal Control's site. But it cites TN code. Scroll down to confinement, and at large.
http://www.mcgtn.org/animal-control/regulations


Edited by m411b (11/19/12 12:04 PM)

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#3040410 - 11/19/12 12:17 PM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: m411b]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: m411b
 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: m411b
 Originally Posted By: AlabamaSwamper
 Originally Posted By: Mudbone
After a warning, dog gets shot. That dog may decide to chase a kid. Then what? I guess it's just instinct. Or maybe every hunter in tn that has dogs in their woods should go to a wma or the mountains with jarhead, cause its not the dogs fault if they bite somebody or chase deer. To hell with the leash law huh?


WOW! I guess I shouldn't let kids rabbit hunt with us then. My big bad mean beagles might chase one of them next.



If the "Beagles" are on YOUR property, then you shouldn't have a problem. But if the "Beagles" are on someone elses property, without permission from that landowner, then YOU are breaking the law.
It doesn't matter what type of dog it is. The law is the law, and you have no consideration for other landowners around you.


Please link me the law that they are violating if hunting dogs stray off of somebody's property so I can make note of it and be better educated.

I don't think you are correct, so I will let you better educate me.


 Originally Posted By: m411b
Last I checked we have leash laws in TN, and if the owner allows their dog to run around off their property it's negligent. We also have a "Dangerous" dogs list here in TN.

You have the right to defend yourself from a viscous dog by means of deadly force. But only after it bites you "One" time due to our "One Bite Law". But if you kill a dog just because it's "Trying" to attack you, you will be at fault.

Get pictures, and video of the dog(s), and do what was done here. They cannot ignore that evidence. Animal Control cannot do anything unless they have that evidence, or catch the dog(s) away from the owners property.

TN actually has very strict dog laws. You just have to find the right person that actually cares to uphold those laws!

http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stustnst44_17_101_505.htm


Bottom line if your dog goes onto someone elses land without permission. You are breaking the law.

http://www.mcgtn.org/sites/default/files/animal-control/Animal_Control_Regulations.pdf

This link is Montgomery Co. Animal Control's site. But it cites TN code. Scroll down to confinement, and at large.
http://www.mcgtn.org/animal-control/regulations


State law supercedes any county ordinance. When it specifically says that dogs on a hunt are exempt from the leash laws, etc., it is pretty doubtful that those ordinances will hold up in court for a hunting animal.

Please link me to a state statute that supports your position. I still think you are wrong in your statement.


Edited by scn (11/19/12 12:32 PM)
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#3040419 - 11/19/12 12:22 PM Re: Why can't you tie up your dogs? [Re: scn]
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TCA 44-8-408:

(c) It is an exception to the application of this section that:

(1) The dog was on a hunt or chase;

(2) The dog was on the way to or from a hunt or chase;
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