#3036230 - 11/16/12 10:36 AM
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Before all the pro union people on board blast me for this post. Think about how many people are out of jobs and this group is not smart enough to keep theirs.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/16/hos...ng-union-fight/
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#3036238 - 11/16/12 10:39 AM
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#3036253 - 11/16/12 10:46 AM
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Our greed, our worthlessness, our lack of working TOGETHER as a sensible nation is eating away at us like a Cancer!
One things for sure... The further this United States goes away from Jesus Christ, the further down hill we go!!
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#3036274 - 11/16/12 11:02 AM
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Does anyone remember "The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company" AKA A&P? The exact same thing happened there when the union got too big for their britches.
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#3036275 - 11/16/12 11:02 AM
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How can this be? Barry was supposed to be a uniter.
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#3036357 - 11/16/12 12:05 PM
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Unions are selfish, greedy, business closers
read the article! hostess has cut and cut on these people for the past 10 years.
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#3036359 - 11/16/12 12:05 PM
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Sorry about the job losses but, you've got to know when to fold ! I can see benefits for a union but, as a past member of one, I can also see the downfalls! When you go on strike for some reason....if you count the time you lose and what you wind up getting, you hardly ever make up for your losses!
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#3036362 - 11/16/12 12:06 PM
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Reminds me of Peterbuilt.
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#3036377 - 11/16/12 12:17 PM
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Unions are selfish, greedy, business closers read the article! hostess has cut and cut on these people for the past 10 years.
When the math doesn't work out anymore cuts have to be made. A reasonable person would say "this sucks but I still have a place to work". A union person says "I'd rather shut the whole place down and nobody have a job".
Same crap happened with Peterbilt in Nashville, my dad and his buddies would rather be walking that line than take a small cut in pay and have 80-20 insurance instead of 100%. Peterbilt said we can't keep it the way it is and be profitable. The union said no, so Peterbilt shut it down and moved what they could to Texas. So intead of making a little less money, those people including my dad lost most everything they had. It makes no sense to me.
I hear Wal-Mart hires this time of year and they start at $7-$8 an hour with little benefits. Maybe they can go there?
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#3036378 - 11/16/12 12:18 PM
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Just another reason why Unions are, and should be, a thing of the past. Thanks Unions—you own this!
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#3036384 - 11/16/12 12:23 PM
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Let's hope Hostess sets back up in a flaming red state.
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#3036390 - 11/16/12 12:29 PM
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Unions are selfish, greedy, business closers read the article! hostess has cut and cut on these people for the past 10 years.
I don't have to read diddly to understand the math, the greed and the job loss caused by unions, however I did read it.. Is it your belief that, regardless of Profit, the employees should make ample $?? It's not my belief. My belief is that the Business comes 1st and as employees, we choose to stay or go based on whatever they are offering versus our own needs.
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#3036397 - 11/16/12 12:35 PM
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as employees, we choose to stay or go based on whatever they are offering versus our own needs. to each his own
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#3036405 - 11/16/12 12:41 PM
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Libs believe companies are there to keep people employed. Conservatives believe companies are there to make a profit while offering a service to its customers.
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#3036485 - 11/16/12 01:54 PM
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#3036490 - 11/16/12 01:58 PM
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I'm sure they have made some cuts. Many people in the private sector also have had to make those cuts. Good luck finding another job. Remember you worked at a bakery. Not trying to downsize people, but that isn't a skillset that companies are looking for. I had to take a rate cut, haven't had a raise in 4 years, Obama has really hurt. And his higher taxes will not help matters either.
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#3036499 - 11/16/12 02:05 PM
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as employees, we choose to stay or go based on whatever they are offering versus our own needs. to each his own
Sorry but I have to ask.... Do you believe that as an employee you should matter more than the business?
Without a business, employees are unnecessary SO what's important, moulding a business to suit employees or, keeping a business profitable so they can offer jobs?
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#3036505 - 11/16/12 02:07 PM
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It boils down to the principle that we as employees are there to provide for the company. The company is not in business to provide for employees. The sense of entitlement in this country blows my mind.
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#3036513 - 11/16/12 02:10 PM
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The sense of entitlement in this country blows my mind.
Yep, x2.
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#3036545 - 11/16/12 02:37 PM
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Just think, the names Twinkie and Hoho will only be known as slang terms within the next generation. Of course, who ever thought that Cornhole would be a game that is played in public?
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#3036558 - 11/16/12 02:52 PM
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as employees, we choose to stay or go based on whatever they are offering versus our own needs. to each his own Sorry but I have to ask.... Do you believe that as an employee you should matter more than the business? Without a business, employees are unnecessary SO what's important, moulding a business to suit employees or, keeping a business profitable so they can offer jobs?
I bet if his wife or kids asked for a new $50,000 auto every year, do you think he'd say "We can't afford that", or say, "Sure, it doesen't matter that our financial situation can't sustain that, let's do it anyway".
What's the difference?
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#3036561 - 11/16/12 02:55 PM
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Couldnt have been said any better..... True statement!!!
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#3036569 - 11/16/12 03:05 PM
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So many experts so little time. They said computers would make us smarter lol
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#3036573 - 11/16/12 03:12 PM
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So many experts so little time. They said computers would make us smarter lol
Yep.. Problem is that far too many rely on computers and experts instead of common sense nowadays, leading to the greed and upcoming failure of a nation.
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#3036575 - 11/16/12 03:14 PM
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Afraid to answer the question, are we?
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#3036604 - 11/16/12 03:41 PM
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beachguy, you're fixing to live the dream. You're going to find out exactly who drives the economy, the employed or the employer. The amount of taxes the average family and the small businesses are going to have to absorb is going to be more painful than a kidney stone. Whom absorbs the increase? Business? Nope. The consumer. Sit back and watch your world heave and wretch due to voting in a clueless hack for a second term. Enjoy.
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#3036614 - 11/16/12 03:50 PM
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as employees, we choose to stay or go based on whatever they are offering versus our own needs. to each his own Sorry but I have to ask.... Do you believe that as an employee you should matter more than the business? Without a business, employees are unnecessary SO what's important, moulding a business to suit employees or, keeping a business profitable so they can offer jobs? I bet if his wife or kids asked for a new $50,000 auto every year, do you think he'd say "We can't afford that", or say, "Sure, it doesen't matter that our financial situation can't sustain that, let's do it anyway". What's the difference?
Telling the wife or kid "NO!" won't shut the business down like a group of self-entitled unionists.
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#3036630 - 11/16/12 04:03 PM
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Read today that under KenyaCare the new "full-time" is 28 hrs or more.
Looks like a lot of people will be working 2 jobs. Thanks democrats.
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#3036633 - 11/16/12 04:05 PM
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beachguy, you're fixing to live the dream. You're going to find out exactly who drives the economy, the employed or the employer. The amount of taxes the average family and the small businesses are going to have to absorb is going to be more painful than a kidney stone. Whom absorbs the increase? Business? Nope. The consumer. Sit back and watch your world heave and wretch due to voting in a clueless hack for a second term. Enjoy. I heard this 4 years ago
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#3036635 - 11/16/12 04:06 PM
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And you still refuse to pay attention. The man has been on a powergrab for 4 years. Just because NBC doesn't report it doesn't mean it ain't happening.
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#3036653 - 11/16/12 04:17 PM
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beachguy, put the sports page down and look around. We're gonna be 20 trillion in the hole in four years. That's the number obama's people came up with. With Americans thinking like you do, we'll never get out of this fiscal mess. Don't choke on your apathy.
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#3036657 - 11/16/12 04:19 PM
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I heard this 4 years ago [/quote]
and now your living it. the producer in this case did what the rest of us producers are going to do. enjoy
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#3036666 - 11/16/12 04:24 PM
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beachguy, you're fixing to live the dream. You're going to find out exactly who drives the economy, the employed or the employer. The amount of taxes the average family and the small businesses are going to have to absorb is going to be more painful than a kidney stone. Whom absorbs the increase? Business? Nope. The consumer. Sit back and watch your world heave and wretch due to voting in a clueless hack for a second term. Enjoy. I heard this 4 years ago And you've seen it, too; you're just unwilling to admit it.
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#3036675 - 11/16/12 04:29 PM
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beachguy, put the sports page down and look around. We're gonna be 20 trillion in the hole in four years. That's the number obama's people came up with. With Americans thinking like you do, we'll never get out of this fiscal mess. Don't choke on your apathy. Ok, what do want me to do? Seriously, what do you want me to do?
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#3036678 - 11/16/12 04:32 PM
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Ok, what do want me to do? Seriously, what do you want me to do?
Selecting your vote based upon solid, economic principles, rather than the emotional baggage of the Welfare Party.
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#3036687 - 11/16/12 04:38 PM
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I voted for MR, now what?
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#3036692 - 11/16/12 04:41 PM
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I'd like for you to quit posting like a spoiled liberal brat that implies you support the fiscal road we're speeding down with no brakes, for four more years. I don't know how old you are, but show some guts and find out what the remainder of your life may look like if half of the population continues to feed off the production of the other half. We've elected a freakin slot machine when we should have purchased a buttplug and a can of bear repellant. But, that's just me.
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#3036694 - 11/16/12 04:42 PM
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beachguy, put the sports page down and look around. We're gonna be 20 trillion in the hole in four years. That's the number obama's people came up with. With Americans thinking like you do, we'll never get out of this fiscal mess. Don't choke on your apathy. Ok, what do want me to do? Seriously, what do you want me to do?
I hate these threds and what they do but i will make an observation.
I take it from the piling on and your responses you support Obama. You also are a front runner in getting rid of Dooley because he hasn't produced in 3 years with the mess he inherited.
Now if you put the two side by side DD took a horrible situation and made the program better and moving in the right direction. He made one bad hire and the set back will cost him his job BUT he improved the overall situation.
Obama took a situation and made it worse in 4 years and makes bad hire and decision time after time.
So given these facts why does DD not get another year or two to right the ship but Obama gets 4 more years without even a plan. At least DD has a plan.
this is just an observation and I am not saying I do oe do not support either one....
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#3036699 - 11/16/12 04:47 PM
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I don't support Obama. i'm not gonna crawl under my bed in the fetal position and scream the sky is falling.
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#3036700 - 11/16/12 04:48 PM
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I'd like for you to quit posting like a spoiled liberal brat that implies you support the fiscal road we're speeding down with no brakes, for four more years. I don't know how old you are, but show some guts and find out what the remainder of your life may look like if half of the population continues to feed off the production of the other half. We've elected a freakin slot machine when we should have purchased a buttplug and a can of bear repellant. But, that's just me. ok, I'll try and post more like you want sir.
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#3036725 - 11/16/12 05:07 PM
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I was just asking....
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#3036760 - 11/16/12 05:37 PM
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Odd how people think a company OWES people jobs and that their bottom line doesn't mean anything.
Thanks to the Obamamessiah , we are going to see unemployment nearly double in the next 4 years. Mark my words. when all of these tax hikes and Obamacare mandates go into effect, people are going to be hurting.
I suggest investing in canned goods, being self reliant , owning plenty of ammo, and having a "Plan B" to create an income that can dodge many of the economic pitfalls that are about to happen.
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#3036781 - 11/16/12 05:54 PM
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It all comes down to the company making a profit. Union or non-union it doesn't matter, if there is no profit everybody loses. A lot of folks lost jobs because of this, at a very bad time.
I would like to see what they were asking for and the profits that hostess made last year. I want to know all the story instead of just want they want you to hear.
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#3036843 - 11/16/12 06:43 PM
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I think the union is a good example of where our country is headed.
A few mafia style socialist goons running the show and collecting the loot. A few more "team players" jumping on the bandwagon to be part of the cool crowd and get in on the action. A Few more people who go along because they are scared of what will happen to them if they disagree. And a Pile of good folks who haven't been paying attention and don't think it matters.....yet.
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#3036848 - 11/16/12 06:44 PM
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I think the union is a good example of where our country is headed.
A few mafia style socialist goons running the show and collecting the loot. A few more "team players" jumping on the bandwagon to be part of the cool crowd and get in on the action. A Few more people who go along because they are scared of what will happen to them if they disagree. And a Pile of good folks who haven't been paying attention and don't think it matters.....yet.
Fair assessment!
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#3036965 - 11/16/12 07:51 PM
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I cannot post on here what I feel about the union and unions in general... it would be deleted.... Les just say.. typical Union scum..
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#3036996 - 11/16/12 08:04 PM
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Vermin93
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It all comes down to the company making a profit. Union or non-union it doesn't matter, if there is no profit everybody loses. A lot of folks lost jobs because of this, at a very bad time.
I would like to see what they were asking for and the profits that hostess made last year. I want to know all the story instead of just want they want you to hear.
harvester - it was reported yesterday that the Teamsters got to take a detailed look at Hostess's financials. The Teamster's tried to get the baker's union to come to their senses, but they were not successful.
"Hostess set a deadline of 5 p.m. Thursday for the bakers' strike to end, otherwise it would seek liquidation. The Teamsters responded by publicly calling upon the bakers' union to hold a secret ballot vote to decide whether to continue the strike -- an indication that the Teamsters felt some of the bakers' union rank-and-file may have felt differently about the strike than union leadership.
Ken Hall, the Teamsters secretary-treasurer, said his union didn't doubt Hostess' claims after seeing its books.
"I think it's obvious there was no bluff," said Hall. "Our financial advisers had looked at their books, they had total access. We pushed them in negotiations to where we thought it was the absolute limit, that we would get the most for our members and [still] have a pathway back to prosperity for the company. The bakers' union disagreed with that."
"Frankly, I feel sick about what's going on here," Hall added. "It's a tragic day for 18,000 workers.""
Hostess Liquidation: Teamsters Seen As Collateral Damage In Bakers Union Strike
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#3037137 - 11/16/12 09:48 PM
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beachguy, it's obvious you don't get it and that's fine. You apparently are not alone.
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#3037285 - 11/17/12 06:17 AM
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Union guys wouldn't work in a pie factory.
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#3037483 - 11/17/12 10:11 AM
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beachguy, it's obvious you don't get it and that's fine. You apparently are not alone. i don't get what? i voted MR. BO sucks. but what do you want me to do? he is in for 4 years now. ya, he increased the debt, ya he made it easier on the deadbeats. what do you wanna do, a 300 Tndeer march to the Whitehouse?
i dont get it?..all i did was reply to the article, "hostess has cut and cut on these people for the past 10 years" and they have. that doesn't make me Jimmy Hoffa.
you need to get that everyone doesn't think like you or believe in the same things as you. theres a whole big world out there thats full of opinions.
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#3038372 - 11/17/12 11:18 PM
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I hope everyone has a couple thousand twinkies stashed in your attic, you will need them soon when we are all starving.
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#3038390 - 11/18/12 01:07 AM
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ShaneHallum
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Union guys wouldn't work in a pie factory.
I will if it pays the bills.
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#3041113 - 11/19/12 08:28 PM
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I have always found it interesting that when a company posts a profit people he pissed off. I have owned two businesses. One of them I made money and sold for a profit the other I closed and lost a ton of money. So profit is a must. Think of your own self as a business and your weekly earnings is your profit. You either can pay your bills and live off it or you can't. It's the same as a company. So no profit no job on either end. I don't know how many employees were on strike and lost a job but the union would live to have their monthly dues I am sure.
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#3041145 - 11/19/12 08:46 PM
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I work in the Snack Cake industry. I can assure you that the industry as a whole makes only a marginal profit per unit. These are short shelf life products. Most of these products are made to order and must be delivered to stores in a tight time window. Raw materials and transportation costs have increased rapidly over the past two years. The problem is compounded by the buyers at stores demanding low costs. If you can't pass on increased costs you have to absorb them.
Throw a Union in the mix and the profits shrink to a point that it is no longer feasible to remain in business.
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#3041838 - 11/20/12 09:42 AM
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