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#3034588 - 11/15/12 12:00 PM HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split
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I'll try to be brief.

Haven't picked up my Savage 7mag since last year. I had three rounds in the removeable clip (stored separately). Put the clip in and all three rounds fired perfect (within 4 inches of each other).

Went to load the clip again and the spring worked but would not click into lower position when I loaded the rounds.

So I loaded them manually into the chamber and let the bolt push them in.

Fisrt shot was a hangfire. Next two the casings were either bulged or bulged/split when fired.

Gun is only 4 y/o and haven't ran more than 4 boxes of ammo through it.

I shoot Rem Core-locked ammo. What I was shooting today was bought last year about this time.

I shoot Rem Core-lokt ammo. The bulge/split are near the bottom at the belt (I believe it's called).

Is this an ammo problem or chamber problem????
I really don't want to shoot this gun again until I get the problems solved.
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#3034595 - 11/15/12 12:05 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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Sounds like ammo to me.
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#3034645 - 11/15/12 12:31 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: BigD_625]
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How did the bolt feel when locking it in place with the damaged rounds???

I would contact Remington immediately with the batch & run #'s and tell them what is going on.

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#3034648 - 11/15/12 12:32 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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Almost sounds like the hangfire round didn't get enough powder and the next ones got too much.
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#3034937 - 11/15/12 03:19 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: BigD_625]
Pic IN the Casa
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Quality isn't the best.

First three are ones that fired right.


Edited by Pic IN the Casa (11/15/12 03:20 PM)
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#3034948 - 11/15/12 03:34 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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See my response in the General Forum.
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#3034973 - 11/15/12 03:47 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: infoman jr.]
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Wrong ammo!!!!!!!!!!! two diff. cases in that pic.

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#3034991 - 11/15/12 03:58 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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Looks like 270 or 30-06 brass on the right.
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#3034995 - 11/15/12 04:00 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Jcalder]
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 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
Looks like 270 or 30-06 brass on the right.


I would suspect the .270, I doubt the 06 would go down the pipe.

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#3035018 - 11/15/12 04:15 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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I have been lucky I guess,the worst I ever did was a 260 round in a 308,,
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#3035067 - 11/15/12 04:48 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: mr.big]
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I agree. 30-06 would have been catastrophic. But you can tell a big difference in the brass.
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#3035140 - 11/15/12 05:47 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: mr.big]
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 Originally Posted By: mr.big
I have been lucky I guess,the worst I ever did was a 260 round in a 308,,




I made the same mistake with a 243 in a 358. The neck split in about 6 places and straitened out. Sounded like a 22 mag when it went off.
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#3035215 - 11/15/12 06:31 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
Wrong ammo!!!!!!!!!!! two diff. cases in that pic.

FDXX75

Good eye!!! I missed it when I first looked, but you are exactly right.
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#3035809 - 11/16/12 06:12 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
Looks like 270 or 30-06 brass on the right.


I would suspect the .270, I doubt the 06 would go down the pipe.

FDXX75

Could be 7MM Mauser.
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#3035840 - 11/16/12 06:36 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: bigtex]
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 Originally Posted By: bigtex
 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
Looks like 270 or 30-06 brass on the right.


I would suspect the .270, I doubt the 06 would go down the pipe.

FDXX75

Could be 7MM Mauser.


I think we should take bets. LOL My money is on the .280,
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#3035858 - 11/16/12 06:48 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: bigtex]
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 Originally Posted By: bigtex
 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
Looks like 270 or 30-06 brass on the right.


I would suspect the .270, I doubt the 06 would go down the pipe.

FDXX75

Could be 7MM Mauser.


I mentioned that on the General Forum thread about this..............
I walked into a ammo shop once and asked for a box of 7 mil ammo, the guy bagged it and I paid him and walked out, got all the way home to find 7mm Mauser, not 7mm rem mag. I should have been more specific, he should have known enough to ask, but it happens.

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#3035940 - 11/16/12 08:03 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
 Originally Posted By: bigtex
 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
 Originally Posted By: Jcalder
Looks like 270 or 30-06 brass on the right.


I would suspect the .270, I doubt the 06 would go down the pipe.

FDXX75

Could be 7MM Mauser.


I mentioned that on the General Forum thread about this..............
I walked into a ammo shop once and asked for a box of 7 mil ammo, the guy bagged it and I paid him and walked out, got all the way home to find 7mm Mauser, not 7mm rem mag. I should have been more specific, he should have known enough to ask, but it happens.

FDXX75


Saw a guy on FB selling a 7mm Rem Mag with 2 boxes of 7mm wby ammo. I sent him a PM to let him know, so he could pull the ammo.
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#3036005 - 11/16/12 08:32 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: BigD_625]
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 Originally Posted By: BigD_625


I think we should take bets. LOL My money is on the .280,

50 cents? lol.
Either way .280 or 7MM Mauser. Either one shoots a 7MM bullet. The .270 would go down the barrell but it would rattle a little bit. ;\)
Thank God it wasn't a .30 Caliber, that could of been nasty if it had chambered.
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#3036071 - 11/16/12 08:59 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: bigtex]
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I am curious as to how the incorrect shells got extracted from the chamber???

I doubt it happened by just opening the bolt and it shucked them out???? That should have been a clear sign after the first one, something was wrong......................

Not to mention, if you saw the first shell in that condition, Why on God's green earth would you drop a second one down the tube without investigating first.

Now I am curious as to why he is not posting a reply with the answer to the question...................What caliber were those cases???? Really!!!!!!!


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#3036084 - 11/16/12 09:06 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: bigtex]
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.270 it is. Funny thing is I don't even own a 270. The box had six 270 rounds and the rest were 7mags.

Only thing I can figure is I bought a box of ammo that somebody threw 270 ammo in to make a whole box and then returned it. Box says 7mm mag. Unbelieveable!!! I would've either bought it at BPS or Wal Mart.

Serious lesson learned- Check the ammo- don't trust the box.

Thank you Jesus.

Now- am I safe to shoot the gun or should I have it checked????
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#3036102 - 11/16/12 09:12 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
.270 it is. Funny thing is I don't even own a 270. The box had six 270 rounds and the rest were 7mags.

Only thing I can figure is I bought a box of ammo that somebody threw 270 ammo in to make a whole box and then returned it. Box says 7mm mag. Unbelieveable!!! I would've either bought it at BPS or Wal Mart.

Serious lesson learned- Check the ammo- don't trust the box.

Thank you Jesus.

Now- am I safe to shoot the gun or should I have it checked????

Since it was a .270 that is probably the best case scenario as the .270 bullet is a little smaller that a 7MM [.280]
Personally, if your rifle shows no signs of damage, [bulged receiver etc] I would shoot it. Just my opinion, you do what makes you feel safe. Personally I think if the gun was going to fail it would of already done so.
Glad your ok.
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#3036118 - 11/16/12 09:22 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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Wow
Thank God you didn't get hurt!
I always look at the caliber on the shells just to verify the correct bullets, expecially if you own similar calibers like 280,270, or 30-06. Calibers like 270 and 7mm Remington Mag. should be a dead give away, big difference.
I do realize as you get older just like me, the eyes aren't like they used to be anymore. I have to use readers now just to verify calibers> stamped on the bottom. It's heck getting older.
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#3036119 - 11/16/12 09:22 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: bigtex]
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Personally, for safety & piece of mind sake........I would either look it over really really good, looking for stress crackes in the chamber, nicks/chips in the entry lands or damage to the bolt face.

My concern would be the reaction the empty space around the case/chamber had on the chamber during detination.

If you are not comfortable making the decision yourself, take it to a qualified gunsmith and tell them what happened.

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#3036130 - 11/16/12 09:27 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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Yes get it checked out.
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#3036197 - 11/16/12 10:10 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: 280longshot]
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Walmart doesn't do returns on ammo, so it wouldn't be them. Glad you're ok. Good lesson for everyone.
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#3036271 - 11/16/12 11:00 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: BigD_625]
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Just had it checked- all good.

Savage (at least this model) has a gas port to allow for such an instance.

BigD- I have a friend that is a mgr at a walmart and he told me that, until recently, they did take unopened boxes back. He told me that some stores only do for exchanges and some flat out don't anymore.

He has a lot of great stories about things people have tried to pull over on them.
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#3036278 - 11/16/12 11:04 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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Just had it checked- all good.

Savage (at least this model) has a gas port to allow for such an instance.

BigD- I have a friend that is a mgr at a walmart and he told me that, until recently, they did take unopened boxes back. He told me that some stores only do for exchanges and some flat out don't anymore.

He has a lot of great stories about things people have tried to pull over on them.


Good to know...no more wal-mart ammo. LOL
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#3036280 - 11/16/12 11:07 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: BigD_625]
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I bet from now on I open a box and look at every round.
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#3036282 - 11/16/12 11:08 AM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
I bet from now on I open a box and look at every round.



I've probably bought my last loaded round anyway. Bought a few along, then reloads only.
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#3036416 - 11/16/12 12:51 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
Just had it checked- all good.


That's great!!!
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#3037959 - 11/17/12 06:07 PM Re: HELP- Savage 7mag/Remington shell case bulge/split [Re: bigtex]
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I bet some little turd swapped the ammo around at the store to play tricks on people....glad your ok
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