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#3033771 - 11/14/12 10:19 PM Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress
sgtwebb1
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All I can say is that I feel the profound need to apologize to a few on this forum who I disagreed with regarding Ron Paul during the Presidential primaries.
I still don't agree with Paul on everything, but I must admit, I probably agree with about 98% of what he had to say in his farewell address to Congress.

48 minutes of profound oratory, the likes of which I have heard but a few times in my 50 years on this earth.

Read the transcript. It's nothing short of brilliant.

Ron Paul's speech

Honestly, in retrospect, I want to change my vote............. \:\(
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#3033781 - 11/14/12 10:30 PM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: sgtwebb1]
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That was the man to begin to turn this country around, but the establishment didnt want it.
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#3033814 - 11/15/12 12:27 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: smstone22]
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He gets it. While I don't agree with everything, I do with most. Seeking Personal power has ruined America.
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#3033942 - 11/15/12 06:43 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: SilverFox]
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I agree with some of his ideas and beliefs, but still glad to see him go.
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#3033957 - 11/15/12 07:02 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: stick1]
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From his speech:

Excessive government has created such a mess it prompts many questions:

Why are sick people who use medical marijuana put in prison?
Why does the federal government restrict the drinking of raw milk?
Why can’t Americans manufacturer rope and other products from hemp?
Why are Americans not allowed to use gold and silver as legal tender as mandated by the Constitution?
Why is Germany concerned enough to consider repatriating their gold held by the FED for her in New York? Is it that the trust in the U.S. and dollar supremacy beginning to wane?
Why do our political leaders believe it’s unnecessary to thoroughly audit our own gold?
Why can’t Americans decide which type of light bulbs they can buy?
Why is the TSA permitted to abuse the rights of any American traveling by air?
Why should there be mandatory sentences – even up to life for crimes without victims – as our drug laws require?
Why have we allowed the federal government to regulate commodes in our homes?
Why is it political suicide for anyone to criticize AIPAC ?
Why haven’t we given up on the drug war since it’s an obvious failure and violates the people’s rights? Has nobody noticed that the authorities can’t even keep drugs out of the prisons? How can making our entire society a prison solve the problem?
Why do we sacrifice so much getting needlessly involved in border disputes and civil strife around the world and ignore the root cause of the most deadly border in the world-the one between Mexico and the US?
Why does Congress willingly give up its prerogatives to the Executive Branch?
Why does changing the party in power never change policy? Could it be that the views of both parties are essentially the same?
Why did the big banks, the large corporations, and foreign banks and foreign central banks get bailed out in 2008 and the middle class lost their jobs and their homes?
Why do so many in the government and the federal officials believe that creating money out of thin air creates wealth?
Why do so many accept the deeply flawed principle that government bureaucrats and politicians can protect us from ourselves without totally destroying the principle of liberty?
Why can’t people understand that war always destroys wealth and liberty?
Why is there so little concern for the Executive Order that gives the President authority to establish a “kill list,” including American citizens, of those targeted for assassination?
Why is patriotism thought to be blind loyalty to the government and the politicians who run it, rather than loyalty to the principles of liberty and support for the people? Real patriotism is a willingness to challenge the government when it’s wrong.
Why is it is claimed that if people won’t or can’t take care of their own needs, that people in government can do it for them?
Why did we ever give the government a safe haven for initiating violence against the people?
Why do some members defend free markets, but not civil liberties?
Why do some members defend civil liberties but not free markets? Aren’t they the same?
Why don’t more defend both economic liberty and personal liberty?
Why are there not more individuals who seek to intellectually influence others to bring about positive changes than those who seek power to force others to obey their commands?
Why does the use of religion to support a social gospel and preemptive wars, both of which requires authoritarians to use violence, or the threat of violence, go unchallenged? Aggression and forced redistribution of wealth has nothing to do with the teachings of the world great religions.
Why do we allow the government and the Federal Reserve to disseminate false information dealing with both economic and foreign policy?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority?
Why should anyone be surprised that Congress has no credibility, since there’s such a disconnect between what politicians say and what they do?
Is there any explanation for all the deception, the unhappiness, the fear of the future, the loss of confidence in our leaders, the distrust, the anger and frustration? Yes there is, and there’s a way to reverse these attitudes. The negative perceptions are logical and a consequence of bad policies bringing about our problems. Identification of the problems and recognizing the cause allow the proper changes to come easy.
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#3034009 - 11/15/12 07:43 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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These are all good questions.
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#3034043 - 11/15/12 08:11 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: Poser]
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Domestically, I agree with him more than I disagree with him—about 90%. Foreign policy and his global view is what myself and many, many other have a problem with—I 98% disagree with his non-domestic policies and views because it is exponentially more dangerous and naive than the baffoon we have "leading" this country now. He did get the needle moving and caused some to become involved in the discussion and for that I'm grateful—otherwise, I'm glad he is getting out of way.
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#3034044 - 11/15/12 08:11 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: sgtwebb1]
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 Originally Posted By: sgtwebb1
All I can say is that I feel the profound need to apologize to a few on this forum who I disagreed with regarding Ron Paul during the Presidential primaries.
I still don't agree with Paul on everything, but I must admit, I probably agree with about 98% of what he had to say in his farewell address to Congress.

48 minutes of profound oratory, the likes of which I have heard but a few times in my 50 years on this earth.

Read the transcript. It's nothing short of brilliant.

Ron Paul's speech

Honestly, in retrospect, I want to change my vote............. \:\(


If you liked that one, he has a 1999 speech predicting a large terrorist attack in the US because of our foreign policies AND he has a 2003 speech predicting the financial crisis of 2008.

Not everyone can support a politician with principles, intelligence, and tells you exactly how it is without pandering. It would be hard for a true conservative to actually read his own words and listen to his speeches and not support the liberty movement. However, someone content to use the media and republican establishment spin on his ideas will have no problem criticizing what he stands for.
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#3034062 - 11/15/12 08:22 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: de novo]
BirdDog123
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I feel the same way as you Webb.. I didn't agree on a few things (looking back were minor) with Ron Paul so I didn't vote for him. My buddy was a delegate for him in Alabama.. It took me a while to realize it but Ron Paul was one of the few, if not the only, politician who truly had his own ideas about how to improve our country. He was truly free, unlike all of these others who are controlled by corporations and large interest groups.
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#3034142 - 11/15/12 08:54 AM Re: Ron Paul's farewell address to Congress [Re: BirdDog123]
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Fiscally he's dead on. Foreign policy is very liberal (blaming us for 9-11) and isolationism will NOT work now. The toothpaste is out of the tube.

I'd take him over Alexander or Corker ANY day.

At any rate- Godspeed Mr. Paul. You are one of only a few patriots that are/have served the country over the last two decades.
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