#3027361 - 11/11/12 08:54 AM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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tasaman
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Glad you got got it all worked out. I've used 5744 and agree with Tar12 that the powder is very consistent. I've shot up 1 1/2 lbs between 3 different guns and all of them performed at very least decent and one gun really likes the stuff. I've never used the orange MMP sabots and from the sounds of it I am glad BCRs work in my guns.
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#3028314 - 11/11/12 07:48 PM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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worse powder ever made
i wouldnt use it for nothing my buddy came over with his new savage and that powder (new can) barnes 300 gn
700-900 fps with 43 grains
bullets tumbling
loaded same bullet and sabot 68 gns h4198
cutting holes 2350 fps
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#3029920 - 11/12/12 04:20 PM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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I must have gotten a bad can of 5744. It cost me a buck, time, ammo, and blood pressure. The switch to Reloader 7 gave me 250 more fps and it is said to be as reliable as 5744 but cleaner burning. After a fouling shot, the gun loads easier than with 5744. I'm glad I made the switch. Thanks all for the input.
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#3030177 - 11/12/12 06:51 PM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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Tar12
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I am glad that you are back to consistancy again. Do you remember how many grns of N120 you tried in the past with 300 grn bullets? I shoot N120 in my .50s and 45s and love it. I am shy of 2450 in the .50 cal and 2750 in the .45.
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#3030231 - 11/12/12 07:33 PM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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I am glad that you are back to consistancy again. Do you remember how many grns of N120 you tried in the past with 300 grn bullets? I shoot N120 in my .50s and 45s and love it. I am shy of 2450 in the .50 cal and 2750 in the .45.
How many gns are you shooting for that speed? I am shooting 60 pushing a 300exp
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#3030440 - 11/12/12 10:00 PM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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i am sure of the powder
it was shootin 12 inch groups at best
i told my bud we are using my powder h4198 68 gns and wal lah
cutting holes
it may be a bad batch or lot but it is what it was
i have never been a fan of AA powders any way
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#3030561 - 11/13/12 05:01 AM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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Tar12
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I am glad that you are back to consistancy again. Do you remember how many grns of N120 you tried in the past with 300 grn bullets? I shoot N120 in my .50s and 45s and love it. I am shy of 2450 in the .50 cal and 2750 in the .45. How many gns are you shooting for that speed? I am shooting 60 pushing a 300exp
Here is some load data for 300 grn bullets that I have shot in my .50s
4759
44 grs- 2042 fps
VV N120
55 grs- 2190 fps
60 grs-2290 fps
62 grs- 2425 fps
H4198
63 grs- 2260 fps
67 grs- 2400 fps
IMR4198
65 grs- 2330 fps
H332
75 grs- 2300 fps
Reloader 7
63 grs- 2234 fps
65 grs- 2392 fps
10x
72 grs- 2306 fps
75 grs – 2435 fps
These numbers will vary from gun to gun and chrono but no more than 100fps on avg.I was shooting 60 grns of N120 in the .45 but have bumped it up to 62 grns. I have not ran that across the chrony yet but the accuracy is still there.Thats very potent bambi medicine pushing the all copper Barnes 195 BX.I have shot the N120 up to 69 grns and was just shy of 3000 fps but starting blowing sabots and backed off to a charge weight that would not blow sabots.I think 62-63 grns of N120 in the .45 is going to be the sweet spot.
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#3031046 - 11/13/12 09:54 AM
Re: Savage and 325 gr FTX
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holstonangler
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worse powder ever made
i wouldnt use it for nothing my buddy came over with his new savage and that powder (new can) barnes 300 gn
700-900 fps with 43 grains
bullets tumbling
loaded same bullet and sabot 68 gns h4198
cutting holes 2350 fps
lol where are you getting that data? I guess you are unaware of the well known misfires with h4198. The powder is not the cause of tumbling bullets. I use RL7, 10X, and 5744, and they all cut holes at 100 yards using the 325 ftx.
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I would like to get a chrono soon. I believe I'm gonna try some Barnes originals for next year. Although the exp certianly does a very nice job on deer.
