#3009421 - 10/31/12 02:47 PM
Re: Beech trees
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Many of what are thought to be understory beeches are Carpinus caroliniana, American Hornbeam, aka "blue beech", or "Ironwood, hold their leaves a long time, not Fagus grandiflora,American Beech.
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#3009433 - 10/31/12 02:58 PM
Re: Beech trees
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Nope, these are Fagus grandifolia, and they do hold their dead leaves most of the winter.
I do see quite a bit of Ironwood. But their trunk shape is destinctly different than American Beech.
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#3009464 - 10/31/12 03:13 PM
Re: Beech trees
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Plenty of both out there.
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#3028563 - 11/11/12 09:59 PM
Re: Beech trees
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Deer/turkeys like them but one thing i have def. noticed about them is the sporadic prodution. Usually in our area they only produce about 1 out of every 3 to 4 years. Sawtooths would be a better investment..............imo.
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#3028965 - 11/12/12 07:57 AM
Re: Beech trees
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Turkeys like them but sawmills dont! One thing I hate the most is walking into a patch of woods and see Beech trees that are 50 years older than the other hardwoods, high grading years ago have made this prevalent in my area.
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#3030013 - 11/12/12 05:27 PM
Re: Beech trees
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Appreciate the comments. I like to encourage diversity. I have only about six mature beech on 140 acres. I have already planted 500 sawtooth and 2500 other oaks. The swamp chestnut (white oak) and willow oaks are prolific and naturally occuring. I fight tooth and nail with the river birch and the box elder. I also cut as many of the ironwood as I can get to for firewood. I have an outdoor wood heating system so I feed it as much ironwood, birch, sycamore, gum, willow, and box elder as I can. It means I have to feed it more often but is preferable to cutting more desireable trees. There are also bent, broken, or crowded maple, oak, and ash I can mix up with these for heat.
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#3030057 - 11/12/12 05:42 PM
Re: Beech trees
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I have only about six mature beech on 140 acres.
Wow. Along my creeks, I probably have a mature beech for every acre (and 50 immature beech!).
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#3030085 - 11/12/12 05:58 PM
Re: Beech trees
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No wonder you feel as you do about them! Along my creek it never really dries out - maybe they don't like wet feet? I know different trees grow in different areas. In middle Tennessee the hackberry is very common as well - I've never seen one in West Tennessee. I don't see as many walnut or black locust here either, though they are here.
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#3030660 - 11/13/12 06:44 AM
Re: Beech trees
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We have so many beeches in the bottoms of valleys because traditionally loggers couldn't get down in the valleys. Beeches also tend to like moister soil and shadier conditions than other hardwoods, hence most of the beeches are on the north-facing slopes, very low in topography.
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#3034871 - 11/15/12 02:36 PM
Re: Beech trees
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so,Im guessing when the timber company comes in to select cut the lease,the Beechs will really take off?Any use for them besides aging Budweiser?
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