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#3029187 - 11/12/12 10:07 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: Crappie Luck]
worriedman
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The whole point Crappie, is to make the average Citizen as dependent on Government as possible. In that, they are having marvelous success.
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#3029217 - 11/12/12 10:21 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: worriedman]
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No argument from me on that point
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#3029285 - 11/12/12 11:05 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: Crappie Luck]
TennesseeRains
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Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/elec...tion-to-secede/
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#3029317 - 11/12/12 11:34 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: TennesseeRains]
MidTennFisher
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If the petitions get 25,000 votes that means the White House will "respond" and we all know what the response is going to be. No. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see that America is fired up but I don't believe for a second that this administration is going to let states secede. That's not what they want, they want us all under their Marxist control and they're not going to stop until they have it.
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#3029375 - 11/12/12 12:06 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: MidTennFisher]
fishboy1
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 Originally Posted By: MidTennFisher
 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
 Originally Posted By: MidTennFisher
 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
I think One simple change would "FIX" what is wrong with America.

If you have received funds from the Federal government in the past 24 months you are ineligible to vote. Employment, loans, welfare....


So because I receive student loans to finish up college I wouldn't be allowed to vote? I'm not going for some B.S. major either like womens studies or art history, I'm studying electrical engineering. Having to have a photo ID to vote would help. Isn't it amazing how Obama lost every state that has voter ID laws? It's time to face the facts here, it's over for this country. Roughly 50% of this country was ready and willing to re-elect a Communist and they succeeded. We're not America anymore, not what great men fought and died for. We've been rolled by a community organizer Marxist and it's disgusting. We'll survive but things are going to be very different going forward (no pun intended). Save your money, I can't stress it enough. Save your money, and buy ammo.



Yes.. If you receive student loans there is a direct conflict of interest. No vote.

Government should NOT be in the student loan business.
College degrees were worth something when they were hard to get.


That's ridiculous. I'm as Conservative as everyone else in here and I see nothing wrong with taking out student loans for degrees that will result in me actually helping this country. Liberal Arts, Ethnic Studies, Art History, etc. yes...complete waste of time and money. Some college degrees are certainly still worth something and electrical engineering is one of them. It's still very hard to earn, regardless of student loans.



Nothing ridiculous about it. While you are getting $$$ from the government you should not get to vote for people who will exchange MORE government $$$ for your vote. It is a clear and direct conflict of interest. As soon as you have your Government loan paid off, your voting rights are restored.

As soon as you leave government "service" and take a private sector job, your voting rights are restored.

People gripe about congress voting themselves benefits and pay raises..... The only difference is the scale.
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#3029455 - 11/12/12 12:42 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: fishboy1]
LSUtigers
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Fishboy I have to agree!!
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#3029535 - 11/12/12 01:13 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: LSUtigers]
MidTennFisher
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Well I took a year off of school to work an internship... by your astounding logic if only the election were last year instead of this year I would have been able to vote huh? There is nothing in the Constitution about not having a right to vote if you're receiving some sort of Government service so your argument is beyond ridiculous. Do you drive on paved roads? Government service. Do you fish and/or hunt on TWRA managed property? Government service. Have you ever called the police or benefit from them protecting us? Guess what? Government service. None of you would be able to vote then. You said only when I take a private sector job I should be able to vote. I guess this excludes all military, policemen, firefighters, city workers, etc from voting. What you're saying is beyond ridiculous. I take out student loans to finish college with a REAL degree that I will use to provide for myself and my future family for the rest of our lives. I vote Conservative. I always have and always will.
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#3029551 - 11/12/12 01:18 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: fishboy1]
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1


As soon as you leave government "service" and take a private sector job, your voting rights are restored.


Are you also implying that anyone working for the government, directly or indirectly, should not receive a vote?

If so, then not only does someone who is indebted to the government lose their vote, but also anyone who sells their skills, products, services, etc to a government assisted program.

Take for instance the following example: a self-employed building contractor was recently awarded a contract to perform a scope of work for a federal government entity. Does this small business owner also lose the right to vote due to a conflict of interest?

I understand that your point was in regards to student loan programs. Just curious of your views and possibly it's just a misinterpretation of a post.

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#3029578 - 11/12/12 01:33 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: Outdoor Enthusiast]
JN
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With that thought process we should also exclude our veterans and military personal and anyone else working at a veteran's hospital.
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#3029603 - 11/12/12 01:39 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: JN]
BMan
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Only the 'rats try to exclude military votes.
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