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#3029539 - 11/12/12 01:14 PM Blood Tracking With Dog
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I have been training a dog to blood track this season and would like to get a little help on the reporting process. The required process of calling the TWRA Regional office has been very cumbersome to say the least. The 800#'s don't always work, the number sometimes goes to an automated system that kicks me out. When I get a live person I am always having to explain the process of why I'm calling and that the hunting regulations require it. Sometimes I am asked to call a local official, who may or may not be availible and then I have to call the Regional Office back.

So the questions are...what are the best numbers to call where I will get a live person? Can I bypass the 800 #'s and call a particular officer? If I have made every reasonable attempt to contact the TWRA but have not talked to anyone can I proceed with tracking? Is there a number that I can send a text message or email with all the required information if an officer is not available?

A few suggestions I have are; being able to send a text, email or PM on this forum to document the track instead of calling a person. Setting up an online dog tracking check-in site like the big game check-in. Allowing people to annually register or get a confirmation number as a tracking service instead of calling in on individual tracks.

Let me end with the officers that I have talked to have been very professional and helpfull...it has just been hard getting to that point. The easier the process the more likely people will comply with the regulations.

Feel free to contact me to discuss further through this forum or directly by any of the following methods.

deertracktn@gmail.com
615-476-6081

Thank you for your time and assistance.

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#3033634 - 11/14/12 08:19 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: deertracktn]
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Can one of you offer any suggestions or provide some assistance in making the call-in process a little easier? Zero replies in two days is a little discouraging.

Biggameguy
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#3033642 - 11/14/12 08:23 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: deertracktn]
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I think you have a legitimate question, with a not so easy answer. Good luck. I would still like to see some pics of that dog. Ive been looking at getting a jagdterrier for years.
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#3033661 - 11/14/12 08:35 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: trealtree]
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I would bypass the 800 numbers and use the direct line numbers into the regional office. After 4:30, use the after hour or poaching hotline numbers.

This forum has no official connection to TWRA, so it is not an appropriate venue for tracking any track activities.

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#3033731 - 11/14/12 09:22 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: scn]
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Thank you for the response and I have saved those numbers in my phone as suggested.
If for some reason I am unable to get a live person on the phone can I proceed with the track or do I have to wait until I speak with someone? Time is usually of the essence.
I fully understand this forum is not an offcial connection to the TWRA. I was only trying to suggest other possible contact alternatives to make the process a little easier and to aid in documenting the required information for blood tracking with a dog. Heck I bet this forum is a great venue for tracking and documenting illegal actives, so it wouldn't be unreasonible to use it for tracking legal activities as well. Again only suggestions to improve the process.

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#3033756 - 11/14/12 09:55 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: deertracktn]
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I would not track without logging the call with a TWRA person. To do otherwise opens you up to a potential violation of hunting deer with dogs.
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#3033760 - 11/14/12 09:59 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: scn]
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What would be the possibility of him getting some kind of a license or permit from TWRA that allows him to track based on criteria that TWRA establishes and allows him to bypass this problem with calling in, which seems to be a little difficult?

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#3033763 - 11/14/12 10:06 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: smyrnagc]
scn
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 Originally Posted By: smyrnagc
What would be the possibility of him getting some kind of a license or permit from TWRA that allows him to track based on criteria that TWRA establishes and allows him to bypass this problem with calling in, which seems to be a little difficult?


He seems to be the only one having a problem with the calling in for this as I've never received a complaint from anyone else. During the 8-4:30 hours it should be no problem to get logged into the system. After 4:30 may be a little more of a problem, but should be doable as well.

The critical piece of the information is the exact location of the track. To have it otherwise with just a registration number opens up a real possibility of abuse by people wanting to use dogs to hunt deer illegally.



Edited by scn (11/14/12 10:09 PM)

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#3035436 - 11/15/12 08:06 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: scn]
RackHntr
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I thought as long as the dog was on the leash and you wasnt carrying a firearm you could track a blood trail anytime. Thats what I was told anyway.
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#3035453 - 11/15/12 08:13 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: RackHntr]
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 Originally Posted By: RackHntr
I thought as long as the dog was on the leash and you wasnt carrying a firearm you could track a blood trail anytime. Thats what I was told anyway.


You were told incorrectly. There are certain things you have to do where it won't be considered as illegally hunting with dogs.

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#3035454 - 11/15/12 08:13 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: RackHntr]
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Do what I've done and get to know your local wildlife officer and give him a call or text when you head out on a tracking job. I've done it four times this season and has worked like a charm.
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#3035671 - 11/15/12 10:26 PM Re: Blood Tracking With Dog [Re: scn]
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Maybe I am the only one calling in or the only one that cares enough about doing the right thing to make a suggestion to improve the process? How many don't try to call in or only make one attempt and give up on trying and just go track? Probably can't answer that because they didn't "complain about" or "have a problem with" not getting caught.

I'm sure if I do call between 8-4:30 Monday-Friday it won't be a problem at all. And your right about it being "doable" after 4:30 or on the weekends but it definitely isn't easy or consistent. I hate to state the obvious but I am not usually needed to track deer during normal business hours. The point is the process is not perfect. Maybe the TWRA and its agents should be a little more open to suggestions for improving processes and less annoyed by the idea that someone outside the TWRA might have good idea.

I know you saw the picture of my dog, you pointed out every possible illegal infraction in the picture none of which were valid, do you really think all 18 lbls of her is going to "hunt" a deer? She is on a leash, I don't carry a weapon and I am looking for something that is dead...how am I hunting? I know what the TCA states about hunting(hunt, chase, take, trap or kill) all of which are done to living animals. A better description of what I am attempting to do would be investigate, search and retrieve...dead animals.

There are probably only a hand full of people within the state that have a dog for the specific purpose of finding lost game. All of which are probably trying to do the right thing and are the least likely ones to use a dog illegally. I assure you come hell or high water without regard to the hour of the night someone with the TWRA is going to get a phone call to log in my track. Then you will know the person at that critical piece of information is the one doing the right thing!

You have a great night and thank you for hindering our ethical responsibility to make every attempt to recover the game we hunt.

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