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#3027029 - 11/10/12 09:09 PM Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States
Beardendy88
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#3027429 - 11/11/12 09:47 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: ]
Locksley
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Hey this was tried years ago by better men than us and they were defeated in the end .
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#3027465 - 11/11/12 10:20 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: Locksley]
fishboy1
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I think it would be a better choice to "opt out" of most federal programs....AND refuse to make the citizens of TN pay the taxes to fund them.

Those that want to keep the Federal Programs are free to move away.
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#3027823 - 11/11/12 03:38 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: ]
waynesworld
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 Originally Posted By: youngandfree
I have spoken with good friends who are members of the Tennessee legislature about this. It wont ever happen. We will be crushed with import and export taxes.


There are a lot of reasons why this will not happen but all they would do is join the NAFTA \:\) But if the red states were to join together and leave then the other states could not inforce import taxes they would have to trade free with the red states. They would starve. And if some thing like that would start you would see states breaking apart

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#3028037 - 11/11/12 05:45 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: waynesworld]
fishboy1
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I think One simple change would "FIX" what is wrong with America.

If you have received funds from the Federal government in the past 24 months you are ineligible to vote. Employment, loans, welfare....
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#3028043 - 11/11/12 05:47 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: waynesworld]
timberjack86
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Signed it!
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#3028060 - 11/11/12 05:59 PM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: fishboy1]
MidTennFisher
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
I think One simple change would "FIX" what is wrong with America.

If you have received funds from the Federal government in the past 24 months you are ineligible to vote. Employment, loans, welfare....


So because I receive student loans to finish up college I wouldn't be allowed to vote? I'm not going for some B.S. major either like womens studies or art history, I'm studying electrical engineering. Having to have a photo ID to vote would help. Isn't it amazing how Obama lost every state that has voter ID laws? It's time to face the facts here, it's over for this country. Roughly 50% of this country was ready and willing to re-elect a Communist and they succeeded. We're not America anymore, not what great men fought and died for. We've been rolled by a community organizer Marxist and it's disgusting. We'll survive but things are going to be very different going forward (no pun intended). Save your money, I can't stress it enough. Save your money, and buy ammo.
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#3028787 - 11/12/12 06:27 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: MidTennFisher]
fishboy1
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 Originally Posted By: MidTennFisher
 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
I think One simple change would "FIX" what is wrong with America.

If you have received funds from the Federal government in the past 24 months you are ineligible to vote. Employment, loans, welfare....


So because I receive student loans to finish up college I wouldn't be allowed to vote? I'm not going for some B.S. major either like womens studies or art history, I'm studying electrical engineering. Having to have a photo ID to vote would help. Isn't it amazing how Obama lost every state that has voter ID laws? It's time to face the facts here, it's over for this country. Roughly 50% of this country was ready and willing to re-elect a Communist and they succeeded. We're not America anymore, not what great men fought and died for. We've been rolled by a community organizer Marxist and it's disgusting. We'll survive but things are going to be very different going forward (no pun intended). Save your money, I can't stress it enough. Save your money, and buy ammo.



Yes.. If you receive student loans there is a direct conflict of interest. No vote.

Government should NOT be in the student loan business.
College degrees were worth something when they were hard to get.
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#3029172 - 11/12/12 09:51 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: fishboy1]
MidTennFisher
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
 Originally Posted By: MidTennFisher
 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
I think One simple change would "FIX" what is wrong with America.

If you have received funds from the Federal government in the past 24 months you are ineligible to vote. Employment, loans, welfare....


So because I receive student loans to finish up college I wouldn't be allowed to vote? I'm not going for some B.S. major either like womens studies or art history, I'm studying electrical engineering. Having to have a photo ID to vote would help. Isn't it amazing how Obama lost every state that has voter ID laws? It's time to face the facts here, it's over for this country. Roughly 50% of this country was ready and willing to re-elect a Communist and they succeeded. We're not America anymore, not what great men fought and died for. We've been rolled by a community organizer Marxist and it's disgusting. We'll survive but things are going to be very different going forward (no pun intended). Save your money, I can't stress it enough. Save your money, and buy ammo.



Yes.. If you receive student loans there is a direct conflict of interest. No vote.

Government should NOT be in the student loan business.
College degrees were worth something when they were hard to get.


That's ridiculous. I'm as Conservative as everyone else in here and I see nothing wrong with taking out student loans for degrees that will result in me actually helping this country. Liberal Arts, Ethnic Studies, Art History, etc. yes...complete waste of time and money. Some college degrees are certainly still worth something and electrical engineering is one of them. It's still very hard to earn, regardless of student loans.


Edited by MidTennFisher (11/12/12 09:52 AM)
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#3029178 - 11/12/12 09:56 AM Re: Tennessee Petition to withdraw from United States [Re: MidTennFisher]
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The point is, student loans should NOT come from the govt. That's is what banks are for.
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