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#3022595 - 11/08/12 06:35 AM Is 300 grain sabot too much?
BraveScout
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I have been shooting a 300 grain sabot with 100 grain load of Blachorn 209 out of my Traditions Vortec. Actually had the screws in my scope base break off in the gun, but I think it was just faulty screws. Was told at local gun shop this was a little much, both sabot and load. Should I reduce to a 250 grain sabot and 90 grain Blackhorn?
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#3022598 - 11/08/12 06:37 AM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: BraveScout]
tasaman
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Sounds like you overtightend the screws. You only need 20 to 30 INCH pounds of torque. Not foot pounds.
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#3022611 - 11/08/12 06:46 AM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: tasaman]
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#3022654 - 11/08/12 07:12 AM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: UTGrad]
tasaman
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Ok well I'm shooting 300 gr bullets and Smokeless powder and know of hundreds of others doing the same. Nobody I know has broken any screws. Some of the guys are generating as much or more recoil as a 300 Win mag or a 12 gauge 3 1/2 inch turkey load. I don't think your anywhere near that. And also it sounds like you need to find a new gun shop they are feeding you bull.
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#3022681 - 11/08/12 07:31 AM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: tasaman]
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So would I lose accuracy by reducing to 90 gr of Blackhorn? The reason I ask is I used 100 gr of 777 back when I used it, and I know Blackhorn is a litter hotter.
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#3022690 - 11/08/12 07:38 AM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: BraveScout]
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You may actually gain accuracy. Some guns don't like that much powder.
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#3023118 - 11/08/12 11:40 AM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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heck i shoot a 405 bullet with 105 loose 777
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#3023247 - 11/08/12 01:06 PM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: Rubberduck270]
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
You may actually gain accuracy. Some guns don't like that much powder.


This happened to me when I decreased from magnum pyrodex loads (150 gr) to normal loads (100 gr). Accuracy increased greatly.
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#3023991 - 11/08/12 08:55 PM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: Dbllunger]
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I shoot 100 grains of BH209 and 300 grain Hornady XTPs and Harvester 300 grain Scorpion PT Golds. Never had any problem like you are experiencing.
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#3025446 - 11/09/12 05:15 PM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: smyrnagc]
fastbs
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Use blue thread locker and tighten to 15-20 in lbs. Your load is fine, shooting 90gr bh209 and 300gr xtp here.
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#3031328 - 11/13/12 12:54 PM Re: Is 300 grain sabot too much? [Re: fastbs]
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I used a 300 gr Hornady XTP with 100 gr loose 777, to shoot through this:



And immediately through this:



I don't like shooting through brush, but the 300 XTP has a heck of a lot of momentum. I think I'll keep using them.
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