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#3021943 - 11/07/12 06:39 PM Electoral College vs. Popular Vote
high country
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Is the electoral college outdated? Should the country go strictly to a popular vote format? I know Obama won both electoral college and popular vote but is it time for a change? I like the electoral college myself, I just think it's time to revamp the electoral system. I would like to see every state get "1" electoral college vote and it take "26" to win the presidency!!! That would ensure every state plays a roll and everyone has a voice. I don't like the popular vote concept because large metropolitan cities would have a distinct advantage. A candidate would only have to campaign in major cities which tend to vote heavily democratic. With their heavy population one major city could nullify many rural county votes. Not sure just random thoughts trying to figure this whole thing out!!!
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#3021958 - 11/07/12 06:46 PM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: high country]
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 Originally Posted By: high country
Is the electoral college outdated? Should the country go strictly to a popular vote format? I know Obama won both electoral college and popular vote but is it time for a change? I like the electoral college myself, I just think it's time to revamp the electoral system. I would like to see every state get "1" electoral college vote and it take "26" to win the presidency!!! That would ensure every state plays a roll and everyone has a voice. I don't like the popular vote concept because large metropolitan cities would have a distinct advantage. A candidate would only have to campaign in major cities which tend to vote heavily democratic. With their heavy population one major city could nullify many rural county votes. Not sure just random thoughts trying to figure this whole thing out!!!


That is exactly what would happen if we went with the one per state vote—the rural voices would be buried by the larger more heavily populated metro cities. The system we have is the best one out there—one for each Congressional delegate. It is not broken, it is just that the electorate dynamic has changed and the Republican Party has not changed with it.

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#3021998 - 11/07/12 07:05 PM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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Ive been wondering what would happen if the congressional representatives (435) cast their electoral vote in accordance with their districts instead of the state popular vote. Rural America woule have a much louder voice.
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#3022089 - 11/07/12 07:49 PM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: 44fanatic]
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 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
Ive been wondering what would happen if the congressional representatives (435) cast their electoral vote in accordance with their districts instead of the state popular vote. Rural America woule have a much louder voice.


When it was created that is exactly what the Federalists had in mind, but the EC has morphed into its current state due to the States appointing the electors on a "winner take all" basis that coincides with the State popular vote—with the exclusion of Maine and Nebraska. If we would go back to the electors voting on the basis of their Congressional district the metro areas would have a significant loss of impact on a Presidential Elections—"swing States" would notice the same drop as well.

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#3022348 - 11/07/12 10:14 PM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: TNDeerGuy]
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I HATE the winner take all Electoral College system.

The Electors should be assigned, each according to the elected Congressman/Senators from each district.
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#3023193 - 11/08/12 12:35 PM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: sgtwebb1]
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Proportional destribution is the way to go...

Obama got 10 million less votes than he got in 2008.

Romney got 3 million less votes than McCain did on 2008.

Obama beat Romney by less than 3 million votes.

Question - who's fault is it that Romney did not win?

IMO - If the Republicans had just turned out like they did in 2008 or 2010 Romney would have won..
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#3023226 - 11/08/12 12:55 PM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: TOW]
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With all the yankees moving down here for jobs, at least give us a few more electoral points. \:\)
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#3024289 - 11/09/12 05:21 AM Re: Electoral College vs. Popular Vote [Re: TOW]
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 Originally Posted By: TOW
Proportional destribution is the way to go...

Obama got 10 million less votes than he got in 2008.

Romney got 3 million less votes than McCain did on 2008.

Obama beat Romney by less than 3 million votes.

Question - who's fault is it that Romney did not win?

IMO - If the Republicans had just turned out like they did in 2008 or 2010 Romney would have won..



It is becoming clearer that this is what happened. I saw that 50% of the evangelicals are registered, and only half of them turned out. The left wanted it more than the Repubs, and they got it. Looks like to many Repubs their childrens' future means less than free stuff for the dems. Well, now they get to pay for the free stuff.

And I do not include true conservatives with the Repubs. We held our noses and voted for a moderate Repub, and they left us hanging.
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