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#3023501 - 11/08/12 04:12 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: Beardendy88]
4onaside
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20 people have posted on this topic, and I assume that these 20 voted for Romney, although there may be a non-voter or two in the group(not unusual). Obama won. The only thing that any of us can do about it for the next four years, is to make sure that you vote for people in the mid-terms(two years hence) that will counter the executive branch. I've lived a long time by understanding that I do not agonize over something that I have no control over, as in who is president for the next four years. I have a life other than this activity and plan to devote my entire time to it. For those of you who do not, have fun and watch your blood pressure! lol
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#3023568 - 11/08/12 04:56 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: 4onaside]
Dale3
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 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
20 people have posted on this topic, and I assume that these 20 voted for Romney, although there may be a non-voter or two in the group(not unusual). Obama won. The only thing that any of us can do about it for the next four years, is to make sure that you vote for people in the mid-terms(two years hence) that will counter the executive branch. I've lived a long time by understanding that I do not agonize over something that I have no control over, as in who is president for the next four years. I have a life other than this activity and plan to devote my entire time to it. For those of you who do not, have fun and watch your blood pressure! lol


Yet you are reading and posting yourself, that makes you #21 LOL

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#3023666 - 11/08/12 06:22 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: griz104]
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 Originally Posted By: griz104
Romney lost because he stood for nothing and he stood for everything. As Governor he was pro-choice and anti-#$%$ault weapons as a presidential candidate he was anti-choice and pro-#$%$ault weapons. As a candidate he said he'd eliminate FEMA and give the function to the 50 states or private companies (yeah that will work) but then along came Sany and he said he would not eliminate FEMA. He said he created jobs while at Bain then it came out all he did was take money from companies leaving the companies to go bankrupt and the jobs lost. He was for elimination of don't ask don't tell then he said it was a mistake to eliminate it. He was a proponent of campaign spending limits but then he said any attempt to limit campaign financing was an attack on freedom. He was for the McCain bill to overhaul immigration then he was against it and signed a bill to authorize state troopers to round of illegal immigrants. At one time he supported Roe v. Wade then he wanted it overruled, same thing for stem cell research, he was for it then he turned against it. Romney did whatever was expedient to help his political ambitions. But the thing that bothered me most he said he was going to fight deficits by lowering revenue of which the wealthy again would get the lion share. He said this would be revenue neutral but never said what he would get rid of to offset the drop in revenue. How any thinking, country loving person could support this #$%$ is beyond me.


I have no idea where you got your info but more than 90% of it is dead wrong. Most of those are lies Obama and the Democrats painted against Romney before the debates so it looks like you fell for them hook, line and sinker.
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#3023937 - 11/08/12 08:35 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: backwoodsoutfitters]
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 Originally Posted By: backwoodsoutfitters
The reason Romney lost is because so many blacks and latinos voted for Obama. They are running our country now.

Really? You must be posting from Colorado right? First off who gives a rats [censored] what color any voter is? As long as its a legal vote it really does not matter. Obama won because the republicans didn't run a conservative. I see no reason to play the race card because someone voted. We should be playing the stupid card on those who didn't vote.

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#3023947 - 11/08/12 08:38 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: Fordman]
Bambi Buster
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 Originally Posted By: Fordman
 Originally Posted By: backwoodsoutfitters
The reason Romney lost is because so many blacks and latinos voted for Obama. They are running our country now.

Really? You must be posting from Colorado right? First off who gives a rats [censored] what color any voter is? As long as its a legal vote it really does not matter. Obama won because the republicans didn't run a conservative. I see no reason to play the race card because someone voted. We should be playing the stupid card on those who didn't vote.


All the racial aspects aside for a moment, do you really believe that?
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#3023964 - 11/08/12 08:46 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: Bambi Buster]
Fordman
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No I don't think Romney was conservative enough to win. Do you think he was? Its matter of opinion I know but mine is republican party beat themselves out of the last two elections by being afraid to put a real conservative candidate on the ticket.
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#3023978 - 11/08/12 08:51 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: Fordman]
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 Originally Posted By: Fordman
No I don't think Romney was conservative enough to win. Do you think he was? Its matter of opinion I know but mine is republican party beat themselves out of the last two elections by being afraid to put a real conservative candidate on the ticket.


I don't believe there are enough conservatives in the electorate for ANY conservative to win. I am not convinced that a Paul/West ticket or a Palin/Nugent would have fared any better than Romney/Ryan.
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#3024002 - 11/08/12 09:00 PM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Fordman
No I don't think Romney was conservative enough to win. Do you think he was? Its matter of opinion I know but mine is republican party beat themselves out of the last two elections by being afraid to put a real conservative candidate on the ticket.


I don't believe there are enough conservatives in the electorate for ANY conservative to win. I am not convinced that a Paul/West ticket or a Palin/Nugent would have fared any better than Romney/Ryan.

I cant say that given the current crop of Americans that you may not be right.

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#3024247 - 11/09/12 04:12 AM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: Fordman]
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I think the biggest reason Romney lost is the MSM.

For months you didn't hear anything longer than a 5 second sound bite from Romney but thousands of hours of media coverage selectively telling you what he said, what he meant, and the liberal lie/spin on his policy.

Look at how posters on here think the Ryan budget plan was "far right" throwing grandma off a cliff. When the FACT was that it simply froze spending at its current levels. NOT responsible enough.

If the average American who gets their "news" from nightly television started getting BOTH sides of the story.... there would be a great deal of enlightenment. I don't believe that over half of Americans are socialists, racists, and stupid.

I DO believe that over half of Americans are victim of a systematic ongoing propaganda campaign that is designed to keep us in the dark while the government politically connected class robs us blind.
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#3024278 - 11/09/12 05:01 AM Re: 10 Reasons Romney Lost [Re: fishboy1]
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
I think the biggest reason Romney lost is the MSM.

For months you didn't hear anything longer than a 5 second sound bite from Romney but thousands of hours of media coverage selectively telling you what he said, what he meant, and the liberal lie/spin on his policy.

Look at how posters on here think the Ryan budget plan was "far right" throwing grandma off a cliff. When the FACT was that it simply froze spending at its current levels. NOT responsible enough.

If the average American who gets their "news" from nightly television started getting BOTH sides of the story.... there would be a great deal of enlightenment. I don't believe that over half of Americans are socialists, racists, and stupid.

I DO believe that over half of Americans are victim of a systematic ongoing propaganda campaign that is designed to keep us in the dark while the government politically connected class robs us blind.


More than anything else that is it. We are products of our environment and if your environment is steeped in the MSM bias you have a bias you are not even aware of. And I will admit it can go the other way too. When it was Katrina, all we got was reports of Bush's failure, but with Sandy it was how Obama road in to rescue. Didn't matter that people are still suffering. They're irrelevant. And the silence on the Benghazi disaster and coverup is deafening. Then there is the success of job creation as unemployment goes up.

Tyrants are well aware of how to condition the unthinking, the Soviets and Communist China have made it into an art form and our MSM has learned their lessons. It works. If it didn't we wouldn't have those things called commercials.

We can even see it here. The issue isn't student loans, it is the constantly increasing rise in the cost of an education that requires some to unthinkingly borrow their future. The MSM's propoganda works best on the naive young and the elderly with declining cognitive abilities. In just 13 months UT raised it's tuition over 20% so it can build newer facilities, a golf course, solar powered IPad charging stations, and above average pay raises for people who do nothing. I attended this past summer and went in to get my ID. There were 13 women sitting around, watching youtube videos while I was the only customer. They jumped at the chance to help me, to do something other than kill time. Five people to do one person's job. But cut costs? Never!! Just vote themselves more. They are unaccountable to noone, but the reported problem is the student loans needed to support their addiction to spending. And the unthinking fall for it.

But that is not how the media frames it, the increasing costs are irrelevant, it is the loans that pay for it that are the problem. Let's get the gubmint, (you and I), to cover it instead of requiring discipline in spending. And of course those foolish enough to borrow their future are going to be all for it.



Edited by citico_tim (11/09/12 05:10 AM)
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