#3007217 - 10/30/12 10:03 AM
Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Dbllunger
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My son shot and killed a deer Saturday morning on the juvenile hunt. I approached the deer, pulled out the temporary kill tag and properly marked it. I then pulled out my smartphone and checked his deer in online and pulled a blank pre printed permanent kill tag out of my backpack and filled it out with the necessary informantion. I then gutted and transported the deer to a processor.
I love how easy you guys at TWRA have made this process, thanks.
My question is: Is there any possiblilty of cutting out the filling in of the temp kill tag when you are checking in and filling out a permanent kill tag right there on the spot? If not, then why? I realize it is in the regulations now to do it that way so that is the simple answer, but why not change it? Just means less paper I have to carry with me in my pack and less paper I have to print at home before I hunt.
I know, this is minor and silly but I was wondering if this may be addressed in the future for all us tech savvy folks. Thanks.
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#3007249 - 10/30/12 10:20 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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My son shot and killed a deer Saturday morning on the juvenile hunt. I approached the deer, pulled out the temporary kill tag and properly marked it. I then pulled out my smartphone and checked his deer in online and pulled a blank pre printed permanent kill tag out of my backpack and filled it out with the necessary informantion. I then gutted and transported the deer to a processor.
I love how easy you guys at TWRA have made this process, thanks.
My question is: Is there any possiblilty of cutting out the filling in of the temp kill tag when you are checking in and filling out a permanent kill tag right there on the spot? If not, then why? I realize it is in the regulations now to do it that way so that is the simple answer, but why not change it? Just means less paper I have to carry with me in my pack and less paper I have to print at home before I hunt.
I know, this is minor and silly but I was wondering if this may be addressed in the future for all us tech savvy folks. Thanks.
It is already a done deal (or at least very close). We have been working for the last year on a smartphone app that will do away with the need for printed tags for those using such devices to check in. We have a product that is in the testing phase, and that will be ready to use during the SPRING TURKEY SEASON.
In 2013 we are going away from temporary and permanent harvest tags to a harvest log. In addition to the smart phone app that self-populates a log, hunters will be able to use the current check in methods of online and the physical checking stations.
We will be coming out with more information in the coming weeks to get folks ready for the transition. I think you will like the direction we are headed.
Edited by scn (10/30/12 07:02 PM)
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#3007256 - 10/30/12 10:26 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Dbllunger
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Wow! Now that sounds awesome. Thanks
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#3007258 - 10/30/12 10:26 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Great news!
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#3007259 - 10/30/12 10:27 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Sweet!!!!! Love the sound of that scn!! Glad op asked.
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#3007338 - 10/30/12 11:18 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Nice
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#3007343 - 10/30/12 11:24 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Just make it real simple........Go to TELECHECK!
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#3007348 - 10/30/12 11:29 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Just make it real simple........Go to TELECHECK!
No telecheck. The expense was too great. I actually like this app deal better.
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#3007386 - 10/30/12 11:57 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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If only I had cell service out here in the bonnies.................
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#3007399 - 10/30/12 12:04 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Sweet! This is going to rock.
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#3007410 - 10/30/12 12:10 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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waynesworld
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Soon we will scan the bar-code that will be printed on the deer
 that is great to work on continued improvement
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#3007839 - 10/30/12 05:03 PM
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I'll be getting one of thoes smartphnes friday. Maybe someone who was born in the age of crank phones can learn who to do that.
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#3007873 - 10/30/12 05:23 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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scn
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I'll be getting one of thoes smartphnes friday. Maybe someone who was born in the age of crank phones can learn who to do that.
Trust me, if I can learn to do it (rotary dial era for me) then anyone can do it. If you have a question, ask your kid or grandkid-they are intuitive with it.
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#3008346 - 10/30/12 09:55 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Can you add the migratory bird questions to the app as well?
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#3008412 - 10/30/12 10:49 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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scn
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Can you add the migratory bird questions to the app as well?
There are discussions on license purchases from the app, but I'm not sure how far along they are on that. If so, you may be able to do the migratory bird permit on it at some point.
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#3009156 - 10/31/12 11:47 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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REM7
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sounds good, cant wait for the new system
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#3009648 - 10/31/12 05:48 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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SCN,
Please tell me I read that right. I hope the TWRA isn't going to a "honor" system like Alabama. I just know I understood that right and my fear is wrong. 
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#3009764 - 10/31/12 07:46 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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scn
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SCN, Please tell me I read that right. I hope the TWRA isn't going to a "honor" system like Alabama. I just know I understood that right and my fear is wrong.
No, it won't be an honor system.
If harvest logs (including the electronic phone version) are not filled out before transporting and the confirmation numbers when checked aren't recorded, it will be a class B misdemeanor violation as it is now. What we have proposed probably doesn't make it any more difficult to "beat the system", but I don't think it will make it a lot easier, either. We know that there are holes in the system right now, but they have been there for several years since we made the decision to make it as easy as possible for hunters and allowing multiple animals to be checked in at one time, etc. Our biologists seem to be pretty comfortable with the data we are getting, so the emphasis has been to try to make it as easy for our hunters as we can within financial means.
We understand that traditional checking stations are convenient for many folks, and they enjoy their tradition of checking them in at that store. Thus, we are keeping the checking stations. We also know that it is a long round trip when gas is close to $4/gal for some hunters to get to a checking station, so we have tried to provide reasonable alternatives for them. I have a feeling in a very short time we will have more checked out with the smart phones than the others put together. I haven't tested it yet, but the format seems to flow well enough that even I could use it without wanting to throw the phone.
Edited by scn (10/31/12 07:47 PM)
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#3011932 - 11/01/12 11:21 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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This is awesome to hear this. You all have done a great job in making this happen. Being able to check deer in over my phone is nice but having to still go through the trouble of printing the tag is a lot of hassle. Can't wait to see the new system.
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#3012122 - 11/02/12 07:05 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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All of this sounds great!
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#3022269 - 11/07/12 09:19 PM
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Sounds good to me. Assuming if you take the deer to a processor there will be some # or something in the kill log they'll need?
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#3026202 - 11/10/12 10:02 AM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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plinker22
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Eagerly await the new system. Way to go TWRA.
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#3029462 - 11/12/12 12:45 PM
Re: Is this an issue that may be reviewed SCN?
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Thank you TWRA!
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