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#2996811 - 10/24/12 11:38 AM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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If your not shooting over 150 yds stay with a 300 gr. From what i read the 250 gr. Have been known to grenade at smokeless speeds at short distance. Where did you order your savage from was it off the net or from a store
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#2996819 - 10/24/12 11:45 AM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: S.vitreum]
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 Originally Posted By: S.vitreum
 Originally Posted By: Tenn.Guy
I am headed off to dougsmsg board just thought I could get some quick info here.

Best thing you can do. Guys here are nice. However, for the most part, they are readers/listeners not shooters - guys on Dougs are experts. Look for 2,300 fps and you are there.
Start:
Fed209, 43 SR4759, and a 250 sst in a black MMP sabot.
What you need extry:
torch clean kit, scale, powder vials, vent liners, 4759, F209primers, some pipe tape, and some 250 sst's.



lol

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#2996835 - 10/24/12 12:07 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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 Originally Posted By: Tenn.Guy

300gr xtp
Mmp hph-24 short (ordered)
Accurate arms or 4759 whichever i can find first

Primers CCI or federal? Not sure those make much of a difference.


Everything there should work. I'm glad you decided on the 300 gr XTP but also shoot those 5 250gr that come with your gun. There shouldn't be a tremendous difference at 100 yards but as has been said I'm not a professional shooter. I have shot all of these however.

The HPH-24's are slightly easier to load than the 12s. Some guns will shoot them and some won't. If you notice these are very easy to load I'd probably switch to HPH-12 or red crush rib. Smokeless likes pressure and a tight fitting sabot is almost a must. Things may work for you in warm weather but then your out hunting in 15 deg and you pull the trigger and pfffffttttttt. Not fun.

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#2996840 - 10/24/12 12:11 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Rockhound]
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
If your not shooting over 150 yds stay with a 300 gr. From what i read the 250 gr. Have been known to grenade at smokeless speeds at short distance.


Yup.
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#2996852 - 10/24/12 12:22 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Rubberduck270]
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
If your not shooting over 150 yds stay with a 300 gr. From what i read the 250 gr. Have been known to grenade at smokeless speeds at short distance.


Yup.


WHat do you mean grenade? Blow up in mid air, or blow the crap out of a whitetail?

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#2996865 - 10/24/12 12:33 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Tenn.Guy]
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 Originally Posted By: Tenn.Guy
 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
If your not shooting over 150 yds stay with a 300 gr. From what i read the 250 gr. Have been known to grenade at smokeless speeds at short distance.


Yup.


WHat do you mean grenade? Blow up in mid air, or blow the crap out of a whitetail?


Lol blow up with on contact with little to no penetration
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#2996894 - 10/24/12 12:54 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Rockhound]
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The 250gr XTP shoot really well but they are not capable of shooting through the shoulder of a deer at close range at the speeds we are pushing them. Makes a wound that looks like a softball on the hide but is a very shallow wound. I know it' happened to me twice. Since switching to 300s no more wounding deer. Keep in mind I'm not an "expert" .
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#2996906 - 10/24/12 12:57 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: tasaman]
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Oh, if you want more range just practice with the XTPs and shoot the Shockwave or SST bullets in the same weight. Your 100 yard impact shouldn't change but you will need to very this. You will get more range with less drop with the SW or SST.
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#2997040 - 10/24/12 02:13 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: tasaman]
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 Originally Posted By: tasaman
Oh, if you want more range just practice with the XTPs and shoot the Shockwave or SST bullets in the same weight. Your 100 yard impact shouldn't change but you will need to very this. You will get more range with less drop with the SW or SST.


I think theres about 1inch elevation difference in mine with sst being 1" higher than xtp, nothing thats going to matter at the ranges ill be shooting
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#2997050 - 10/24/12 02:20 PM Re: Just ordered a Savage! Need advice... [Re: Rockhound]
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great thanks guys. I appreciate the help even if you're not "experts" \:\)

I have got about everything ordered and hopefully it will all arrive within the next couple days.

Only need to pickup primers and powder.

What vials do you use for the powder? I was going to order them from LMClab that was suggested on some forum SUper cheap just didnt know if there was an option you could pick up at the store that works well?

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