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#3002912 - 10/28/12 07:06 AM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: BlackBelt]
BlountArrow
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 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
If you use the can call incorrectly you will run off every deer that can hear it.
Most people turn the call over and let it "blaaaaaah" until it quits. They dont realize they have just made whats called an 'alarm bleat' and have put every deer around on high alert for danger.
If you didnt know that, go to youtube and type in "the deer doctor"...which is a guy named peter fiduccia (or something like that) and watch his free video on the 5 different sounds deer make and what each means.


Primos should have included that little nugget of info on the packaging. Guess they just wanted me to buy it, realize it is more suited as a toy for my 3 year old, and then buy some other type of Primos Snake Oil.
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#3007734 - 10/30/12 03:59 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: BlountArrow]
FULLDRAWXX75
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I carry two different grunt tubes(different tones to them) at all times, and I save all my tarsal glands(buck & does) from every deer I take, they get bagged and labeled and frozen. I use them in different areas from which they were taken throughout the entire season. I will hang one off my pack and on stand.
I have had other deer come in to check out the stranger in their area when one is hanging on a tree branch.
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#3015302 - 11/04/12 12:42 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
Mike Belt
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Any time from now until the end of the season I won't be in the woods without a grunt call and in most cases, an estrous doe call hanging around my neck. I know there are those that have had good success with the can call but it's never worked for me and I prefer the tube calls. In a few instances I may play with scents but the calls are my go to main stay.
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#3083374 - 12/17/12 11:36 AM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: BlackBelt]
deerthug78
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i myself use the can call, primos buck roar, and a lohman 8 to 1 adjustable call throughtout the season and have had alot of deer come into my calling. the lohman is on doe bleat an during the call it changes octives an ive seen it myself an had others with me when it changes octives it just breaks them they gotta see that deer lol the lohman is the 1st deer call i ever got back when i was 16-17 an im 34 now. I've even used it calling bucks chasing does away from me some would stop in there tracks n look some would stop turn an come to me lol just my observations. but i also use tinks 69.
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#3280730 - 07/02/13 02:28 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: BlountArrow]
Hunter 257W
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 Originally Posted By: BlountArrow
 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
If you use the can call incorrectly you will run off every deer that can hear it.
Most people turn the call over and let it "blaaaaaah" until it quits. They dont realize they have just made whats called an 'alarm bleat' and have put every deer around on high alert for danger.
If you didnt know that, go to youtube and type in "the deer doctor"...which is a guy named peter fiduccia (or something like that) and watch his free video on the 5 different sounds deer make and what each means.


Primos should have included that little nugget of info on the packaging. Guess they just wanted me to buy it, realize it is more suited as a toy for my 3 year old, and then buy some other type of Primos Snake Oil.


By Golly, you are right BlountArrow. I did not know that and have been "blattting" full blast as long as the can would go. Thanks for the advice. Here's the video you must have been talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMGYuEdVmM&list=PLA34757D4C3D562FC

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#3280967 - 07/02/13 07:43 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: Hunter 257W]
BlountArrow
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Even more amazing is that bucks "immediately respond" according to the video. I always shook my bleat can a little to make it sound like a doe was getting hammered by a rival buck and REALLY enjoying it. That never worked either though. I guess anything works once in a while, just not for me; must be my technique.
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#3281600 - 07/03/13 01:20 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: BlountArrow]
pastorbmp
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I have never had any success with scents, though some hunters swear by them. But, I would never go to the woods without grunt call, can call and rattle horns/bag.
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#3282191 - 07/04/13 09:42 AM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: BlackBelt]
danny1975
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during rut I use a grunt call and had great success with it . But if he is on a doe, its not going to make any difference. and as for scents the only luck I had with them is I had a great day killing yotes.
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#3282669 - 07/04/13 08:59 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: danny1975]
Wes Parrish
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My opinion is the majority of deer hunters would kill more bucks if they used no scents whatsoever and no calls whatsoever. That's not to say that both scents and calls don't work sometimes. But I do believe most users are confusing happenstance with a false assumption of cause & effect. Yes, sometimes you grunt, and a buck comes running. But how many times does grunting spook a buck you didn't see, one which might have been coming towards you if you had been quite?

I've also had estrous doe urine bring in a buck. But more often, I've seen it spook a doe, which in turn spooked multiple bucks.

Probably the biggest problem is over-use, and use under the wrong circumstances and wrong times, not realizing the deer are pin-pointing your location, when they otherwise might never have been alerted to your presence.

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#3287559 - 07/10/13 01:40 PM Re: Call/Scent or nothing? [Re: Wes Parrish]
MattR
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
My opinion is the majority of deer hunters would kill more bucks if they used no scents whatsoever and no calls whatsoever. That's not to say that both scents and calls don't work sometimes. But I do believe most users are confusing happenstance with a false assumption of cause & effect. Yes, sometimes you grunt, and a buck comes running. But how many times does grunting spook a buck you didn't see, one which might have been coming towards you if you had been quite?

I've also had estrous doe urine bring in a buck. But more often, I've seen it spook a doe, which in turn spooked multiple bucks.

Probably the biggest problem is over-use, and use under the wrong circumstances and wrong times, not realizing the deer are pin-pointing your location, when they otherwise might never have been alerted to your presence.


I agree. I think alot of these products are sold as miracles and you are suppose to use them all the time and you will kill big mature bucks but that is simply not the case. People have been killing deer since before any of this stuff was out. They can be a great tool to have and use but only under the right circumstances. I have learned my lesson on using calls for sure.
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