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#2987140 - 10/18/12 08:02 AM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: gboucher]
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 Originally Posted By: gboucher
 Originally Posted By: BSK
I'm getting more jazzed about hunting, but I'm not seeing anything I'm really that interested in on trail-cam, which tends to mute my excitement. But I should continue to pick up new bucks on cam for the next month, so I can't let my hopes fall too far. I'm getting 3-5 new bucks on cam every week right now, just no old bucks yet.


i had three pretty decent southern tn bucks all through the summer and now they are gone. picked up new bucks but havent seen any as big as the ones i lost, so i feel your pain. seems the neighbors are enjoying the fruits of my labor.


Unfortunately, with all of the sudden improvements we've made on our family property, I believe we may have turned our property into a doe sink. Now I only have one year's data to suggest this (this year), but it does make biological sense. But the ramification of this problem is a lack of bucks using the property in the summer months (the property becomes dominated by does defending fawning territories, forcing bucks into surrounding poorer habitat). In this scenario, bucks must "filter back into" the property over the fall months. I'm definitely seeing that filtering in process, but to date, I don't have any mature bucks using the property, which is deeply troubling.

Now we still have the "rut range expanders and shifters" to yet move into the property (which usually occurs at the very end of October into the first 10 days of November), and on average, those bucks make up a full 33% of the bucks we have to hunt during MZ and the opening weeks of gun season, so I'm hoping a few mature bucks appear with that group.
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#2987289 - 10/18/12 09:30 AM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: BSK]
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I know very little about deer behavior. Bucks look for does during the rut because the does are in heat and will allow the bucks to breed them. That is my understanding and it seems genetic, instictual, or hormonal, not really rational...
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#2987339 - 10/18/12 10:18 AM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: Hit&Miss84]
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Interesting, BSK do you bowhunter?
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#2987445 - 10/18/12 11:35 AM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: BuckHunter511]
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No,he is not.BSK that is
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#2987631 - 10/18/12 01:43 PM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: BuckHunter511]
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 Originally Posted By: BuckHunter511
Interesting, BSK do you bowhunter?


I used to be almost exclusively a bow-hunter, but not anymore. Now I primarily MZ and gun hunt.
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#2987691 - 10/18/12 02:17 PM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: BSK]
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Oh I see, I bow hunt, but not anywhere near as hard as I do during muzzy and gun.
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#2987799 - 10/18/12 04:01 PM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: BuckHunter511]
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BuckHunter511,

I quit bow-hunting for a number of reasons:

1) I had to face the fact I wasn't very good at killing animals with an arrow; and...

2) because of that, I wasn't really enjoying it that much (I was primarily using it as an excuse to simply "be hunting" back when MZ/gun season were short); and...

3) we learned we were just pressuring the deer during bow season, reducing our success come the MZ and gun seasons. Since we stopped bow hunting, our success during MZ and gun seasons has gone way up; and...

4) I feel lethal with an MZ or gun in my hands. I enjoy that hunting much more. Although to be honest, from all the years of bow-hunting, I still set up my MZ/gun stands just like I'm bow hunting, and most of my MZ and gun kills are at bow distances. I rarely shoot a deer with a firearm beyond 50 yards, and most are 20-30 yard kills. I still like that "up close and personal" style of hunting that bow-hunting requires, but I like carrying a lethal weapon for my hands.

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#2990197 - 10/20/12 08:35 AM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: BSK]
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Guys, Whitetail deer are missing brain functions as BSK says. Otherwise, they would not get hit by cars. When they are pressured by man or beast they move and if not, they stay. Its why we can pattern them. Anthropomorphism is in play here. Lots of animals have behavior which we relate to our own and it just is more often incorrect than right.
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#2992207 - 10/21/12 08:09 PM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: DaveB]
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what about humans? they have brain functions and get hit by cars.
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#2993830 - 10/22/12 07:14 PM Re: greener on other side of fence, BSK [Re: gboucher]
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 Originally Posted By: gboucher
what about humans? they have brain functions and get hit by cars.


Yeah, but just as deer, some are missing the vital functions. \:D

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