#2988756 - 10/19/12 09:19 AM
Understand who you are voting for
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OHVATN
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Don't be snookered again. How do you really know who you are voting for in this presidential election, like all of ther others? Campaign rhetoric? Promises (from a politician?) The mainstream (corporate) media? Get real. It's money people. Always has been, always will be.
Who's giving the money and who's getting it?
Let's see the top 5 campaign contributors for the candidates this year:
Obama: (1) Univ of California; (2) Microsoft; (3) Google; (4) Harvard; (5) United States Government
Romney: (1) Goldman Sachs (interestingly, Goldman was Obama's #2 in 2008); (2) Bank of America; (3) JP Morgan; (4) Microsoft; (5) Credit Suisse
Now, please tell me where do the candidates' real allegiances lie? Us or them?
By comparison, let's look at the top 5 campaign contributors for that alleged radical weirdo isolationist candidate Ron Paul (really the liberty loving, sound money, dismantle the welfare/warfare state candidate): (1) United States Army; (2) United States Air Force; (3) United States Navy; (4) Google; (5) United States Department of Defense.
Quite a contrast don't you think. Unfortunately, we are again stuck with their choices of candidates, not ours.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contriball.php
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#2988775 - 10/19/12 09:28 AM
Re: Understand who you are voting for
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The U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy, and U.S. Department of Defense can contribute to the political campaigns of those running for office?
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#2988786 - 10/19/12 09:33 AM
Re: Understand who you are voting for
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OHVATN
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Yes. Our men and women in uniform have the same political (free) speech rights as we and corporations do.
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#2988797 - 10/19/12 09:39 AM
Re: Understand who you are voting for
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TennesseeRains
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Yes. Our men and women in uniform have the same political (free) speech rights as we and corporations do.
Men and women in uniform using their own money to contribute is one thing. Implying that the Dept. of Defense, et. al. are is quite another. Oh, they may have the same rights - but Obama is making every effort that they do not get to cast their votes.
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To be fair, we can now blame everything on everything else-Wildcat
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#2988819 - 10/19/12 09:54 AM
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Another Paul cult member out to help OBAMA as much as he can.
Ron Paul LOST and will RETIRE for good Dec 31, 2012.
Ron Paul has NO chance of winning one single state, not one.
Every PROTEST VOTE helps Obama.
For the last 9 months on the FAR LEFT web sites they have been telling their members to go out to the different web sites and spread the word to get people to vote for Ron Paul or write Ron Paul in to help Obama.
In 2008 between 10 and 17 MILLION Conservatives did NOT vote because it was between Obama and McCain. THIS is one thing Obama and his supporters are counting on, they are also counting on most of them to write in Ron Paul giving Obama the victory!!!!!
Romney was NOT my first pick but my NUMBER ONE disire is to get Obama out of the White House. Voting for Ron Paul will NOT do it.
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#2988901 - 10/19/12 10:43 AM
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The "Whens"...
When’s
WHEN I FINISHED READING THIS I GOT SHORT OF BREATH…. Looking back thru the past 4 years, many "Whens" pop up. Read them all to better understand where we are going as a country….
WHEN - he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan, Muramar Kaddafi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - it was pointed out that he was a total newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - his voting record in the Illinois Senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he refused to wear a flag lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he surrounded himself in the White House with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he said he favors sex education in kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - his personal background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco - a man of questionable character and who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home - people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he started appointing White House Czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist /Communists, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he stood before the Nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this Nation" into something else, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed cabinet members and several advisers who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory Czar who believes in "Explicit Consent," harvesting human organs without family consent and allowing animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual and organizer of a group called Gay, Lesbian, Straight, Education Network as Safe School Czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed Mark Lloyd as Diversity Czar who believes in curtailing free speech, taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth, who supports Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - Valerie Jarrett, an avowed Socialist, was selected as Obama's Senior White House Advisor, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director, said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed Carol Browner, a well known socialist as Global Warming Czar working on Cap and Trade as the nation's largest tax, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for Health and Human Services Secretary could not be confirmed because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - as President of the United States , he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - his actions concerning the Middle East seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our long time ally, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops early-on when the Field Commanders said they were necessary to win, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions, and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc., people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and 'stating' that he was raised a Muslim, was educated as a Muslim, and is still a Muslim, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.
WHEN - he finally completed his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people woke up--- but it was too late. Add these up one by one and you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama is determined to turn America into a Marxist-Socialist society. All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this do an Internet search. The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph.
Will it read as above or will it be a happier ending for most of America ?
Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. We all need to pull together or watch the demise of a free democratic society. Pray for Americans to seek the truth and take action for it will keep us FREE. Our biggest enemy is not China , Russia , North Korea or Iran . Our biggest enemy is a contingent of politicians in Washington , DC . The government will not help, so we need to do it ourselves.
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#2988917 - 10/19/12 10:50 AM
Re: Understand who you are voting for
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stick1
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Im surprised anyone would support Ron Paul, When Hell freezes 6ft thick RP will win the potus election.
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#2988932 - 10/19/12 10:58 AM
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BREAKING:
Wealthy companies give the more to Presidential candidates that those with less money!!!!!
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#2988935 - 10/19/12 11:01 AM
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OHVATN
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Yes. Our men and women in uniform have the same political (free) speech rights as we and corporations do. Men and women in uniform using their own money to contribute is one thing. Implying that the Dept. of Defense, et. al. are is quite another. Oh, they may have the same rights - but Obama is making every effort that they do not get to cast their votes.
Because of campaign contribution limits, the organizations do not contribute. These are contributions, "bundled" so to speak, by the employees or members of these organizations. In other words, it is not the United States Department of Defense that is/was RP's 5th largest campaign contributor. Rather, it was the DoD civilian employees and their immediate family members. Likewise, it was not the United States Army as an organization who was RP's 1st largest campaign contributor, rather it was the soldiers and their immediate family members.
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#2988950 - 10/19/12 11:12 AM
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Google has always been a LBERAL supporter and has given millions of dollars to the Democrat Party and Obama.
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