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#2988090 - 10/18/12 07:57 PM Looking for venison soaking ideas?
walker07
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I like to try new things with venison. Does anybody soak the meat before cooking it? Had a friend tell me that they always soak in milk for 24 hours to make the meat tender. Just looking to try something different. Thanks!
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#2988118 - 10/18/12 08:11 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: walker07]
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Mud Dauber
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Absolutely 0 reason to "soak" venison. That is merely a solution looking for a problem.
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#2988327 - 10/18/12 09:48 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: Poser]
KANATI McD
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I marinate mine for atleast 24 hours in allegra (original) . I cook em on the grill @ 450 for 3 minutes each side and let rest for 5 minutes. I process all my steaks 1" thick
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#2988346 - 10/18/12 10:04 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: KANATI McD]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: KANATI McD
I marinate mine for atleast 24 hours in allegra (original) . I cook em on the grill @ 450 for 3 minutes each side and let rest for 5 minutes. I process all my steaks 1" thick


I have to admit, I had no idea you could buy marinades until I just looked up Allegro. I looked at the ingredient list and it does indeed have all necessary components to marinade (many people's "marinades" actually are not marinades and therefore do not achieve the intent of any marinade), however, corn syrup sure caught my eye as a primary ingredient. What is it with the freakin' corn syrup? I also noticed that they used dried garlic -fresh garlic makes a world of difference especially in marinades.
Hydrolyzed soy protein? What in the world?
Food coloring? Give me a break.

I'll speculate that you could easily achieve any of these Allegro marinades with fresh ingredients, customized and for cheap. A combination of Fat, acid and salt is all you need to get started.
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#2988448 - 10/19/12 04:32 AM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: Poser]
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If you didnt know you could buy marinades dont knockem til you have tried them \:\) ,fresh made will normally be better but when you dont have time or as a last minute idea they work fine,the allegro spicey hot is really good,throw a bottle or 2 in the cabinet & try it some time
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#2988642 - 10/19/12 08:17 AM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: mike243]
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 Originally Posted By: mike243
If you didnt know you could buy marinades dont knockem til you have tried them \:\) ,fresh made will normally be better but when you dont have time or as a last minute idea they work fine,the allegro spicey hot is really good,throw a bottle or 2 in the cabinet & try it some time


I can't stand the state of corn syrup. It just has a real synthetic taste to it.
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#2988701 - 10/19/12 08:48 AM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: Poser]
jb3
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Back before I knew any better, I soaked in Alleg. Now I just like the taste of it with some good sides.
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#2989073 - 10/19/12 12:44 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: Poser]
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 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: KANATI McD
I marinate mine for atleast 24 hours in allegra (original) . I cook em on the grill @ 450 for 3 minutes each side and let rest for 5 minutes. I process all my steaks 1" thick


I have to admit, I had no idea you could buy marinades until I just looked up Allegro. I looked at the ingredient list and it does indeed have all necessary components to marinade (many people's "marinades" actually are not marinades and therefore do not achieve the intent of any marinade), however, corn syrup sure caught my eye as a primary ingredient. What is it with the freakin' corn syrup? I also noticed that they used dried garlic -fresh garlic makes a world of difference especially in marinades.
Hydrolyzed soy protein? What in the world?
Food coloring? Give me a break.

I'll speculate that you could easily achieve any of these Allegro marinades with fresh ingredients, customized and for cheap. A combination of Fat, acid and salt is all you need to get started.


"Hydrolyzed soy proteins" = synthetic soy sauce.
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#2989097 - 10/19/12 12:58 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: TAFKAP]
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
 Originally Posted By: Poser
 Originally Posted By: KANATI McD
I marinate mine for atleast 24 hours in allegra (original) . I cook em on the grill @ 450 for 3 minutes each side and let rest for 5 minutes. I process all my steaks 1" thick


I have to admit, I had no idea you could buy marinades until I just looked up Allegro. I looked at the ingredient list and it does indeed have all necessary components to marinade (many people's "marinades" actually are not marinades and therefore do not achieve the intent of any marinade), however, corn syrup sure caught my eye as a primary ingredient. What is it with the freakin' corn syrup? I also noticed that they used dried garlic -fresh garlic makes a world of difference especially in marinades.
Hydrolyzed soy protein? What in the world?
Food coloring? Give me a break.

I'll speculate that you could easily achieve any of these Allegro marinades with fresh ingredients, customized and for cheap. A combination of Fat, acid and salt is all you need to get started.


"Hydrolyzed soy proteins" = synthetic soy sauce.


The foundation of any good marinade..... Not!
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Keep your knife sharp and your skillet greasy.

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#2989223 - 10/19/12 02:03 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: Poser]
TAFKAP
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What is, soy sauce in general or just the fake soy sauce?
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#2989275 - 10/19/12 02:29 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: TAFKAP]
KANATI McD
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You tell it Betty Crocker. Dont get your panties in a wad. Just because I like it, doesnt mean you have to use it. Man asked for soaking solution, so I gave one. If my suggestion doesnt fit your petique aray of ingredients. Move on and suggest one. But dont just set there and keep bashing on another mans method.
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#2989372 - 10/19/12 03:32 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: KANATI McD]
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#2989391 - 10/19/12 03:41 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: StalkingWolf]
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I have recommended "Black Oaks" maridade before and I will again. The only place it is available is in Paris, TN or Dresden, TN where it is made. Lathams meat market in Jackson also carries it.
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#2989467 - 10/19/12 04:44 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: TAFKAP]
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Mud Dauber
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 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
What is, soy sauce in general or just the fake soy sauce?


Fake soy sauce.
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#2990393 - 10/20/12 12:20 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: KANATI McD]
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 Originally Posted By: KANATI McD
You tell it Betty Crocker. Dont get your panties in a wad. Just because I like it, doesnt mean you have to use it. Man asked for soaking solution, so I gave one. If my suggestion doesnt fit your petique aray of ingredients. Move on and suggest one. But dont just set there and keep bashing on another mans method.


Alright, I'll tell it to Betty Crocker and let her get her panties in a wad \:D
I wasn't bashing your method, though I did fail to make it to my point: Do you always marinade venison like that for every dish? My main point with the corn syrup and the fake soy is that you do realize that you are both adding synthetic and industrially processed ingredients to your venison when you use a commercial marinade like that? You may not care, you may even like, but I was primarily pointing it out because you may have never thought about it.

I have had marinaded venison before that other people have prepared, but, myself, I have never felt that venison, or most red meat, for that matter, needed to be marinated. Backstraps and tenderloins are tender enough to stand on their own. Roasts can be slow cooked, steaks can be slow cooked or tenderized, and most anything else (shanks etc) can be effectively braised.
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#2990768 - 10/20/12 05:59 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: Poser]
KANATI McD
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Not on everything. I dont marinate to tenderize. I do it for taste and I love the taste of allegro (original & hot/spicy) the hickory smoke flavor is aweful and will never use it on any cut.
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#2991087 - 10/20/12 09:46 PM Re: Looking for venison soaking ideas? [Re: KANATI McD]
TAFKAP
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McD, try making your own Allegro. I bet it'd come out much better.
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