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#2984351 - 10/16/12 01:40 PM these savages aint no joke!
Rockhound
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I went out this morning since getting all the stuff i bought from cecil. I started out with 300 gr. Ftx + harvester rcr, first shot was good left to right and about 5 in. High. Second shot was about an inch to the right. I adjusted 2-1/4 in lower and fired 2 shots both cutting the same hole. These were very difficult to load but if i do my part i think will produce 1" groups maybe a little better. I then fired 3 shots with said bullet and short black mmp sabot. Another 1" group!



The hole highest in elevation on the target is the 2 shot group the other is the short black mmp group



Im a little scared of the ftx though because i have read so many mixed reviews i have some 300 gr xtp and 300 gr. 458 hollw points ordered, but if the 458 is any harder to load than the 452 w/ rcr its probably out of the question. What do yall guys think about the ftx? I know its no comparison to a deer but i dug this out of the ground from behind my target


Keep in mind on the bullet 99.9% of my shots will be within 100 yds and probably 85% within 60-75 yards
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#2984353 - 10/16/12 01:41 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rockhound]
Rockhound
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Im shooting 43 gr. Imr sr4759
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#2984446 - 10/16/12 02:52 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rockhound]
cecil30-30
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Glad your savage shoots good for you. Was this at 100yds? Im convinced my factory savage barrel was way overbore.I couldn't never get a sabot/bullet combo to give me a tight fit.It was always medium loading pressure no matter what I pushed down it.
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#2984618 - 10/16/12 04:40 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: cecil30-30]
fullstream
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try some barnes 300gn mz EXP's. I've shot them the last 4 years and they group amazing and flat out drop em.
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#2985082 - 10/16/12 08:39 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: cecil30-30]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Glad your savage shoots good for you. Was this at 100yds? Im convinced my factory savage barrel was way overbore.I couldn't never get a sabot/bullet combo to give me a tight fit.It was always medium loading pressure no matter what I pushed down it.


Yep 100 yds
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#2985286 - 10/16/12 09:40 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rockhound]
Boone 58
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Sweet!!!! \:\)
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#2985296 - 10/16/12 09:44 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rockhound]
1 good shot
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i found that keeping the sabots in my shirt pocket where my body heat keeps them warm makes them a whole lot easier to load
and cecil are you using the high pressure sabots? you can't use just any in the savage

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#2985305 - 10/16/12 09:47 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: 1 good shot]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: 1 good shot
i found that keeping the sabots in my shirt pocket where my body heat keeps them warm makes them a whole lot easier to load
and cecil are you using the high pressure sabots? you can't use just any in the savage


Lol Cecil tried everything, i know this becuse i bought all of his stuff and he ordered a pacnor barrel
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#2985314 - 10/16/12 09:51 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: 1 good shot]
ratsnakeboogy
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 Originally Posted By: 1 good shot
i found that keeping the sabots in my shirt pocket where my body heat keeps them warm makes them a whole lot easier to load
and cecil are you using the high pressure sabots? you can't use just any in the savage


Cecil has tried most everything, I think he has one of those barrels that just don't like anything you feed it.

The Pacnor .45 will solve that.

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#2985828 - 10/17/12 10:25 AM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rockhound]
cecil30-30
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 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: 1 good shot
i found that keeping the sabots in my shirt pocket where my body heat keeps them warm makes them a whole lot easier to load
and cecil are you using the high pressure sabots? you can't use just any in the savage


Lol Cecil tried everything, i know this becuse i bought all of his stuff and he ordered a pacnor barrel
Rockhound's right,I tried a little bit of everything in mine.I should have sent it back to savage,but I just ordered a pacnor..Should have it mid next week.
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#2985846 - 10/17/12 10:43 AM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: cecil30-30]
Rubberduck270
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Rockhound's right,I tried a little bit of everything in mine.I should have sent it back to savage,but I just ordered a pacnor..Should have it mid next week.


You having Luke or someone do the install or you doing it yourself?
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#2985849 - 10/17/12 10:52 AM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rubberduck270]
barkscraper
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My 50 savage shot ok till i went to 10gr n110 with 50gr 4198 with sst 200 gr and now its great but not as good as my 45 pac-nor on a prohunter frame in all my shooting its my best rifle ONCE YOU GO SMOKELESS YOU WILL NEVER GO BACK . Wish i could have helped you i had a little problem with mine at first till i found what it liked
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#2985885 - 10/17/12 11:28 AM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: cecil30-30]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
 Originally Posted By: Rockhound
 Originally Posted By: 1 good shot
i found that keeping the sabots in my shirt pocket where my body heat keeps them warm makes them a whole lot easier to load
and cecil are you using the high pressure sabots? you can't use just any in the savage


Lol Cecil tried everything, i know this becuse i bought all of his stuff and he ordered a pacnor barrel
Rockhound's right,I tried a little bit of everything in mine.I should have sent it back to savage,but I just ordered a pacnor..Should have it mid next week.


I was wandering when you would get it back
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#2985918 - 10/17/12 11:51 AM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rubberduck270]
cecil30-30
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Rockhound's right,I tried a little bit of everything in mine.I should have sent it back to savage,but I just ordered a pacnor..Should have it mid next week.


You having Luke or someone do the install or you doing it yourself?
Tar12 is doing it for me free of charge.He's been a great help and saved me I don't know how much money by letting me try different combos of bullets and sabots.And never charged me a penny.
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#2986126 - 10/17/12 02:21 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: cecil30-30]
Rubberduck270
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Tar12 is doing it for me free of charge.He's been a great help and saved me I don't know how much money by letting me try different combos of bullets and sabots.And never charged me a penny.


You gonna have him bed it or anything else? I bought a used SS Laminate Savage last night and I'm contemplating going for a Pac-Nor.
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#2986986 - 10/17/12 11:44 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rubberduck270]
holstonangler
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you may want to try the orange mmps, if you plan on shooting the .458 ftx's from a stock savage. They shoot great and have been death on deer so far.
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#2987001 - 10/18/12 02:04 AM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: Rubberduck270]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: Rubberduck270
 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Tar12 is doing it for me free of charge.He's been a great help and saved me I don't know how much money by letting me try different combos of bullets and sabots.And never charged me a penny.


You gonna have him bed it or anything else? I bought a used SS Laminate Savage last night and I'm contemplating going for a Pac-Nor.


If it shoots good as is i would leave it alone
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#2989049 - 10/19/12 12:30 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: cecil30-30]
tasaman
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Aww come on you can get better than that. Only 1 inch groups? You should probably sell that gun. I know a guy that wants a project gun. haha
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#2989622 - 10/19/12 07:10 PM Re: these savages aint no joke! [Re: tasaman]
Rockhound
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 Originally Posted By: tasaman
Aww come on you can get better than that. Only 1 inch groups? You should probably sell that gun. I know a guy that wants a project gun. haha


Thats just the first group \:\)
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