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#2771509 - 02/29/12 05:17 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Monty]
Monty
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How about this abstract from a current CDC publication -

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Chronic wasting disease (CWD) is a fatal, transmissible prion disease that affects captive and free-ranging deer, elk, and moose. Although the zoonotic potential of CWD is considered low, identification of multiple CWD strains and the potential for agent evolution upon serial passage hinders a definitive conclusion. Surveillance for CWD in free-ranging populations has documented a continual geographic spread of the disease throughout North America. CWD prions are shed from clinically and preclinically affected hosts, and CWD transmission is mediated at least in part by the environment, perhaps by soil. Much remains unknown, including the sites and mechanisms of prion uptake in the naive host. There are no therapeutics or effective eradication measures for CWD-endemic populations. Continued surveillance and research of CWD and its effects on cervid ecosystems is vital for controlling the long-term consequences of this emerging disease.
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#2771648 - 02/29/12 07:36 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: ballfan]
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 Originally Posted By: ballfan
Beekeeper: You stated, Until there is a live animal test that is 99% + accurate the danger from CWD is a very real issue.

A dot blot ELISA test for CWD, developed by VMRD, Inc., was licensed for CWD testing.

United States Department of Agriculture licensed a CWD dot plot (ELISA) test developed by VMRD, Inc. The test analyzes retropharyngeal lymph node samples and has a turnaround time of approximately 24 hours.

What info I can find on this test doesn't state that it is 99%+ accurate. The cost I found looks to be about $500. per test. Most of the info is from 2003 and this causes me to wonder, if this test is so good why doesn't it have more recent info?

 Originally Posted By: ballfan


Did the Elk released test 99% free?

You didnít answer my question about the percent of Elk vs Deer. What percent Elk have tested positive vs deer. How many Deer farms exists vs Elk farms?

Thatís my point! As a whole, the threat that Elk carrying the disease vs Deer having or carrying it far exceeds that of Deer. Yet the TWRA found Elk suitable or up to their standards. Quote: All elk brought into Tennessee for release go through strict disease testing prior to release. This testing is much more thorough than that required for bringing captive elk into Tennessee. Also, the elk brought into Tennessee will come from areas where health surveillance has been ongoing for several years with no history of significant disease. All of these precautions will greatly minimize the risk of any diseases being introduced into the state.




At the time the elk were being brought into TN the full dangers of CWD were not understood. As the dangers of CWD became more apparent the importation of elk was stopped.

One more question for you. Would the folks that want to deer farm be willing to be responsible for all cost associated with CWD testing and the cost of the measures needed to control it if it were to, in spite of all efforts to prevent it, appear in TN? Since we do not have it in our state now the only way it could get here would be from the imported animals used in Deer Farming.
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#2823742 - 05/07/12 09:34 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Beekeeper]
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Bee Keeper and Diehard Hunter, thank you guys for working so dilligently on this. At a meet n greet it was a pleasure to talk to you guys.
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#2840709 - 05/30/12 10:23 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Cold Creek Mafia]
BowGirl
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Good deal
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#2871676 - 07/10/12 10:55 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: JCDEERMAN]
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Sounds really Great!
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#2910093 - 08/16/12 03:25 PM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: monique06]
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From what I've observed, farming wild animals isn't good and I'd be against any attempt at doing it.
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#2951295 - 09/21/12 07:56 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: nodog]
Yeppers
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I'm agin it...
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#2978552 - 10/12/12 09:24 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Yeppers]
Doskil
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"Since we do not have it in our state now the only way it could get here would be from the imported animals used in Deer Farming."

How did it show up then in wild deer in West Virginia miles from any other CWD case?

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#2980510 - 10/14/12 02:47 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: Doskil]
youngandfree
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We already farm bees, rabbits, turkey, dove, quail, pheasant, buffalo and other animals for human use, whether it be for pets, meat, or hobby. Why not deer?
I believe this is a private property rights issue. If I want to fence my land and toy with raising deer, or whatever, I should be allowed to do it.
EHD has killed huge numbers in our state. Why are we so worried about CWD and the minimal numbers it has affected over the years, but seem to accept EHD as a normal occurrence?
I cant seem to follow the TWRA train of thought on this. We have Wild Hogs expanding all over this state even faster since they made it difficult for landowners and those who hunt them , which they claim in their hunting guide isn't even safe to eat because of all the disease they have and spread (let me quit laughing at that theory, knowing full well MANY states out west actually allow wild boar that are caught to be sold to MAIN STREAM PORK PRODUCERS that sell COMMERCIALLY) yet they wont allow them to be hunted effectively here and have actually helped them expand and become more prolific.
Yet they want to stop a private landowner from fencing his land and raising deer based on the THEORY that a single disease might possibly be spread? I am still scratching my head.
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#2980511 - 10/14/12 02:49 AM Re: deer farming vote postponed [Re: youngandfree]
youngandfree
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CWD is akin to the big bird and swine flu scare. It made a lot of scientists rich, and sent a lot of Federal $$ to colleges and research institutions all over the country.

Create a crisis, and milk it for all it is worth.
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